madNbad Posted September 10, 2022 Share #181 Posted September 10, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, AvidArchRivals said: If there's a new lens, my bet is it's a collapsible 50mm reissue and updated for digital. I have a 50 mm 2.0 Heliar collapsible that was split from the 250th Anniversary set. It doesn't collapse very much and there are no half stops for 11 or 16 but it's a good lens on film, never tried it on digital. Can't wait for the October surprise! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Crem Posted September 10, 2022 Share #182 Posted September 10, 2022 1 hour ago, AvidArchRivals said: If there's a new lens, my bet is it's a collapsible 50mm reissue and updated for digital. Wouldn’t that be very similar to Elmar-M 50 2.8 re-issue? I expect something with a much higher profit margin. They reissued the 50 noct 1.2 so that’s why I think an expensive 35 reissue makes the most sense. The steel rim or the double aspherical is what I’m betting on. They could charge a ton for either of them and they would still be cheaper than what the originals go for on the used market. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madNbad Posted September 10, 2022 Share #183 Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) So far, the speculation has brought us an updated M6 with a electronic shutter and a 1/4000th top speed. Perhaps in an entirely new, updated body, paired with a new version of the exceedingly rare steel rim 35 Summilux and a collapsible 50 Summicron (optimized for digital, just for good measure) as our October release. Now with that fairly high bar, a warmed over CM would be disappointing. Sometimes you have to dream big. Edited September 10, 2022 by madNbad Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvidArchRivals Posted September 10, 2022 Share #184 Posted September 10, 2022 50 minutes ago, Crem said: Wouldn’t that be very similar to Elmar-M 50 2.8 re-issue? I expect something with a much higher profit margin. They reissued the 50 noct 1.2 so that’s why I think an expensive 35 reissue makes the most sense. The steel rim or the double aspherical is what I’m betting on. They could charge a ton for either of them and they would still be cheaper than what the originals go for on the used market. Yes. My basis for thinking so is because in the last Leica charity auctions there was a gold MP with the Elmar-M. Produced in 2020. It leads me to imagine Leica has revived the production process for that lens and was in development since 2020. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crem Posted September 10, 2022 Share #185 Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, madNbad said: So far, the speculation has brought us an updated M6 with a electronic shutter and a 1/4000th top speed. Perhaps in an entirely new, updated body, paired with a new version of the exceedingly rare steel rim 35 Summilux and a collapsible 50 Summicron (optimized for digital, just for good measure) as our October release. Now with that fairly high bar, a warmed over CM would be disappointing. Sometimes you have to dream big. Good thing LUF doesn’t have built in rumors gambling. I imagine I would lose a lot of money 😂 I’m betting on… October: no new film M camera, the SL3 with a new prime lens, and a re-issue vintage 35mm M lens. They would make a fortune re-issuing a 35 1.4 limited edition in black paint and general availability in silver. Plus it would likely be easier to manufacturer than a 35 APO M. Easy money for Leica. 2023: M6 classic remake. Edited September 10, 2022 by Crem 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Brown Posted September 10, 2022 Share #186 Posted September 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Crem said: The steel rim or the double aspherical is what I’m betting on. I know exactly why you are betting on this lens, haha. There is a little birdie... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefse Posted September 10, 2022 Share #187 Posted September 10, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) It would make more sense to bring a new compact 35mm autofocus film camera to market. It’s cheaper to make, easier for (younger) people to use, and doesn’t have to cost $5 000. The reason Kodak has doubled film sales since 2015, isn’t Leica M shooters. An updated aluminium CM? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Brown Posted September 10, 2022 Share #188 Posted September 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, lefse said: and doesn’t have to cost $5 000. It does not have to but it would... It's a Leicaaaaa 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted September 10, 2022 Share #189 Posted September 10, 2022 Production for the new camera will be simple and cheap. They will just yell to João to come back to port and screw some together. Because everything is made in Portugal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted September 10, 2022 Share #190 Posted September 10, 2022 8 hours ago, lefse said: It would make more sense to bring a new compact 35mm autofocus film camera to market. It’s cheaper to make, easier for (younger) people to use, and doesn’t have to cost $5 000. The reason Kodak has doubled film sales since 2015, isn’t Leica M shooters. An updated aluminium CM? Someone is trying to sell a CM for almost $4k on fredmiranda.com. Not even in ‘mint’ condition. A new $2k CM type camera would do well. It’s really amazing how Leica warps our ideas as to what is good value! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madNbad Posted September 10, 2022 Share #191 Posted September 10, 2022 I’m sure over at the Sony forum they’re speculating if the A7V will come loaded with Netflix. 1 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan2z Posted September 10, 2022 Share #192 Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) And if you can't wait to see what Leica has in store re: a new film camera - if anything - Leica Store Miami has a new silver MP in stock (no affiliation). Edited September 10, 2022 by logan2z Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted September 10, 2022 Share #193 Posted September 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Huss said: Someone is trying to sell a CM for almost $4k on fredmiranda.com. Not even in ‘mint’ condition. A new $2k CM type camera would do well. It’s really amazing how Leica warps our ideas as to what is good value! There is no way it'll be $2000 though... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltron Posted September 10, 2022 Share #194 Posted September 10, 2022 I was in a local second hand camera shop that specialises in Leica today. We chatted about the rumours and they seemed very sure that it was an M6 Classic limited reissue. No tweaks, no higher shutter speeds and a limited run. They weren't sure if it would be sold bundled with a lens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted September 10, 2022 Share #195 Posted September 10, 2022 14 hours ago, Crem said: Good thing LUF doesn’t have built in rumors gambling. I imagine I would lose a lot of money 😂 I’m betting on… October: no new film M camera, the SL3 with a new prime lens, and a re-issue vintage 35mm M lens. They would make a fortune re-issuing a 35 1.4 limited edition in black paint and general availability in silver. Plus it would likely be easier to manufacturer than a 35 APO M. Easy money for Leica. 2023: M6 classic remake. Leica should restrict the limited numbers to silver like they did with the 50 1.2 Noct, because who cares about the silver. Let the rest of us mere mortals have access to the black paint lenses, FFS. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted September 10, 2022 Share #196 Posted September 10, 2022 1 hour ago, waltron said: I was in a local second hand camera shop that specialises in Leica today. We chatted about the rumours and they seemed very sure that it was an M6 Classic limited reissue. No tweaks, no higher shutter speeds and a limited run. They weren't sure if it would be sold bundled with a lens. Doesn’t it seem that Leica bundles all it’s limited edition cameras w a lens? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan2z Posted September 10, 2022 Share #197 Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, waltron said: I was in a local second hand camera shop that specialises in Leica today. We chatted about the rumours and they seemed very sure that it was an M6 Classic limited reissue. No tweaks, no higher shutter speeds and a limited run. They weren't sure if it would be sold bundled with a lens. Still not sure I get the rationale behind re-releasing an M6 of any kind when the MP already exists. What's the point? Edited September 10, 2022 by logan2z 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted September 11, 2022 Share #198 Posted September 11, 2022 2 hours ago, logan2z said: Still not sure I get the rationale behind re-releasing an M6 of any kind when the MP already exists. What's the point? I agree, the only point would be to cash in. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crem Posted September 11, 2022 Share #199 Posted September 11, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, logan2z said: Still not sure I get the rationale behind re-releasing an M6 of any kind when the MP already exists. What's the point? 20th anniversary of when it was discontinued. I think close to 40 year anniversary from when it was launched. Leica cares a lot about heritage so it seems like a smart business decision. I might have the dates slightly incorrect. Pretty sure 2023 and 2024 are the years, but I don’t recall exactly. Edited September 11, 2022 by Crem 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted September 11, 2022 Share #200 Posted September 11, 2022 Most likely thing being commemorated here is used M6 prices hitting $3500 😌😂 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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