Viv Posted June 13, 2022 Share #141 Posted June 13, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just to inform everyone: My Leica CL has not been discontinued. It still works perfectly. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ba Erv Posted June 13, 2022 Share #142 Posted June 13, 2022 34 minutes ago, frame-it said: Am Curious..are you from Thailand or just living there? Temporary, but no stranger to Thailand Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted June 13, 2022 Share #143 Posted June 13, 2022 6 hours ago, Ba Erv said: Temporary, but no stranger to Thailand ah so you're not thai...that might explain the Gaysorn experience 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ba Erv Posted June 14, 2022 Share #144 Posted June 14, 2022 2 hours ago, frame-it said: ah so you're not thai...that might explain the Gaysorn experience I’m not German, Italian, Chinese, Hungarian, Austrian, Indonesian, British, Polish, or Korean…nor speak in a Brooklyn dialect but those guys seemed to want to sell Leica cameras. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffreyg Posted June 15, 2022 Share #145 Posted June 15, 2022 Many of the products I like and use are discontinued. Its not the end of the world, not at all. Think about all those historic cars, etc... not to mention cameras! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotium Posted June 15, 2022 Share #146 Posted June 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, geoffreyg said: Many of the products I like and use are discontinued. Its not the end of the world, not at all. Think about all those historic cars, etc... not to mention cameras! I’m still waiting to get myself a new Honda s2000. Waiting for 22 years now… 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elambo Posted June 22, 2022 Share #147 Posted June 22, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 6/14/2022 at 5:56 PM, geoffreyg said: Many of the products I like and use are discontinued. Its not the end of the world, not at all. Think about all those historic cars, etc... not to mention cameras! Good point about the value of vintage items, but it's a bit different when technology governs the entire device, as is the case with the CL. A single obsolete component can cripple the whole thing. Look at DV cameras, which often using mini-Firewire. I have dozens of DV tapes and nowhere to play them and nothing to connect them to. Of course SD cards aren't going by the wayside like DV, but other electronic components within the CL might become a hurdle -- or a limitation -- in the future. Those old cameras are still relevant as long as you can still buy and develop film, and get the repaired when necessary. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Dahl Posted June 23, 2022 Share #148 Posted June 23, 2022 7 hours ago, elambo said: Good point about the value of vintage items, but it's a bit different when technology governs the entire device, as is the case with the CL. A single obsolete component can cripple the whole thing. Look at DV cameras, which often using mini-Firewire. I have dozens of DV tapes and nowhere to play them and nothing to connect them to. Of course SD cards aren't going by the wayside like DV, but other electronic components within the CL might become a hurdle -- or a limitation -- in the future. Those old cameras are still relevant as long as you can still buy and develop film, and get the repaired when necessary. That is the problem. CL / SL L Mount. The same situation other camera brands are in. The biggest problem here is that Leica chooses not to make APSC anymore AND leica does not tell if there will be an alternative FF.This means that I as a customer do not know if I can trust them for there L Mount. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 24, 2022 Share #149 Posted June 24, 2022 There is nothing wrong with the mount as such and it appears to be gaining traction. The APS-C section is just a smaller part and certainly not a measure for any future L-mount success. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSH-Photo Posted June 24, 2022 Share #150 Posted June 24, 2022 Leica still lists the CL on its website. The Adorama still lists new CLs for sale; it says they are "temporarily on back order." Is Leica still manufacturing the CL? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elambo Posted June 25, 2022 Share #151 Posted June 25, 2022 4 hours ago, RSH-Photo said: Leica still lists the CL on its website. The Adorama still lists new CLs for sale; it says they are "temporarily on back order." Is Leica still manufacturing the CL? Curious... Though on the Leica page the "Shop Now" link takes you to a 404 page error. And B&H still shows it as Discontinued. But you're right -- Adorama lists it as Backordered and allows you to make the purchase. I think it's just residue. A lack of housekeeping. The CLs don't seem to be coming back, sadly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted June 25, 2022 Share #152 Posted June 25, 2022 10 hours ago, RSH-Photo said: Leica still lists the CL on its website. The Adorama still lists new CLs for sale; it says they are "temporarily on back order." Is Leica still manufacturing the CL? Stock clearance, I suspect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffreyg Posted June 27, 2022 Share #153 Posted June 27, 2022 Lets try starting from an unproven assumption: Leica will not let the L lenses they have made go into the dark of the night unsupported, or unused. The reason is the significant effort they have put into them, and their sheer quality, and while they can discontinue a camera, abandoning a lens lineup is a more serious story. (That said, one could surmise from the lack of new lenses they have abandoned the line, but let that go for now.....). If that is the case (its only an assumption), then: 1) is the SL an adequate path for leica to say there is still a path for their use? 2) or is the use of other platforms a sufficient answer for Leica? (see the L2 alliance...) My guess is that a combination of these two possibilities is good enough to them. Any thoughts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted June 27, 2022 Share #154 Posted June 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, geoffreyg said: 1) is the SL an adequate path for leica to say there is still a path for their use? an SL3 with the M11 60mp sony sensor, should give decent results with the T / CL lenses i guess around 30MP++ ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynp Posted June 27, 2022 Share #155 Posted June 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, frame-it said: an SL3 with the M11 60mp sony sensor, should give decent results with the T / CL lenses i guess around 30MP++ ? Can Leica make it less than 450 grams? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted June 27, 2022 Share #156 Posted June 27, 2022 25 minutes ago, ynp said: Can Leica make it less than 450 grams? Leica probably cant, but Panasonic can 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 27, 2022 Share #157 Posted June 27, 2022 40 minutes ago, ynp said: Can Leica make it less than 450 grams? Sigma does it already. https://www.dpreview.com/products/sigma/slrs/sigma_fpl 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynp Posted June 27, 2022 Share #158 Posted June 27, 2022 42 minutes ago, lct said: Sigma does it already. https://www.dpreview.com/products/sigma/slrs/sigma_fpl Thank you. I am seriously considering the Sigma to use as a digital back for my Actus view camera. I tested it tethered to C1 and now I am looking for a second hand camera. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted June 27, 2022 Share #159 Posted June 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, ynp said: Thank you. I am seriously considering the Sigma to use as a digital back for my Actus view camera. I tested it tethered to C1 and now I am looking for a second hand camera. the 60mp version? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynp Posted June 27, 2022 Share #160 Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, frame-it said: the 60mp version? Yes. The Sigma FP-l. Loved the files when tested. Edited June 27, 2022 by ynp 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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