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  1. I couldn't find an image thread for the 21mm focal length, so please post your images here, extra points for images shot on film! 21mm SEM, Leica M10D, tripod
  2. This awesome 21mm lens with f/1.4 f-stop totally deserves its own thread. The popularity of fast wide M lenses among Leica photographers seems to drop as soon as one drifts away from the optical viewfinder lines of the eternal 28mm / 35mm / 50mm trinity. Leica even went as far as to discontinue its entire 24mm M line of lenses at some point in 2020, including the precious Summilux 24. Yet for reportage, conventions, events, concerts, wedding receptions and people photography, a fast wide angle is usually priceless. What the Summilux 21 f/1.4 offers over other slower (f/1.8 to f/3.4) lenses from the 21mm scuderia (there are not many for the M, although Voigtlander and TTArtisan offer direct competition with same or very similar f-stop) is the incredible separation of the subject from the background, an amazing feature for a wide angle lens. The 21 lux is of course a Karbe masterpiece, Erwin Puts even said in one of his articles that "If you compare the 1.4/21 with the 0.95/50mm you see comparable quality." Please post your images and share your experience with the 21 lux - everything from series VIII/8 filters and other adapted filter solutions to your experience with this light beast in the field and on assignments, preferrably wide open. This is NOT a SEM thread, but a comparison between the two is OK.
  3. 21mm APO in Rainny Night This is a harsh test for the all weather capability of my SL2 and SL 21mm f/2 APO. It was a rainny night at Shibuya, Tokyo. When this red modifed Mazda RX-7 sports car passing me, I picked up my camera right away and shoot in AF mode. The lens did hunt a bit in dark+rain but eventually locked her target, I missed the moment which I wanted the car on the crossing, anyway. A subject can't stand out without a suitable background. Japan streets and cars are absolutely clean, sign board light is bright, the reflection from the wet asphalt road looks gorgeous to my eyes. I generally won't shoot streets under the rain in other places, but Japan is an exception. This is my very first day shooting with my SL 21mm APO on SL2 , the prictures are sharp centre to corner, AF is reliable but not snappy in dark. The picture was taken with f/2, 1/60, ISO320, colour graded in ACR. And this image has been cropped to just 3.4MP from the original 47MP output. THIS LENS CHANGE MY PREFERNCE. If you need the depth of field anyway, why bother to carry a heavy zoom or second lens anymore, if the photos are for sharing here and IG. Thanks to the high pixel sensor and the unbeatable 21mm APO, I believe this could be my ultimate answer.
  4. For UWA lens fans and users: could you work/live with just one UWA lens to rule them all (say, 15mm or 18mm) or would you rather have two extreme sides of UWA (like Laowa 9mm/Voigtlander 10/12mm and a 21mm)? Your thoughts are appreciated.
  5. Hallo zusammen, ich habe das Problem, dass die Sonnenblende am Super Elmar 21/3.4 sehr locker ist. Sie verstellt sich manchmal während des Fotografieren und schattet das Bild ab. Habt ihr eine Idee die Blende fester zu machen? Will sie aber noch abschrauben können um Filter darauf zu setzen. Bitte keine Tips wie Sekundenkleber oder sonstiges die das Objektiv in ihrer Funktion einschränken könnten. Ich danke euch schon ganz herzlich für eure Tips im voraus!
  6. Hello everyone, I decided to get very soon a 21mm, plus a VF (probably the CV 21/25). I want a brand new lens, not used. I'm ready and excited to explore this FL on my M10... Because I don't need speed, my primary choice it's the Color Skopar f/3.5. I know it's a great lens, small and light as I prefer, affordable, and it would fulfill my needs and pleasure to shoot at f/4 and f.8. Now, said that I have to confess you something. The most inspiring M lens I always wanted to buy since my first Leica year, it's not a 35 APO. Or a Noctilux, or any summilux. It's actually an Elmar, a super one... The one and only 21 SEM. Yes! In my very short Leica/rangefinder experience, I think I understood that the 21/SEM is one of the finest lenses of the brand. It's super sharp, corner to corner, an extraordinary glass with almost no lacks or competition in its focal length (when speed is not needed). And it always attracted me a lot. It makes sense to have only one lens as a reference for that specific FL. Am I right? I can have five, six 35mm lenses, but in my mind, it makes sense to have just one 21. Is this a lens that makes almost everyone happy? . I'm still "scared" it's not necessary that much, because I'm sure I will be fine too with the Color-Skopar, you know what I mean? Nowadays, the brand new lenses are modern and great. I love the 2.8/35 ZM IQ and rendering, as my CV 35/1.4 II MC. They are different tools for other purposes. But If I love the Nokton Classic, do I should love the Color Skopar anyway? 🤣 Just kidding. I mean, I'm totally ok with a 90% sharp lens instead of the best one. And I know too that I would appreciate in the SEM, the lens hood shape (which I adore), the focus tab, the 6-bit coded, etc etc. In your experience, or from what you have heard, what do you think are the differences between the two 21? Does it (super) worth the upgrade? Any feedback it's very appreciated. In constant M-evolution, Have a great Sunday.
  7. Hi all! I'm planning to get a new 21mm next month. My ideal FL would be a 24mm, but there is not an option with my $1k budget. So I'm getting (happily) a further 21mm. Now, I know huge differences between the two, mostly for size, weight, and speed. I heard great things about the ZM 25, but I don't want to get another Zeiss for now, except for the incredible IQ and performance, I don't like very much Zeiss lenses. I love the idea of a small and light $700 21mm lens, like a pancake. With wide angles (21-24-28), I really like to shoot at f/5.6-8, I never had a fast wide lens, so I never use it less than 2.8 with these FL. But I also like the fact that 1.4 gives about 3 extra stops. What for? Environment portraits with shallow DOP, milky way, indoor low light, etc. It's certainly an advantage, but it comes with enormous size and weight. It's not a lens that you carry all day long, so I'm not afraid about weight and size. I can live with that. I would get of course an external VF. And, by the way, I really love the Nokton lens hood shape 🙂 Beautiful. My question for you guys, if you can share your feedback, it's how both lenses perform in the f/4-f/8 range. This is what I would love to know. The price difference is not so big, so I'could🤷‍♂️ get the Nokton. But if at these apertures performs a little bit worst than Color-Skopar, I don't care to lose three stops, if I have better quality. I like the modern look and sharp images. A minimal background: I own an M10 + 2.8/35 ZM and a 50mm Cron V. I don't have a budget now to get another Leica, so I would love to try out a Voigtlander; it would be my first. Thank you in advance for your opinions.
  8. Hi all, I have been reading on this forum for a long time, but never posted before, so first let me introduce myself. My name is Ole, I am from Norway, and I have been into photography for nearly a decade. Hence, I am still a junior:) A month ago I both my first Leica film camera, a nearly mint M3 from 1966. I love shooting with 50mm, so when deciding between an M2, M3 and M6 the choice was easy. I also have an M246 which I couldn't be more happy with. In addition, I have a Sony A7 for convenience, and because my wife forbids me from selling it ("we need a camera that can take colour photos of our future kids"). Yes, we are expecting one later this year:) Moving on. When I bought the M246 I quickly opted for the Zeiss C Biogon 21/4.5 as my UWA. My rationale was that this lens would give me what I needed for the least amount of $$$. The colour issues are not a problem on the M246, and the lens have plenty of qualities. In fact, in many ways its a real gem - small, nearly zero distortion, and plenty of sharpness in central and midfield areas. Towards the edges the sharpness drops rather quickly though. And, as many of you know, the lens vignettes A LOT. On a digital camera with a histogram I can overcome this. But what about on a film camera? Have any of you used this lens on a film camera, and how do you usually expose? Does it vignette as much on film as it does on a digital camera? I know, the best way to find out is to go out and test, which I will do as soon as I get 21mm viewfinder. But until then it would be very nice to hear your experiences with this little gem:) Thanks for reading. All the best, Ole
  9. Hi all, I think I'll give up with SEM 21 after tried 2 misaligned samples, so I'm looking for alternatives for use with both M and SL. As for Leica lenses, Summilux is pricey and doesn't seem to worth it if you don't need f/1.4 on a UWA lens - I don't. Elmarit Asph was pretty good on film (I've had one with M6s), don't know on sensor. It's not cheaper than an used SEM, however. How good is the Zeiss Biogon 21/2.8? On paper looks very good, and at a fair price... does it work well on SL? How is corner sharpness? Alternatives? Ultron 21/1.8, any good? Thank you S.
  10. I have been using the Leica 21mm Super Elmar lens over the last year more and more and have been really blown away with the quality of this lens. I have attached a couple of favorites, and if of interest, I have posted a small review on my site: https://photobasecamp.com/review-leica-21mm-super-elmar/ Thanks so much for taking a look! Mike
  11. Hello people, I am a newbie, both to this forum and leica, so please forgive me if i ask stupid or outdated questions... so basically i'm trying to decide on a 21mm lens... i've heard people saying that you buy the Lux for the large aperture for low light and creative shooting and you buy the SEM for higher quality landscape photography.... but still wanna hear from your experience, is it correct to say that 21/3.4 produces better IQ than 21/1.4 throughout? i.e. only real shortfall of 21/3.4 is the small aperture?? Or, if you stop down 21/1.4 to f3.4 and smaller the IQ is comparable or same as 21/3.4? and would the discontinued 21/2.8 ASPH be a good compromise in aperture size and IQ??? Not considering other factors such as price, size/weight, non-Leica lenses... Thank you all in advance....
  12. Within Lightroom 4 there is a decent selection of lens profiles for the Leica M (as well as the S), but when attempting to download more in the Adobe Lens Profile Downloader not a single lens is shown when selecting "Leica" from the "Camera Make" column. I would think that at least the existing profiles would be there, but nothing! I am looking for a solution to correct for the color cast of the Cosina-Voigtländer 15mm and 21mm M lenses on the Leica M9. I bought the Super-Elmar M 18mm as a compromise, but I decided to go with the Leica 21mm and ditch the rest. In the meantime, I still need to correct the images I have made with the CV 15mm and 21mm. Does Lightroom 4 have the ability to correct these color casts like Cornerfix, or am I barking up the wrong tree? If not, where can I download Cornerfix profiles? Must I make my own?
  13. taken in Pulau Ubin, an Island off Singapore during sunset. Leica M9, 21mm f/1.4 Summilux ASPH, Hi-Tech 1.2 ND, 0.6 GND Soft Filters 21mm, f/11, 60sec, ISO 160
  14. Taken in La Defense Grande Arche, Paris Leica M9, 21mm Summilux f/1.4 ASPH 21mm, f/8, 1/125s, ISO 160
  15. taken with Leica M9, 21mm f/1.4 Summilux ASPH with Lee 0.6 ND Filter
  16. taken on a ferris wheel on top of a shopping centre in Osaka, Japan HEP FIVE/ヘップファイブー大阪・梅田・赤い観覧車のファッションビル handheld shot with Leica M9, 21mm f/1.4 Summilux ASPH
  17. I am a new Leica M9 user and I bought my camera with a 50mm Summicron f/2. Doing a lot of travelling I felt last week in Chicago that I really need to go wide when shooting skylines, architecture and interiors (it was the art museum). In two weeks I will go to India and I really want something before that trip. I have been thinking of both the Super Elmar M 21mm and the Elmarit M 28mm ASPH and I am going back and forth between them. I am quite well aware of the positives and negatives of them but cannot make up my mind! What would be the recommendation from you using these lenses today in your daily photography and when traveling?
  18. I just bought the Leica 21mm f/2.8 Elmarit-M (1991 60mm filter version from Canada) through ebay and awaiting shipping. I was into buying this lens as new (Super Elmar f/3.4) but I got a very good deal on this one including the Leica view finder so I did not hesitate to buy. But I have problems to find any reviews of this lens. There are many reviews of the same ASPH but not w/o the ASPH. Does anyone own one like this or have tested one? What is your experience and is there something special to think about?
  19. I'm thinking about getting a 21mm lens for my M9. Past reviews have liked the Zeiss Biogon f2.8 ZM lens with great performance at a price significantly lower than its Leica counterpart. Recently Lloyd Chambers has put a warning on his Zeiss ZM lens recommendations saying that Zeiss now adjusts the focus of the lenses for film and they no longer focus properly on the M9. Can anyone substantiate this problem? What experience have other had with the 21mm Biogon ZM on the M9?
  20. http://soundvisionpassion.com/2011/1...-color-skopar/ Hey everyone! I finally got my review up of this little lens. The 21mm F/4 is a fantastic lens. It doesn't change the world over, but for a 21mm lens, it is pretty darn amazing when it's price is factored in. I found a method of focusing to .5m on the M8 that works every time in the field. (even wide open!) I can nail sharp focus. I don't know if this works with other .5m lenses yet...but maybe someone can try it with the new 35 1.2. You can see detailed shot of how to focus to .5 in the write up! Let me know if this works for you as well!
  21. i do have an old Zeiss 21mm (Contessa?) hotshoe finder. It's fine so far, however, the magnification is somewhat small. I did find a spec sheet of the Voigtländer 21 (plastic) finder where they rated the mag with 0,42. Is the metal one the same? The Leica finders (old plastic and metal) seem to have 0,3. Does someone know the specs of the Zeiss 21 finder?
  22. pgk

    Time takes its toll

    An allotment hut - just. M8 21mm f/3.4 Super-Angulon
  23. Walked up the hill overlooking the village this evening - lovely light but fast changing. M8 21mm f/3.4 Super-Angulon
  24. Here's some shots I took yesterday - out with the new 21mm 'Lux in the (unusual) London sunshine Getting to know my lens day - very pleased with it so far. London Bridge Steps [ATTACH]204452[/ATTACH] Near City Hall [ATTACH]204453[/ATTACH] City Hall [ATTACH]204454[/ATTACH]
  25. Hi. Sorry, I don't mean to re-hash old discussions. I have read numerous threads on 21mm Elmarit vs. 24mm Elmarit issue (as well as 21mm Elmarit vs. 21mm Summilux issue) but just cannot come to a conclusion on the matter. I am looking for a wide angle lens to add to my arsenal of 50mm Lux and 35mm Cron both of which I am very happy with (but I just feel the need to go wide at certain times). I have used the 21mm Elmarit (both pre-asph and asph) and am aware of the issues of loss of shapness and dark edges when wide open as well as some distortions but still think it is a neat lens (actually prefer the pre-asph). I have read on this forum and at other places that 24mm Elmarit is a "dream" and that it is optically superior. What makes the 24mm such a "dream"? I see that the 24mm usually commands a premium over the 21mm and wonder if the price reflects this sentiment. Is the 24mm such a superior lens that I will just be missing out a lot if I "settle" with the 21mm? Is the combination of focal lengths (as mentioned above) a consideration as well? I have also considered the Voigtlander Cosina 21mm/4.0 due to its size and cost advantage but have read that it is not good for the M9 given its rear nodal point being too close to the sensor. Pleaes help me with some feedback. Thank you for your help.
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