grahamc Posted November 27, 2021 Share #161 Posted November 27, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 54 minutes ago, Steven said: Yes, I think they do a correction. At least in daylight when used with no filter to compensate. The advantage of 500T is that it has a remjet layer that avoid the light halos of cinestill. The advantage of cinestill is that imo it’s the one that pushed the best. I don’t like pushing Portra. It gets too contrasted. But cinestill gives enjoyable results when pushed one stop. as for 500T, it might look too close to reality for me. I think that Portra 800 gives more moody scenes. And the extra iso is a plus too. so Portra might become my go to film stock. It’s also by far my favorite in daylight, in any scenario. I usually prefer 160 over 400, but I’m forcing myself to shoot more and more 400 for extra versatility. 160 can be very limiting, even in daylight when stepping indoor occasionally. Thanks for the 500T and Cinestill info I agree about P400 - I find it much easier to get the results I want from 160, but always come back to 400 for the same reason as you. I find it a bit vibrant but will keep trying. The 800 has gorgeous tones, love the shot of the bike ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 Hi grahamc, Take a look here Which film stock do you shoot at night ? Image thread. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Steven Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share #162 Posted November 27, 2021 More vision 3 500T stuff Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/324550-which-film-stock-do-you-shoot-at-night-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4321532'>More sharing options...
Steven Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share #163 Posted November 27, 2021 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/324550-which-film-stock-do-you-shoot-at-night-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4321533'>More sharing options...
250swb Posted November 27, 2021 Share #164 Posted November 27, 2021 8 hours ago, Steven said: The advantage of 500T is that it has a remjet layer that avoid the light halos of cinestill. I may be misreading you, but unless there is another 500T film in the world the Cinestill 500T does have the Remjet layer removed. The Remjet layer of movie films was to stop abrasion as the film passed quickly through the film gate, but it requires a special process to remove it before the film can be processed normally in C41 chemicals, hence the niche market Cinestill inhabit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share #165 Posted November 27, 2021 1 hour ago, 250swb said: I may be misreading you, but unless there is another 500T film in the world the Cinestill 500T does have the Remjet layer removed. The Remjet layer of movie films was to stop abrasion as the film passed quickly through the film gate, but it requires a special process to remove it before the film can be processed normally in C41 chemicals, hence the niche market Cinestill inhabit. Cinestill 800 has the rem jet layer removed. The Vision 3 500T stock I'm using, and posting on this thread, is a true cinefilm, bought and processed in Europe. It does have a rem jet layer. The film itself is matte looking, not shiny like Portra or Cinestill. In the lab where I have it processed, they remove the rem jet layer, and then they develop it in ECN 2. You can see on the images I posted that they don't produces this strong red halos around highlights that cinestill is none for, and that I dislike more and more the more I see it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted November 27, 2021 Share #166 Posted November 27, 2021 1 hour ago, 250swb said: the Cinestill 500T does have the Remjet layer removed. that's correct cinestill is simply vision 2/3 without the remjet Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share #167 Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 7 minutes ago, frame-it said: that's correct cinestill is simply vision 2/3 without the remjet Sure. But my vision 3 is a full 3. Edited November 27, 2021 by Steven Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted November 27, 2021 Share #168 Posted November 27, 2021 25 minutes ago, Steven said: Sure. But my vision 3 is a full 3. yes i meant vision 2 or 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Warwick Posted November 28, 2021 Share #169 Posted November 28, 2021 Which film stock do you shoot at night ? .....Fuji Acros, given its reciprocity response. For this scene that metered at 2 minutes, I didn't need to make any further adjustment ...2 mins was still 2 mins. There is weird stuff going on with this compressed jpeg (the original drum scan off 5x4 is rather better!), but you get the idea of the benefit I found of using Acros at night Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/324550-which-film-stock-do-you-shoot-at-night-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4321719'>More sharing options...
Jon Warwick Posted November 28, 2021 Share #170 Posted November 28, 2021 For night shots, I prefer it when it's not properly dark .....instead I like to shoot at dusk, just after the lights come on. Later than that, and I find it's so dark that everything becomes too contrasty. Another example here better shows what i mean. Fuji Acros (again on 5x4) also found this easy, exposure here was closer to 15 seconds from what i recall .... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/324550-which-film-stock-do-you-shoot-at-night-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4321723'>More sharing options...
Jon Warwick Posted November 28, 2021 Share #171 Posted November 28, 2021 Final example. Dusk arrives ....bridge lights turn on .....action! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/324550-which-film-stock-do-you-shoot-at-night-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4321726'>More sharing options...
Steven Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share #172 Posted November 28, 2021 13 hours ago, 250swb said: I may be misreading you, but unless there is another 500T film in the world the Cinestill 500T does have the Remjet layer removed. The Remjet layer of movie films was to stop abrasion as the film passed quickly through the film gate, but it requires a special process to remove it before the film can be processed normally in C41 chemicals, hence the niche market Cinestill inhabit. Also, here's the link, if you're interested to try the stock. I like their 200T a lot... https://silbersalz35.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted November 28, 2021 Share #173 Posted November 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Steven said: Also, here's the link, if you're interested to try the stock. I like their 200T a lot... https://silbersalz35.com Thanks, it looks like they've made an interesting alternative business model from Cinestill, but I like to process my own colour film. And I still have the nagging doubt from what I've seen (present company excepted) that using unadulterated cine film is more about showmanship than better results. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted November 28, 2021 Share #174 Posted November 28, 2021 Nick Carver does a lot of medium/large format film shooting at night, and is known for his well done YouTube presentations. Here he makes some interesting comments about trying Cinestill 800T (after about the 9 min mark or so)… Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share #175 Posted November 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Jeff S said: Nick Carver does a lot of medium/large format film shooting at night, and is known for his well done YouTube presentations. Here he makes some interesting comments about trying Cinestill 800T (after about the 9 min mark or so)… Jeff Thanks for the link Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share #176 Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) Cinestill, F1.4, 1/60th Guessed the focus from the hip trough a restaurant window, but I still got caught! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited November 28, 2021 by Steven Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/324550-which-film-stock-do-you-shoot-at-night-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4322154'>More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted November 28, 2021 Share #177 Posted November 28, 2021 On 9/15/2021 at 6:59 AM, Steven said: I’m seriously considering to ditch digital for 99% of my photography and going back almost exclusively to film.... ... im looking for higher speed to match my digital use. To have decent photo at night at so called film stock, you need flash. Or you need insane large apertures, which are useless to bring the content in focus. Or you need to push @ well above 800. But. Using flash and insane large apertures is still common for digital. And high ISO is still nothing special on digital, crooked colors and else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted December 19, 2021 Author Share #178 Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) Slowly learning to make it work. Slowly learning to hate digital at night. Cinestill 800, no push, no metering. 1/30th. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited December 19, 2021 by Steven Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/324550-which-film-stock-do-you-shoot-at-night-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4335298'>More sharing options...
Steven Posted December 27, 2021 Author Share #179 Posted December 27, 2021 Portra 800 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/324550-which-film-stock-do-you-shoot-at-night-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4339602'>More sharing options...
Steven Posted December 27, 2021 Author Share #180 Posted December 27, 2021 Cinetstill 800 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/324550-which-film-stock-do-you-shoot-at-night-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4339603'>More sharing options...
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