New Leica M6 Film Camera

[Huss]

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live view is evf.  one is on the back of the camera, the other is a vf.  Both operate as live view.

[madNbad]

The latest batch of Voigtlander Ultrons focus to .05. Really good on a film body even better on an SL-2 but this thread is about a new film Leica.

[Huss]

Just now, Al Brown said:

Display is not a viewfinder. "An electronic viewfinder (EVF) is a camera viewfinder where the image captured by the lens is displayed on a small screen (usually LCD or OLED) which the photographer can look through when composing their shot. It differs from a live preview screen in being smaller and shaded from ambient light".

yeah I get that.  but they both operate as live view - you are seeing what the sensor is seeing. whether your view of it is shaded or not.  

[Huss]

3 minutes ago, madNbad said:

The latest batch of Voigtlander Ultrons focus to .05. Really good on a film body even better on an SL-2 but this thread is about a new film Leica.

yeah, and no film Leica is going to focus closer than .7m with the rangefinder.

Leica is not introducing these new lenses for film Ms, but for their digital market.  Being able to use it on a film M is a bonus, even if you cannot focus closer than .7m using the RF.

[a.noctilux]

Out of topic, just kind of reminder.

Since 1958, in M mount Super-Angulon 4/21, MFD 40cm, so why not now.

 

[madNbad]

36 minutes ago, Huss said:

yeah, and no film Leica is going to focus closer than .7m with the rangefinder.

Leica is not introducing these new lenses for film Ms, but for their digital market.  Being able to use it on a film M is a bonus, even if you cannot focus closer than .7m using the RF.

Leica has been modifying lenses for digital since the introduction of the M8 and this is the next step. It's still a pain for those of us use to the hard stop at minimum focus. 

[James Lu]

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Film experience is totally different than digital. I shoot M11 and also MP and M3. They are totally different shooting experience. I thought my MP would be able to replace M3, but I was wrong. M3 can never be replaced by any other film cameras. Film now is a more or less niche market. I also shoot Contax T3 and sometimes Nikon EM or FG (in my humble opinion, shooting a 50 dollar Nikon EM is a much better experience than the Contax T3). It's all about experience and feelings. So if there has to be a new film Leica coming out, it better has more to do with the shooting experience...

[hdmesa]

5 hours ago, jsrockit said:

Huh? have you looked at the 90s to Early 2000 P&S prices lately?  Contax T2 and T3, Leica CM?  

What was being discussed that I was reacting to was a "film Q" with a fixed lens, which to me screams "cheap relabeled Panasonic film camera".

[logan2z]

More speculation.  This guy seems to imply he has some sort of inside information.

https://www.macfilos.com/2022/09/12/new-leica-film-camera-to-be-announced-in-october/

This seems to be the most interesting bit:

"My information is that the new camera will be a remake of the M6 Classic. The MP, although similar to the M6 Classic, is more expensive to manufacture because of the brass top plate."

So, does that mean that they're actually going to re-release the M6 with the original zinc top plate??  

[adan]

57 minutes ago, logan2z said:

So, does that mean that they're actually going to re-release the M6 with the original zinc top plate??  

Or steel. Or aluminum (see black M11). Or titanium. Or magnesium. Or an alloy of those.

Take a look at the periodic table sometime - there are lots of suitable metals in existence.

[logan2z]

1 hour ago, adan said:

Or steel. Or aluminum (see black M11). Or titanium. Or magnesium. Or an alloy of those.

Take a look at the periodic table sometime - there are lots of suitable metals in existence.

Apparently you have no sense of humor.

[madNbad]

19 minutes ago, logan2z said:

Apparently you have no sense of humor.

I'm hoping for plastic and a shutter speed dial that turns in the opposite direction.

[ianman]

4 hours ago, logan2z said:

More speculation.  This guy seems to imply he has some sort of inside information.

https://www.macfilos.com/2022/09/12/new-leica-film-camera-to-be-announced-in-october/

This seems to be the most interesting bit:

"My information is that the new camera will be a remake of the M6 Classic. The MP, although similar to the M6 Classic, is more expensive to manufacture because of the brass top plate."

Nothing new, except maybe a vague guess at the release date, all that information was revealed here since January. M6, limited edition, not substantially cheaper than current models.

 

[jakontil]

1 hour ago, ianman said:

Nothing new, except maybe a vague guess at the release date, all that information was revealed here since January. M6, limited edition, not substantially cheaper than current models.

 

Going back to this thread, an M6 in limited run of production, most likely going to be brass materials at least, apology to zinc n bubble lovers 

[Ouroboros]

6 hours ago, logan2z said:

More speculation.  This guy seems to imply he has some sort of inside information.

https://www.macfilos.com/2022/09/12/new-leica-film-camera-to-be-announced-in-october/

This seems to be the most interesting bit:

"My information is that the new camera will be a remake of the M6 Classic. The MP, although similar to the M6 Classic, is more expensive to manufacture because of the brass top plate."

So, does that mean that they're actually going to re-release the M6 with the original zinc top plate??  

You could have conceived a child and be changing  it's nappies by now in the time since that 'news' hit the street.

 

Edited September 15, 2022 by Ouroboros

[ianman]

They are probably all sold already anyway.

[Sunyforreal]

I may be in the minority, but if I wanted an M6 classic from Leica, I would just… buy an M6. I know they’re getting on in age but you can still find great M6’s for at or around $2500.

What I really want is for Leica to bring something new to the table. Seriously. Anything. Even if it’s a somewhat minor feature.

Edited September 15, 2022 by Sunyforreal

[Anbaric]

Anyone looking for significant innovation in a series of cameras that make a virtue of not changing much since the 1960s has probably bought into the wrong system. I doubt we are likely to see much that you couldn't have had with an à la carte MP, whatever they label it. Reverting to zinc probably makes little sense today - what was cheap in the 1980s may not have the same price advantage today, now that sophisticated CNC machines for working on brass exist, and the zinc moulding equipment they formerly used might no longer be available at the factory. We have seen a claim in another thread that Leica has already made replacement brass top plates for M6s afflicted by zinc corrosion. But who knows, perhaps we'll be surprised.

[a.noctilux]

Just an idea, but the new film M features are already "done".

Why not top plate in aluminium alloy, I'm happy with my very light M262 since start, really tough, nothing to complain.

Base plate must stay in brass for strength ( if it's base open ? ).

🙈

Anyway, I'm sure that Leica will surprise us.

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[adan]

10 hours ago, logan2z said:

Apparently you have no sense of humor.

Au contraire. mon ami.

I laugh all the time when non-engineers try to do camera engineering. Funniest thing on the internet outside of UTube videos of dogs trying to chew toffee.