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  1. This awesome 21mm lens with f/1.4 f-stop totally deserves its own thread. The popularity of fast wide M lenses among Leica photographers seems to drop as soon as one drifts away from the optical viewfinder lines of the eternal 28mm / 35mm / 50mm trinity. Leica even went as far as to discontinue its entire 24mm M line of lenses at some point in 2020, including the precious Summilux 24. Yet for reportage, conventions, events, concerts, wedding receptions and people photography, a fast wide angle is usually priceless. What the Summilux 21 f/1.4 offers over other slower (f/1.8 to f/3.4) lenses from the 21mm scuderia (there are not many for the M, although Voigtlander and TTArtisan offer direct competition with same or very similar f-stop) is the incredible separation of the subject from the background, an amazing feature for a wide angle lens. The 21 lux is of course a Karbe masterpiece, Erwin Puts even said in one of his articles that "If you compare the 1.4/21 with the 0.95/50mm you see comparable quality." Please post your images and share your experience with the 21 lux - everything from series VIII/8 filters and other adapted filter solutions to your experience with this light beast in the field and on assignments, preferrably wide open. This is NOT a SEM thread, but a comparison between the two is OK.
  2. We already have a very extensive 'Mandler Magic' topic, but as much I am keen on Mandler's signature look and his contribution to the "Leica glow", there is another very distinguished gentleman in the 'House of Leica' that as a leader of Leica's optical design team since 2002 gave us a bunch of new high performance M-Lenses and pushed the terms FLE, ASPH and APO towards modern Leica perfection. He was the guy that had the balls to say Dr. Mandler's 75mm Summilux 1.4 was his *least* favorite design and went on to "Make Summilux great again" - all the way down to 21mm. Show us some of the "clinical look" of the Peter Karbe magic and do tell what lens he designed is your favorite...
  3. Just want to share my experience within the last couple of years of buying brand new leica lenses, and the poor workmanship that came with them. I bought my lenses from a few different online / local Leica dealers, I won't mention their names because I don't know if they want to be mentioned or not, but the service they've provided were exceptional. Anyway, here it goes. In late 2020, I decided to purchase a brand new copy of the mighty 28mm Summilux ASPH, and it was such an incredible lens to shoot with. But what I also noticed is a paint chip on the lens. It was not acceptable for a new product to have such defect, let alone an $8000 lens. So I exchanged it for another, only to find a different issue on the lens, coating scartches. I tried to convince myself to live with it because the store doesn't have so many of these expensive lenses in stock, I had to wait a long time for the second one. But after sleeping on the issue, I couldn't justify spending that amount of money on a brand new lens that came with coating scratches, I took it back to the store. And the sales person was apologetic and promptly ordered another in for me. And I settled with the last one because it had no coating scratch, but it focuses past infinity lol(the other ones didn't have this issue), I didn't care about that because I mainly use it for close to mid distance, I considered myself lucky by then. Soon after that I bought another 35mm Summilux ASPH FLE(I had one before but sold it, and soon regretted my decision), there's a big piece of dust in the middle of the lens, and again with some coating scratches. But this was a more popular lens, so it wasn't too difficult to find a "decent" copy without scratches, I only exchanged once. At this point, I really started to believe getting a decent copy of Leica lens is not an easy task, and I wanted to give up on the brand all together. So I started buying like new used copies on Ebay, and I got the 35mm Summicron asph I, no coating scratch, no dings, spot on focus at infinity. Produced in 2015. A few days ago I decided to purchase a brand new 50mm Summilux ASPH, and upon opening the box, I knew that the situation is not getting any better, smears, smudges, and what seems like the familiar coating scratches(could be smears, didn't try to clean them) on both front and rear element. Returned, and got lens That's all I wanted to share here, and my goal is not to bash Leica or promote some kind of hate, and I genuinely hope that I had the worst luck, and got all these lemons. Because I love Leica M cameras and lenses, they are exceptionally designed, optically and mechanically. However, it has appeared to me that the execution of lens assembly at Leica is really careless to say the least. And I've never had any of these issues with my Voigtlander lenses, which often cost way less than its Leica counterpart. If anyone had a similar experience as I had, please share it, I want to hear your story and hopefully it could bring to Leica's attention.
  4. Most of us seem to be photographers as well as collectors. Show me your favorite lenses, old and new alike. I like the Noctilux range for the extreme apertures, but I prefer the Summilux range for the best speed:size/weight ratio. Here’s a Summilux gathering of 21, 24, 28, 35, 50 and 75mm. All in black.
  5. I just got my black chrome 50mm Summilux ASPH (11688). As a number of people who have received their lens have pointed out in this thread http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/242441-new-35-cron-and-50-lux-available-in-black-chrome/, the hood won't fit over numerous E43 filters people have tried. I tried with my Carl Zeiss E43 UVa filter, which attaches to the lens just fine, and in this case the hood also won't fit. I thought I would illustrate the problem for two reasons: 1. As a warning, should this affect any purchase decisions. It would seem a normal E43 filter and the supplied hood cannot be used at the same time. But also... 2. to solicit advice from people less mechanically-challenged than me! Perhaps I'm just not doing this right, and there is actually a solution. Please help! Okay, here are the pictures to illustrate this problem - Note the female groove at the top of the lens barrel. The hood has squeeze tabs to pull these grips flush with the lens. The hood has a male groove that stops the hood being lowered any further than this groove. Releasing the tabs moves the grips back out and they clamp onto the female groove on the lens. Attaching this filter (and I presume many others) does not cause a problem with the overall circumference to clear. This one is perfectly flush with the lens barrel. Here is the hood affixed without the filter. Note the height. Here is the hood affixed with the filter. The extra height created by the filter prevents the grips from reaching the female groove on the lens barrel. It has no grip at all really and would come off at the slightest bump. The issue then is one of height. I'm not sure if any filter will be thin enough to avoid this problem. Thoughts...? What am I missing here?
  6. Guys, sharing my mini visual travel of Annecy, France. Taken with Leica ME and 50mm Summilux. Hope you all enjoy it https://juliusyls.com/blog/2021/6/6/annecy
  7. Shots of Amsterdam, with Leica ME & 50mm Summilux.
  8. Hey guys, The 35 Summicron ASPH ii was updated last year to improve the mechanical design as well as resolving power. While it may not be noticeable on the current 24MP sensors it does offer a greater degree of clarity on the bigger 42 megapixel Sony sensor and when when printed to large sizes. This would indicate that, sometime down the road, Leica will inevitably move to larger MP sensors. In this respect, I was wondering if anyone knew what the resolving power of the Summilux 35 ASPH FLE was? Would be interesting to know, especially considering that it came out in 2011. Regards
  9. Hi All, I'm a bit new here or rather I've lurked here for a very long time without posting. I've tried searching a bit, but I can't seem to find anything on the specific question I have or perhaps I'm searching poorly I currently have a chrome 50mm Summilux pre-asph that I am using on a M3 and M7, but as it's well documented this lens has a bit of a classic look to its rendering and at times lacks the micro contrast and corner sharpness of modern designs and do love the look of the lens. The classic rendering is a big part of why I haven't upgraded to an ASPH version. I do a lot of portraiture and this look is very forgiving in that scenario. I've used this lens for about 3 years now so I feel pretty comfortable with its look overall. That being said, there are quite a few occasions where I would like a bit more of a modern rendering. I think I like the modern rending for a lot of the non portrait everyday type uses. So I am wondering if there are any users here who currently field a pre asph summilux and an additional 50mm lens as a complement in other situations. I am seriously considering the 50mm summarit 2.4 as my second lens. I have heard that it has a way of rendering that is a bit classic and modern at the same time and has a smaller footprint. Does anyone an opinion on using the older lux and summarit as a sibling lens? For reference I have also used the 50mm DR summicron(Loved the handling and sharpness, but it was similarly classic to my summilux) and the 50mm Zeiss Planar f/2(liked the lens, but didn't care for the handling) Thanks so much!
  10. Some pictures from the F1 weekend in Bahrain.
  11. I recently purchased a brand new unopened 50 summilux f/1.4 asph lens in silver and when I unpackaged it I noticed a clear liquid on the outside barrel of the lens. I was able to wipe it off but wondered what it was? And whether I should exchange the lens for a different one? Inside the lens it looks fine at the moment and not sure if liquid would have seeped inside. Just wandered if anyone had a similar experience. I want to make sure nothing is wrong with the lens since I spent 4K on it.
  12. Hi everybody, i just got my summilux 35 fle this week. and i'm having difficulties comparing these two lenses. i'm sorry if my writing is not good and my sample picture are very crappy but this is only a test. i just want to share my experience with these lenses Please checkout this link first in flickr to see in high resolution. https://flic.kr/s/aHskP24eFN from my observation in couple days for brief moment, comparing side by side in lightroom, i really impressed with the voigtlander 35mm f1.7 ultron. Sharpness at the center the ultron beat the summilux on sharpness wide open. (f1.7 vs f1.4) but summilux beat the ultron at the same aperture f1.7 but not by much though Bokeh both have beautiful bokeh. sometimes i can't tell which is which. Contrast summilux has more contrast, but only a hair saturation summilux has more saturation but only like 3-5% i think size the Lux with the hood and the ultron without the hood is about the same size. i never use the hood on ultron since i bought it. it resist the flare very good. and it looks nicer. the ultron is slimmer than lux and lighter than the lux rendering both lens render is quite the same also. Now, the difference visible in my eye is curvature of the lens the summilux has center curvature that makes the subject on the center pop. ( i think this is the way leica did to make 3d pop) i can notice the size of a subject side by side with the voigtlander. the subject at the center is bigger on summilux than voigtlander. certainly the plane focus is not flat overall ultron is only 5-10% to catch up the FLE i would say. so in the end, i still finding the reason to keep this lens since the lens is 4x the cost of the ultron.
  13. Mahesh

    80-Lux

    The first picture with my 80 lux-r, on Sony A7ii
  14. Hey guys! I spent 6 weeks in NYC basically just taking pictures ... mostly street, but also Landscape and People ... I mostly used my M9 and 35mm Summilux ASPH (pre FLE) wide open and sometimes my S (006) and 70mm Summarit. If I don't comment which combo I used, it'll be the M9 35Lux combo... Feel free to comment and critique I'm not a pro and I just do stuff the way I like it .. so not everything is perfect... Here are a couple of shots from the End of July .. some of the best sunsets I have ever seen.
  15. Guest

    Illuminated

    Leica T + 50mm f/1.4 Summilux-M ASPH ISO 400, f1.4, 1/160 "Illuminated Humans"
  16. I'm looking to trade up my 35mm Summicron ASPH to a Summilux for my M6. I shoot only film and so I've been craving a slightly faster lens that'll go well with slow film. After some research, I'm torn between all the different types of Summilux's: - Pre-ASPH/Classic (cheaper, prone to flare, prone to focus shift, softer on the edges, and has the classic Leica glow/rendition) - Aspherical (super expensive, a non-option for me) - ASPH (a little cheaper than the FLE, still prone to focus shift, sharper than the Pre-ASPH, still has the classic Leica glow/rendition - not as much as Pre-ASPH though) - ASPH FLE (expensive, no focus shift, really sharp, lots of contrast, more modern Leica look) I'm leaning towards the ASPH and ASPH FLE, and the only reason why I'm leaning towards the ASPH FLE was that the focus shift is mostly eliminated with the floating lens element. However, I kind of like the classic Leica look that the regular ASPH has. I've also read places that focus shift is less prominent in film cameras. Is that really true? Should I just spring for the FLE version?
  17. Guest

    Closed for Lunch ?

    Leica T + 50mm f/1.4 Summilux-M ASPH ISO 200, f1.4, 1/125 "Closed for Lunch ?"
  18. Guest

    Tired

    Leica T + 50mm f/1.4 Summilux-M ASPH ISO 400, f1.4, 1/200 "Tired"
  19. In 2009 I bought my first Leica (M8.2 and an Elmarit 28mm lens) - today I placed my second order after 8 years, (M10 + Summilux 35) and I will have to trade in my trusted M8.2 and Elmarit 28 lens. I was very hesitant to keep the Elmarit 28 and maybe add to it a 50 Summilux, or sell and get a 28 Summilux + 90 Summicron, blah, blah, blah. Then I realised, if I was able to publish a book, have multiple exhibitions and take tens of thousands of pictures with my 1 body + 1 lens, actually I don't need anything else, just the continuation of my current trusted minimalistic setup: M10 and Summilux 35mm. That's all. No fuss, no pain. Don't need to carry and change lenses, no bag, no nothing. For backup, I have my iPhone. I feel great, didn't get the GAS syndrome! Well, actually the opposite: GSS! (Gear Selling Syndrome). As I wanted to to finance my new gear I had to sell all my Canon gear - which I rarely used in the last few years (7DMkII, 6D, Sigma ART 35mm f/1.4, Canon EF 85mm f/1.8, Canon EF-S 17-55 IS USM) plus I will trade in my Leica 8.2 + Elmarit Lens + I need to pay some cash as well... Looking at the list of gear to be exchanged "only" for an M10 + Summilux 35, feels scary and risky. But I know that I made the right choice, I will continue to stay creative as I was with my previous gear. (By the way, I placed my order in Vienna, Austria at Leicashop, with their trusted owner, Hannes Wahry - a brilliant person!) I just wanted to share my story. Happy shooting!
  20. I recently bought a used "mint" Summilux 35 ASPH FLE and upon receiving it I discovered the inside of the lens to be extremely dusty. Needless to say, I returned it immediately. I do wonder how this could be possible though - the lens was sold to the previous owner in 2016/10 so it's been used for about a year. I just can't believe a one-year-old lens can have this much dust in it. Is there some type of design flaw with the FLE version that makes it prone to dust? I'm thinking about getting a new one so I don't want the lens to be like this after a year...
  21. I recently bought a used "mint" Summilux 35 ASPH FLE and upon receiving it I discovered the inside of the lens to be extremely dusty. Needless to say, I returned it immediately. I do wonder how this could be possible though - the lens was sold to the previous owner in 2016/10 so it's been used for about a year. I just can't believe a one-year-old lens can have this much dust in it. Is there some type of design flaw with the FLE version that makes it prone to dust? I'm thinking about getting a new one so I don't want the lens to be like this after a year...
  22. I have recently purchased a used 75mm Summilux f/1.4 which has an issue with back focusing. I did some tests today, and from minimum focusing distance to about 1.5 meters, the focus is very good. Then the back focusing is more and more visible at longer distances. At 2 meters the focus is about 5 cm behind, and at 3 meters it back focuses maybe 30 cm. I can't see any difference at different apertures. What is the best thing to do? Send it to Leica for an adjustment? Do they need the camera as well? (hope not). Or should I just find a way to live with it, e.g. try to remember how much nearer I have to focus at different distances? I have planned to buy a Visoflex, but currently I can't afford it.
  23. Hello ! There are quite a lot of threads in this forum dealing with a possible (aperture dependent) focus shift when using the Summilux 1.4/35 asp. lens. Does anybody know whether this issue does also concern the aspheric Summicron ? Do the older (non-aspheric) versions of these lenses have this problem, too ? Many thanks for any answer.
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