jonnyboy Posted December 5, 2023 Share #41  Posted December 5, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) It's great to see a new film product - I was hoping it was priced closed to Kentmere films. At the current price, it seems to be a direct competitor of Kodal Color Plus 200 - which is a great film. I may give it a try at some point - or wait for the less expensive expired rolls in few years 😂 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 Hi jonnyboy, Take a look here Harman Introduces a NEW COLOUR FILM. Phoenix rising!. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Michael-IIIf Posted December 6, 2023 Share #42  Posted December 6, 2023 First impressions: very difficult to use, seems to overexpose and underexpose at the same time. Quite grainy, but that might be the quick and dirty develop and scan by my local high street store. I'll send the next roll back to Harman to see if there is a difference. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/385402-harman-introduces-a-new-colour-film-phoenix-rising/?do=findComment&comment=4933370'>More sharing options...
Michael-IIIf Posted December 6, 2023 Share #43  Posted December 6, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M2, 35 'Cron 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M2, 35 'Cron ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/385402-harman-introduces-a-new-colour-film-phoenix-rising/?do=findComment&comment=4933372'>More sharing options...
Michael-IIIf Posted December 6, 2023 Share #44  Posted December 6, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/385402-harman-introduces-a-new-colour-film-phoenix-rising/?do=findComment&comment=4933373'>More sharing options...
Michael-IIIf Posted December 6, 2023 Share #45  Posted December 6, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/385402-harman-introduces-a-new-colour-film-phoenix-rising/?do=findComment&comment=4933374'>More sharing options...
Michael-IIIf Posted December 6, 2023 Share #46  Posted December 6, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/385402-harman-introduces-a-new-colour-film-phoenix-rising/?do=findComment&comment=4933375'>More sharing options...
Mr.Prime Posted December 6, 2023 Share #47 Â Posted December 6, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) I think you've just launched the 'Harman glow' 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sometimesmaybe Posted December 6, 2023 Share #48 Â Posted December 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Michael-IIIf said: Quite grainy, but that might be the quick and dirty develop and scan by my local high street store. I'll send the next roll back to Harman to see if there is a difference. Â apparently it needs some specific changes to get the best results. Harman says: "Unlike more traditional colour negative films, HARMAN Phoenix 200 does not have an orange mask. This can affect scanner response and some adjustment may therefore be required to achieve the optimum results. Some recommendations for best settings are shown below. These scanning settings were developed by HARMANLab.com in conjunction with and support from The Darkroom.com, Analogue Wonderlab, SilverPan Film Lab and Blue Moon Camera and Machine." https://www.harmanphoto.co.uk/wp/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2023/11/Phoenix-Scanning-Parameters-151103-1-1.pdf 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danner Posted December 7, 2023 Author Share #49  Posted December 7, 2023 7 hours ago, Michael-IIIf said: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Thanks for posting Michael.  Colors seem nicely saturated with this one.  The overall vibe is cool, I like it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christoph_d Posted December 7, 2023 Share #50  Posted December 7, 2023 13 hours ago, Michael-IIIf said: First impressions: very difficult to use, seems to overexpose and underexpose at the same time. Quite grainy, but that might be the quick and dirty develop and scan by my local high street store. I'll send the next roll back to Harman to see if there is a difference. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! If you have the chance you could try to develop the film in ECN-2 instead of C-41. This would give you a flatter less contrasty curve with less pronounced colours. (Once scanned into the digital world, you can of course let Photoshop loose on the results ...) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skahde Posted December 7, 2023 Share #51  Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) This is just the baby-steps of a new product-line and Ilford is quite open about this. Lots of boxes still unchecked on the list of steps to a state-of-the-art color-film. But I'm happy to see that Ilford is making such a bold move into new teritory and feel confident to say, they will probably catch up with the competition within the next few years. Edited December 7, 2023 by skahde 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael-IIIf Posted December 7, 2023 Share #52 Â Posted December 7, 2023 13 hours ago, sometimesmaybe said: apparently it needs some specific changes to get the best results. Thanks, I'll collect the negs from the lab and have a play around scanning them myself. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael-IIIf Posted December 7, 2023 Share #53 Â Posted December 7, 2023 2 hours ago, skahde said: But I'm happy to see that Ilford is making such a bold move Absolutely. And even though it's an expensive film I'm happy to support them in this bold move. I have another roll to experiment with, I think I'll send this one back to Harman for processing and scanning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted December 7, 2023 Share #54 Â Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Michael-IIIf said: Absolutely. And even though it's an expensive film I'm happy to support them in this bold move. I have another roll to experiment with, I think I'll send this one back to Harman for processing and scanning. a friend in a nearby city got great results shooting it at 100asa if you're trying to scan at home, try scanning as dng[raw] with all software corrections off Edited December 7, 2023 by frame-it 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Prime Posted December 7, 2023 Share #55 Â Posted December 7, 2023 5 hours ago, frame-it said: a friend in a nearby city got great results photos or it didn't happen ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted December 7, 2023 Share #56 Â Posted December 7, 2023 5 hours ago, Mr.Prime said: photos or it didn't happen ? these aint mine https://www.instagram.com/p/C0gJpCWSO7m/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhilltony Posted December 8, 2023 Share #57  Posted December 8, 2023 7 hours ago, frame-it said: these aint mine https://www.instagram.com/p/C0gJpCWSO7m/ It seems he still underexposed when shooting at 100. The muddy yellow tint in shadow…could be the fault of lab scanner settings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted December 8, 2023 Share #58  Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Greenhilltony said: It seems he still underexposed when shooting at 100. The muddy yellow tint in shadow…could be the fault of lab scanner settings. could be, what i hate about smaller lab scan facils is sometimes the newbie sets some of the scanner [fuji/noritsu] functions to auto  Edited December 8, 2023 by frame-it 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted December 8, 2023 Share #59  Posted December 8, 2023 On 12/7/2023 at 1:11 AM, Michael-IIIf said: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Hi michael, how did you meter the film? Rate at box speed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted December 8, 2023 Share #60  Posted December 8, 2023 On 12/7/2023 at 6:10 PM, frame-it said: a friend in a nearby city got great results shooting it at 100asa if you're trying to scan at home, try scanning as dng[raw] with all software corrections off Yeah seen some samples, with rated 100, and home developed with NLP set to linear preset, great results i and it’s nailed, i love the vibe and color punch with this stock films, compared to lomo92 and orwo counterpart 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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