Michael-IIIf Posted December 8, 2023 Share #61 Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, jakontil said: Hi michael, how did you meter the film? Rate at box speed? 200 ISO For that photo I metered off the signage. For the vase of flowers, I metered off the dark area of the vase. For the house, I metered its highlights. My meter is just a phone app - it might not be the most accurate. Edited December 8, 2023 by Michael-IIIf 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 Hi Michael-IIIf, Take a look here Harman Introduces a NEW COLOUR FILM. Phoenix rising!. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
hansvons Posted December 9, 2023 Share #62 Posted December 9, 2023 21 hours ago, Michael-IIIf said: My meter is just a phone app - it might not be the most accurate. I guess your app meters just fine; at least my phone app does that as accurately as my M6. From the pictures, I saw online and here (thanks for sharing!), I reckon your images reflect pretty well what the new Phoenix film means: a steep gamma (like really steep), punchy colours (not too off) and lots of halation, all packed in a low-resolving, grainy emulsion with some acutance. It seems surprisingly well-performing with skin tones as lips are red and skin is, well, skin-toned. Because the gamma is pretty steep, it needs to be exposed accurately; think of reversal film, only that the bias should be directed towards a fat exposure. I have yet to test it. And I probably won't any time soon, as I'm well served with Kodak's cine stocks that give me everything I want. However, I can see it for shoots that aim for a vintage look—or younger folks like my daughter who long for a 70s lifestyle. Anyway, I love what Harman is doing! Maybe, at some point, they will surprise us with colour film stock that has the qualities of their B&W Delta series. That would be something! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted December 11, 2023 Share #63 Posted December 11, 2023 Did some test yesterday with 35 lux SR, home developed scanned with NLP very experimental film but love to support for the better, end of speech Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/385402-harman-introduces-a-new-colour-film-phoenix-rising/?do=findComment&comment=4938161'>More sharing options...
gtownby Posted December 13, 2023 Share #64 Posted December 13, 2023 I’m curious how Phoenix translates to B&W, i.e., running a file through Silver Efx Pro. (Some of my best B&W photos started their lives as color negatives. . . .) Has anyone tried it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtownby Posted December 13, 2023 Share #65 Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) OK - I took the liberty of running two of Michael-Illf's photos through Silver Efex Pro. The first is a "More Silver" conversion. The second is neutral. I like the conversions a lot! (Thanks Michael.) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited December 13, 2023 by gtownby grammar 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/385402-harman-introduces-a-new-colour-film-phoenix-rising/?do=findComment&comment=4941144'>More sharing options...
jakontil Posted December 15, 2023 Share #66 Posted December 15, 2023 Harman phoenix 200 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/385402-harman-introduces-a-new-colour-film-phoenix-rising/?do=findComment&comment=4943064'>More sharing options...
Clook Posted January 8 Share #67 Posted January 8 Advertisement (gone after registration) First results with Harman Phoenix. Shot at 100 ISO, Leica M7, Summicron 50, home developed in Cinestill C41 kit. Contrast and halation are the thing! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/385402-harman-introduces-a-new-colour-film-phoenix-rising/?do=findComment&comment=4977465'>More sharing options...
jakontil Posted January 8 Share #68 Posted January 8 Shot @ 125 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/385402-harman-introduces-a-new-colour-film-phoenix-rising/?do=findComment&comment=4977598'>More sharing options...
Danner Posted January 8 Author Share #69 Posted January 8 The retro-vibe of this film is really cool. Great shots. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Prime Posted January 8 Share #70 Posted January 8 (edited) The only images I've created with this kind of look was decades ago when I was living in England and using a film from Eastern Europe (Yugoslavia or Romania maybe); a really cheap deal that included mail-in processing. This Harman film has more saturated colours than I remember achieving from the cheapo film. Edited January 8 by Mr.Prime Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted January 9 Share #71 Posted January 9 13 hours ago, Danner said: The retro-vibe of this film is really cool. Great shots. Very much indeed, thanks though! Didnt expect much out of experimental, but i like the looks in addition to other color films 11 hours ago, Mr.Prime said: The only images I've created with this kind of look was decades ago when I was living in England and using a film from Eastern Europe (Yugoslavia or Romania maybe); a really cheap deal that included mail-in processing. This Harman film has more saturated colours than I remember achieving from the cheapo film. Yeah but surprisingly, that old feeling was coming back when looking at these, price aside Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sometimesmaybe Posted February 15 Share #72 Posted February 15 late to the party but i finally managed to shoot a test roll in a studio. shot at box speed with strobe. lab developed and scanned further adjusted by me in post. the lab scans are 1st and my edits 2nd Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/385402-harman-introduces-a-new-colour-film-phoenix-rising/?do=findComment&comment=5041470'>More sharing options...
sometimesmaybe Posted February 15 Share #73 Posted February 15 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/385402-harman-introduces-a-new-colour-film-phoenix-rising/?do=findComment&comment=5041472'>More sharing options...
sometimesmaybe Posted February 15 Share #74 Posted February 15 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/385402-harman-introduces-a-new-colour-film-phoenix-rising/?do=findComment&comment=5041473'>More sharing options...
sometimesmaybe Posted February 15 Share #75 Posted February 15 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/385402-harman-introduces-a-new-colour-film-phoenix-rising/?do=findComment&comment=5041474'>More sharing options...
sometimesmaybe Posted February 15 Share #76 Posted February 15 i like the phoenix look. i shot and metered (spot on the face) as if it was a slide film the shadows look darker than expected (maybe by 1 or 1.5 stops). i didnt bother lifting the shadows, but i did dial back the highlights just a touch. you can easily see the green and cyan colour cast on the white wall. there was also some blue colour cast on the timber floor in terms of skin tone, it looks good, but i did dial back the red and orange to just for my personal taste Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pintpot Posted March 26 Share #77 Posted March 26 Phoenix Film, commercially processed & scanned for me today. Manchester city centre. R7 28 - 70 Elmar zoom. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/385402-harman-introduces-a-new-colour-film-phoenix-rising/?do=findComment&comment=5136528'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 6 Share #78 Posted September 6 From the images here, it seems to me to have a similar look to Kodak Colorplus 200. Some years ago, when this was reintroduced, I bought 10 rolls to take to India with me, as supposedly it resisted thermal degradation better than other Kodak negative films. I was using my Leica R9 (mainly with 50 Summicron R-II and 24 Elmarit R-II) and set it to the recommended 200 ISO. I was disappointed in the results. Low saturation and a narrow exposure latitude, so that the bright areas were over-exposed and the dark areas underexposed. I just have a suspicion that Phoenix might have similar characteristics, so for colour negative, I will stick to Ektra or for a 400 ISO film, Ultramax. Kodak's E100 colour Positive film just gets better and better and is now equal to or better than my previous favourite, Agfa Precisa CT 100, which was actually made for Agfa by Fuji using the Fujichrome formulation but on a warming substrate, to control Fujichrome's blue/green bias. Wilson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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