New Leica M6 Film Camera

[johnwolf]

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7 hours ago, Jeremy Bunting said:

I just purchased a Leica M2 to compliment my M11. I'm assuming the new film model will cost many times what the M2 cost me ($1400 w/ recent CLA by YYe), so hopefully the fomo won't be too severe. 

It's my first film camera, so I can't justify a huge spend so soon after the M11. 

Did I make a mistake?

How nice. Congratulations. Bur yes, you made a mistake....getting the M11.

Seriously, enjoy! And by all means, give BW home processing a try.

John

[madNbad]

12 minutes ago, BradS said:

Ah, yes. I get it now. I apologize for taking things too seriously. 

Thanks for the information. It’s not like I did any actual research into modern camera construction. I just really like the idea of a modern M body. 

[Sunyforreal]

2 hours ago, madNbad said:

Thanks for the information. It’s not like I did any actual research into modern camera construction. I just really like the idea of a modern M body. 

Let’s be real. Most Leica’s are made out of at least 50% unobtainium 

[Huss]

I feel like I need to be put out of my misery.  One way or another I need to know..  And I am not even sure why!

[Casual_photo_enjoyer]

I’m excited for this but I think whatever it is getting hold of one is going to be the real disappointment. 

[ianman]

1 hour ago, Huss said:

I feel like I need to be put out of my misery.  One way or another I need to know..  And I am not even sure why!

I could understand why photographers who could never afford a Leica film body would be excited IF the rumoured camera becomes reality at a much lower price. Which is seriously doubt btw. But why are people here getting all excited. Like you, I cannot understand it. We already own probably a number of Leica film bodies and it would seem a lot of us also have beautiful Nikons, so what would a new body with most likely zero new features bring us?

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1 hour ago, ianman said:

I could understand why photographers who could never afford a Leica film body would be excited IF the rumoured camera becomes reality at a much lower price. Which is seriously doubt btw. But why are people here getting all excited. Like you, I cannot understand it. We already own probably a number of Leica film bodies and it would seem a lot of us also have beautiful Nikons, so what would a new body with most likely zero new features bring us?

As film shooters it benefits us to have other people coming into the hobby and having an overall healthy film camera/product ecosystem.  It means more film stocks could be developed or revived, more darkrooms open, more knowledge and energy coming into the industry.  Even if I never buy a lesser expensive new film M I think that it benefits me if it exists because I don't live in a bubble.

[Casual_photo_enjoyer]

2 hours ago, ianman said:

I could understand why photographers who could never afford a Leica film body would be excited IF the rumoured camera becomes reality at a much lower price. Which is seriously doubt btw. But why are people here getting all excited. Like you, I cannot understand it. We already own probably a number of Leica film bodies and it would seem a lot of us also have beautiful Nikons, so what would a new body with most likely zero new features bring us?

I’m excited because IF the price is lower than the current M’s it will give people a chance to own a repairable metered M body rather than having to rely on paying over the top prices for used  un repairable M6’s as is the case now. 

[Casual_photo_enjoyer]

Also let’s be honest - they Leica hype is only growing and if they have any sense they will be producing cameras faster and quicker than previously if they want to capitalise on the current uptrend. imo. 

[Anbaric]

On 9/19/2022 at 6:41 PM, FilmSpiel said:

I‘m sorry that all doesnt make sense to me. And it would be the First time since years (summarits) that Leica will sell a budget product.

but anyways. I told my camera store to get on a black list, in case something like that exists for a new analog modell 😀

Leica's idea of 'budget' may well be 95% of the current price.

[jakontil]

9 hours ago, ianman said:

I could understand why photographers who could never afford a Leica film body would be excited IF the rumoured camera becomes reality at a much lower price. Which is seriously doubt btw. But why are people here getting all excited. Like you, I cannot understand it. We already own probably a number of Leica film bodies and it would seem a lot of us also have beautiful Nikons, so what would a new body with most likely zero new features bring us?

I have multiple bodies, and still excited, feeding my GAS with dreams, and it remains a dream, my pocket is chocked 

[LocalHero1953]

I have enough film bodies and don't want any more. My challenges are how to take interesting photos, not on the tech side.

A film camera is just a box that doesn't influence image quality in the same way that a digital body does. I'm curious to see how Leica can produce something that is different enough from the MA and MP to be interesting (and worth their while making), but no more than curious.

[SJH]

1 hour ago, LocalHero1953 said:

I have enough film bodies and don't want any more. My challenges are how to take interesting photos, not on the tech side.

A film camera is just a box that doesn't influence image quality in the same way that a digital body does. I'm curious to see how Leica can produce something that is different enough from the MA and MP to be interesting (and worth their while making), but no more than curious.

I think this is where I am also but listening to the very faint comments from people probably in the know I think one of two options are likely to appear:

1. A new 'M6' using MP parts but the M6 form, winder etc and not using brass, slightly cheaper price as a result to the MA & MP plus a different finish.

2. As above but with features to take Leica film camera's forward e.g. 1/4000 shutter speed, aperture priority, no brass = less weight, different finish - so an M6 form but a hybrid (M7 & MP).

I hope it's 2 as I can't work out commercially why 1 would really work, very faint hints are it could be 2 given how Leica are taking their camera's forward e.g. M11, SL2-S, Q2M etc.

I have an MP so if it's 1 I can't really see the need to buy it for just another 'MP/MA' style film box. Equally though they can't make enough MP's right now so how does that fit into production unless they drop either the MA, MP or both?

[mtomalty]

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Edited September 21, 2022 by mtomalty
I had inaccurate informed. Sorry

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4 hours ago, SJH said:

I think this is where I am also but listening to the very faint comments from people probably in the know I think one of two options are likely to appear:

1. A new 'M6' using MP parts but the M6 form, winder etc and not using brass, slightly cheaper price as a result to the MA & MP plus a different finish.

2. As above but with features to take Leica film camera's forward e.g. 1/4000 shutter speed, aperture priority, no brass = less weight, different finish - so an M6 form but a hybrid (M7 & MP).

I hope it's 2 as I can't work out commercially why 1 would really work, very faint hints are it could be 2 given how Leica are taking their camera's forward e.g. M11, SL2-S, Q2M etc.

I have an MP so if it's 1 I can't really see the need to buy it for just another 'MP/MA' style film box. Equally though they can't make enough MP's right now so how does that fit into production unless they drop either the MA, MP or both?

I wonder how much of a discount all that would be over an MP. It would still be hand assembled after all.

If there is a "cheaper" M coming, my guess would be it's to make the inevitable price increase for MA/MP more palatable.

[Casual_photo_enjoyer]

5 hours ago, SJH said:

I think this is where I am also but listening to the very faint comments from people probably in the know I think one of two options are likely to appear:

1. A new 'M6' using MP parts but the M6 form, winder etc and not using brass, slightly cheaper price as a result to the MA & MP plus a different finish.

2. As above but with features to take Leica film camera's forward e.g. 1/4000 shutter speed, aperture priority, no brass = less weight, different finish - so an M6 form but a hybrid (M7 & MP).

I hope it's 2 as I can't work out commercially why 1 would really work, very faint hints are it could be 2 given how Leica are taking their camera's forward e.g. M11, SL2-S, Q2M etc.

I have an MP so if it's 1 I can't really see the need to buy it for just another 'MP/MA' style film box. Equally though they can't make enough MP's right now so how does that fit into production unless they drop either the MA, MP or both?

I mean yeah, commercially the ideal lineup would be : a film m with aperture priority for those who want to shoot the form factor and with a rangefinder but who don’t necessarily want to have to sunny 16 everything. Then a purely mechanical M, no meter and the same with a meter. That way they have covered all bases and can appeal to all shooters. That is a purely commercial model with the idea to cater for all shooters, now we don’t know if they even want to cater to all shooters or are happy to stay niche though their involvement and investment into the digital side shows they are forward thinking. So let’s see, not too long now. 

Edited September 21, 2022 by Casual_photo_enjoyer

[Huss]

14 minutes ago, Casual_photo_enjoyer said:

I mean yeah, commercially the ideal lineup would be : a film m with aperture priority for those who want to shoot the form factor and with a rangefinder but who don’t necessarily want to have to sunny 16 everything. Then a purely mechanical M, no meter and the same with a meter. That way they have covered all bases and can appeal to all shooters. That is a purely commercial model with the idea to cater for all shooters, now we don’t know if they even want to cater to all shooters or are happy to stay niche though their involvement and investment into the digital side shows they are forward thinking. So let’s see, not too long now. 

Leica already had that lineup with the M7 and MP.  They pulled the M7 because there were not enough buyers.  People wanted a mechanical M.  So I cannot see them reintroducing an AE M, no matter how much I like the M7.

It seems it will be a limited edition M6 - the 23rd limited edition M6! - which frankly would achieve nothing long term, or a new CM.

A new CM makes sense, which means it will most probably be the M6 that gets released…

[hdmesa]

With all the film marketing Leica has been putting out recently, I'm starting to think we'll get more than one new film camera over the next year or two. I think they may be planning to repurpose the production capacity for the dead APS-C line over to film: 

• M6 Classic re-issue (limited and non-limited models)
• MP and M-A refresh, perhaps merged into a single model
• Film CL reissue
• Film P&S

 

[ianman]

26 minutes ago, hdmesa said:

• MP and M-A refresh, perhaps merged into a single model

An M-A with a battery?

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43 minutes ago, ianman said:

An M-A with a battery?

M6 with option by user using or not the meter.

Just to go to same line as often people who wrote "with MP take out the battery = M-A "...