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  1. Ok - call me crazy, weird, mad, bored, out of focus, trend follower - what ever you like. I have it. Sorry - only iPhone photos. Unpacking and first impressions: Beauty - compared to many others. Impractical - compared to state of the art in handling. Unique - compared to many nowadays bubble-swirly-something bokeh cameras. Unexpected - in its characteristics and rendering. The beauty - I like it’s look on a silver M. Yes - it’s impractical. Turning the aperture ring means turning the focus ring too. Too much rotation for focussing. Hood fixing - OMG. Removing lens cap means removing hood unintentionally. So it gives an idea what photography meant in 30’s…. However - I accept it. It’s an impractical beauty. And the first guy I showed it said: „Wow - a real historical camera an looking brand new!“ Unique - as far as I can see after just a few shots in the city. I have a Petzval 58 and a Meyer Görlitz Trioplan 100mm. I’m going to sell them now to make my Thambar a little bit cheaper to me. Because it’s far beyond these lenses. All these "swirly-bokeh-pieces" are nothing against the bokeh and the glow of this lens. Unexpected - in street lights at night wide open IMO shows an ugly and a beautiful side: With center spot filter ugly rings or donuts. Without interesting glow around lights and nice or at least acceptable bokeh-bubbles out of focus. Yes - it is sharp - even wide open - eh - somehow. Kind of „soft sharp“. Low micro contrast but letters can be read - in center. To me it's really amazing. And as mentioned - glow everywhere where a bit of light comes across. In short: This lens is crazy. And I seem to become Thambar-crazy. Unfortunately the subject which this lens is made for - portrait and nature - I can't take before later this month. Of course I’ll show some examples here then. For the moment I have just a few shots made on my way from my friendly dealer - and just to see the effects of rendering. After all this partly boring examples in the web I hardly dare to add some others. OK - I do.
  2. Hi all, Saw that there was no own sharepoint/topic for this lens so I thought to start one. I am about to acquire one and I would like to know your story and insights about this lens. Mostly to be used with my M6. One thing I am curious about, is all models made from 1990 to 2007 the same in terms of optics? I read something about the later versions being better. Some more info about the lens can be found here: https://wiki.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/90mm_f/2.8_Elmarit-M
  3. Hi everyone, I’m about to buy as second lens Elmarit M 90mm. I’d like to know about your user experience with this lens and of course to see some pictures if it is possible. What do you like to shoot using this lens?
  4. saw this Very chubby Canadian Silver Summicron LTM today..quite heavy too
  5. Nach dem Auspacken meines Weihnachtsgeschenkes: das brandneue Voigtländer APO-Skopar 90 mm.
  6. Hi all, a while ago I've bought a used Elmarit-M 90mm (latest version) for which I found a few days ago by accident that the aperture blades do not fully disappear when the lens is used wide open. Consequently, the bokeh balls aren't circular, but have a more "saw blade"-like shape. If I turn the aperture ring beyond 2.8, which is possible by a tiny bit, the blades retract a bit more, but never completely (cp. attached images). As I wasn't sure whether this is by design or a defect, I have contacted Leica Support and they tell me that this is the normal behaviour, but offer a CLA for the lens nonetheless. Could any other owner please check with his or her lens? Thanks in advance, Rolf
  7. Hey everyone, I wanted to create a bit of a fun competition. Given the scary times we are all living in, Halloween this year will be spent in our homes and probably there wont be any trick or treaters. That is why its a perfect opportunity to share your “scariest” shots. These can be shots of scary subjects, scary edits or simply creepy shots you have taken. Rules: Must be taken with 28-35-50-75-90mm lens One post per person (if you are going to post a second one please specify on the second post that it is indeed a second post) All type of photography is allowed Winners will be picked by the amount of likes on individual posts (I’m open to suggestions If you have any) Good competition to everyone cant wait to see your best shots.
  8. hi all! I have 35 and 75, both lux. but some times I would like to get picture quality as at my 35 lux. 75 bit different. looking at 90/2.8, 90/2, 90/2AA... I shoot landscapes, portraits. not sure but maybe 180/2.8 or 180/2.8 APO as I also wanted something longer than short tele. use these at typ 240 and Sony a7II. any ideas?
  9. Hallo Zusammen, ich hoffe, meine Frage ist nicht schon zum Xten mal behandelt worden, aber ich bin bei meiner Suche nach einem 90iger als Laie und Anfänger etwas durcheinander geraten. Ich besitze seit letztem Jahr eine Leica M9 mit einem Summicron 35mm und einem Summicron 50mm beide aus Canada und für meine Begriffe bekomme ich da schon schöne Fotos hin. Jetzt habe ich im Urlaub in Monschau zuweilen eine etwas längere Brennweit vermisst, da ich z.B. an Gebäuden, alten Häusern manchmal kleine Verzierungen gefunden habe, die ich mit dem 50iger nur schwer abbilden konnte. Auch Fotos von den streunenden Straßenkatzen waren problematisch, das sie mich nur auf gewisse Distanz heranließen. Also etwas mehr Brennweite wäre nicht schlecht, wie so oft ist da Budget überschaubar (+-600€) Jetzt find ich in der Bucht oder bei einschlägigen Shops gebrauchte Linsen zu akzeptablen Preisen, die hier im Forum vermittelten Informationen verwirren mich aber eher ein wenig. Was wäre denn passend für die M9, für Aufnahmen draußen bei gutem Wetter mit ausreichender Schärfe? Gefunden habe ich das Tele Elmarit, das Elmar, das Summicron oder auch ein Rokkor. Hat Jemand einen Tip für mich? Da ich hier in der Provinz ( was Leica-Shops angeht) eher auf die Online-Möglichkeiten angewiesen bin, kann ich natürlich kaum probieren. Und übrigens, das Gewicht spielt nur eine Nebenrolle, komme von der Nikon D200 mit großem Gepäck, bin da also abgehärtet. Für Infos jeder Art bin ich dankbar. Gruß Heiner
  10. Hallo, tja, manchmal kommt es anders als man denkt. Nach Recherche, Bilder schauen etc. pp - ihr kennt das alle - bin ich heute nach der Arbeit losgezogen um entweder ein neues oder gebrauchtes 50er Summicron zu kaufen. Also verschiedene gebrauchte ausprobiert. Hmm, die einen wackeln, die anderen sind nicht 100% scharf. Bis auf ein silbernes gebrauchtes für rund 1800 Euro, alles nix wirklich tolles. Dann kann ich auch gleich ein Neues nehmen. Naja, dann aber immer noch ein wenig rumgeschaut und ein sehr schönes, hervorgend gehaltenes 2.8er 90er Elmarit gesehen - zefix, Fokus leicht und perfekt, bei Offenblende sehr, sehr scharf und prinzipiell ja nicht viel größer als mein 1.4 35 Zeiss (ein Traumoptik übrigens). Preis war auch sehr gut, also mitgenommen. Aber eigentlich wollte ich doch ein Summicron - da der Sauter die Leicapreisanpassung noch nicht gemacht hat, ab zum Sauter - das Leben ist nunmal manchmal teuer ... beim Sauter, dann aber doch noch das Zeiss Planar angesehen. Hmm, auch sehr schnuckig. Klein, leicht, sehr gut verarbeitet und statt 2040, halt nur etwas über 700 Euro. Also hin und her verglichen, Laptop aus dem Auto geholt und ... ich konnte keinen wirklichen Unterschied bei der Optik feststellen - und ich wollte wirklich einen sehen. Ach ne, eigentlich sollte doch das 50er ein Leica werden ... am Ende hat dann doch die Vernunft gesiegt und ich habe mich für das Planar entschieden. Sollte es mich irgendwann mal jucken, kann ich immer noch wechseln. Am Ende habe ich noch einen schönen Paketpreis bekommen und die Zeiss-Geli für das 50er und 35er auch noch dazugenommen. Und so kommts manchmal anders als man meint ... Das das Planar sehr gut ist, wusste ich schon, wirklich überrascht hat mich aber das alte 90mm 2.8er Elmarit (mit Ausziehblende) - das Ding ist eine Hammeroptik und extrem easy zu fokusieren. Wer nicht zwingend das Summicron braucht, kann hier bedenkenlos zuschlagen. Für Leicaverhältnisse ein echtes Schnäppchen. Anbei natürlich noch ein paar Bildchen die auf dem Heimweg und Zuhause mit den beiden Optiken entstanden sind, nichts weltbewegendes, aber halt die ersten ... Gruß Daniel
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    Carmen

    M240 + 90 Summicron-M
  12. Ooh, don't be so aloof - gimme a kiss - look, I even brought you some carrots! R5, 90mm Elmarit-R, Neopan 400.
  13. Moin ! Ich mag ja "Shortstories in Bildern", vielleicht durch einen kleinen Text ergänzt..... manchmal ergänzt ein weiteres Bild jedoch auch. Also heute 2 Bilder #1
  14. As quite new Leica user I have the M9 with my 50mm Summicron f/2 and my newest purchase 21mm Elmarit from 1991. Now it is time for a 90mm. Which one should I buy? Used is also fine for me.
  15. A less than ideal for a trip up the Shard. M9, Elmarit-M 90mm, SEfexPro2.
  16. Film arrived from Amazon. M3 arrived from eBay. Looks clean and great. Collapsible vintage 90 arrived. I mount it on the camera. Extend it. Aperture clicks smoothly. But focus is stuck. I know that this lens locks focus until lit is extended and twisted clockwise. I've done that. And tried pressing the button on the lens, bout that seems only to permit it to collapse. Am I missing a key step or did I get suckered on eBay? I'm guessing its user error but can't find anything on Ken Rockwell or here to suggest what that might be. Thanks in advance!
  17. Dear Leica community, relatively new to the Leica M world I am thinking about adding a 90mm to my yet small set of glass (50mm Summarit, 35mm Summicron Asph.), especially to take on a 3 months South America trip. I use an M9-P (and a D-Lux 5 as back-up). I read a lot in this forum, blogs, Ken Rockwell/Steve Huff (I know!) etc and my thoughts are as follows: (1) Tele Elmarit (thin) is the smallest and lightest and, therefore, prone to serve as a travel companion. (2) Tele Elmarit is (i) wide open a little bit inferior in terms of optics and (ii) stopped down to f4 equal to the Elmarit M and Summicron but as a relative beginner I will hardly ever notice the difference. (That said, I must say I did see a big difference between a Summaron 35mm/f2.8 and my Summicron 35mm/f2 asph, for whatever that's worth.) (3) The price for a Tele Elmarit in a good condition ranges between EUR 700-1000. My impression is that the price as gone up since 2009. (4) Most reviews say the Elmarit M is better than the Summicron and much smaller and lighter and if the f2.0 isn't absolutely necessary the Elmarit is the better option. We see similar used prices for both. I am not 100% sure how I would use the 90mm but my plan is to not only use it for portraits but also for landscape and street photography (why not). Now, my questions are: (1) Are my thoughts correct? (2) What would you recommend? (3) I have an offer for a Summicron M in good condition and an Elmarit-M (haven't held it in hands but allegedly good condition as well) both for EUR 850. Reasonable? Many thanks. Greetings from Munich Daniel
  18. Can someone tell me if this is truly a triplet? From what I know the knurled focus ring and 39mm thread suggest this is of Walter Mandler designed triplet. It is also bayonet mount But all Serial number lists suggest its made in 1962: 1 913 001-1 967 100: 1962 According to Erwin Puts it is made in 1964: 4/90mm, Elmar , 3-element lens, 1964. This lens is a Canadian design and with only three single elements, a case-study of optical simplicity. Its full aperture performance is better than that of the predecessor with the classical 3 group/4 element construction. Overall contrast is a bit higher, the definition of fine detail has improved edge contrast and especially the performance in the field is much better. Vignetting is .7 stops. At 1:4 the contrast gets visibly higher and now very fine detail is recorded over the whole image area with good clarity. The Elmarit 1:2.8/90mm at 1: 4 cannot equal the 3-element Elmar here. Stopping down further brings in finer detail and at 1:11 we find image quality of a thoroughly modern level. This lens has been introduced at the same time as the Tele-Elmarit 1:2.8/90mm, which replaced the Elmarit 1:2.8/90mm. As the Tele-Elmarit could not be used with the bellows attachment and had not the best performance at closer distances, Leitz offered the Elmar as a lens for these applications. Close up performance is quite good. Distortion is negligible. It does show the intriguing strategy of fine tuning the lens performance for a specified set of tasks. It was not possible in those days to create one general purpose lens and so Leitz optimised the designs in different directions. A luxury that could not be extended indefinitely as it was a costly strategy. With modern glasses, this lens would deliver a very interesting performance. Any insight would be appreciated? I hope I am not violating any rules by quoting Puts? If it truly is, What is the value of this lens in decent condition, not mint but pretty nice? Thanks in advance.
  19. This is a long exposure 90 sec... made looking down on a small pier by the San Juan Gate. Many thanks for looking and for your comments.
  20. While on a walk about I came upon a tree in San Juan which had about 10 of these fellows on it. This caterpillar is the larval stage of a pretty large but undistinguished moth. The caterpillar however is amazing... this one was about 6 inches long... they look very fierce but apparently only filled with toxin to taste poorly to birds. They had stripped the tree bare. Thanks for looking.
  21. hi Leica folks, I'm after my third M-mount lens. I have the newest version of the 50 'cron & the hexanon 50 f2 -- both are wonderful. I'm looking to buy either a hex 90 f2.8, or a 90 cron pre asph ($500 - $700 range). my question is: does the bokeh on the 90 cron clear up by 2.8? In my experience no lens gives good bokeh wide open -- and trolling flickr reveals -- of course -- some pretty ugly bokeh with this lens wide open. what interests me is how many stops down a lens requires before the bokeh clears up. my 50 1.4 nikkor (f mount) needs to be set two stops down to 2.8 before it becomes usable. on the other hand, my nikkor 85 1.8 is good by 2.8 (1 & a halfish stops), and my M-mount f2 50s clear up after one stop at 2.8 as well. yeah, so is the 90 cron usable by 2.8? if not, I'll probably just go with the 90 hex, because I'm sure it's fine by f4. (I hope I'm wrong, but I suspect that generally lenses with huge amounts of glass require more stopping down then lenses that are built more comfortably within physical limits). similarly, if you've had experience with many of these lenses, is the nikkor f mount 85 1.4 ais usable by f2, or does it need to be stopped down to 2.8? Cheers, Raphe
  22. Had a shoot yesterday with the fellow who runs "TeeCycle"--a website that sells used t-shirts online ( http://teecycle.org ). Had a real hoot--photographed 66 shirts on 13 different friends in less than 90 minutes! More photos at Midwest Editorial Photo: Troy Freund R8/DMR and a 1970s 50mm 'Cron and 90mm Elmarit. Troy
  23. A few friends of mine and I went photographing together at a local track meet. Quite a challenge to shoot with a manual-focus SLR. All the same, I got some results I was quite happy with. Leica R8/DMR + 90mm lens (circa 1968) and 180mm lens (circa 1984). More photos at Midwest Editorial Photo: Troy Freund
  24. Some friends and I met out to try our hands at photographing indoor soccer--wowza--that was tough. Still though, I managed to get a few images I was happy with. More photos at: for the fun of it-indoor soccer Midwest Editorial Photo: Troy Freund Troy
  25. Hallo zusammen, im Leica-Taschenbuch von Laney/Puts* wird bei der Beschreibung des Tele-Elmarit M 2,8/90mm , 2. Version erwähnt, dass das Objektiv für einen Extender vorbereitet sei, der zur Brennweitenverlängerung auf 135mm dient. Wurde so ein Teil jemals hergestellt? Grüße, Jo *2003?, S. 155 , 7. Auflage
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