Fotoklaus Posted September 9, 2022 Share #161 Posted September 9, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) vor einer Stunde schrieb patrickjames: After looking at that picture on the previous page, note how they are hiding the shutter with film. I am guessing a regular shutter instead of a cloth shutter and the electronics to run it. That would be nice. Faster shutter speeds. Faster flash sync. Auto exposure. The whole traditional thing is worn out in my opinion. If they did that then they could disengage the shutter from a motor drive. Win win. You mean Features from 40 Years ago to be announced as "leica-new"? 🙂 I think the "traditional-thing" is the only reason to buy a new film- Leica. The M7 was already 25 Years too late (and marked almost the end of Leica...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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T25UFO Posted September 9, 2022 Share #162 Posted September 9, 2022 18 hours ago, Al Brown said: Leica Camera has just sent out a newsleter with content & links completely dedicated to film photography. a VERY clear message that something analog is coming. "It goes without saying that Leica's heritage is in film and the love for the essentials of photography. Visit our website to see tips and stories from the realm of analog photography, that every film enthusiast should know. Because understanding the basics is essential for creating images with a unique aura, that no one can resist." Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! That was a clever bit of marketing . . . the hand holding the Leica film camera appears to have an Apple Watch! Old and modern? Or am I reading too much into this? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunyforreal Posted September 9, 2022 Share #163 Posted September 9, 2022 3 hours ago, grahamc said: Whilst this is purely a complete guess, I'm going with : Interchangeable lens camera, replacing Leica MP Design styling circa updated M6. But really M6/MP who cares. Updated shutter 1/4000 No glossy/traditional black paint option. Materials & coatings shared with M11- meaning also that (like M11) the finish will be called 'black paint', but look like black chrome. Product/Marketing info will stress scratch-resistance/durability, instead of brassing/'memories' No meaningful upgrade to MP viewfinder No baseplate (OK that was a joke but wow just imagine) Lighter than current film M, or at least the black one A-priority mode I'm unsure but I'm going with 'probable'. I don't really care for any of these btw other than 1/4000 but am excited to see what they put out . What are other ideas for updates (realistic ones) that Leica might feel would 'revolutionise' a film M ? Ima throw what I said earlier in again, all Leica needs to do is make an M version of the FM3a and I would be ecstatic. 1/4000th, AE with full electronic AND full mechanical control at all shutter speeds. I think that would be all it takes to make the best film rangefinder camera ever made. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted September 9, 2022 Share #164 Posted September 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sunyforreal said: Ima throw what I said earlier in again, all Leica needs to do is make an M version of the FM3a and I would be ecstatic. 1/4000th, AE with full electronic AND full mechanical control at all shutter speeds. I think that would be all it takes to make the best film rangefinder camera ever made. I won't argue with that, sounds great 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colint544 Posted September 9, 2022 Share #165 Posted September 9, 2022 Leica's business model trades heavily on its heritage, and the M camera is at the heart of that. In the past ten years or so, they've scarcely put a foot wrong, and managed to pull their company back from the brink. There seems little doubt now that a new M model will be added to the stable. Might they consolidate the M-P and the M-A into a single model which appeals to younger enthusiasts? It could cut down on the overheads. Might there be a red dot? I think so. But if they re-imagine the film M, give it a metal-bladed shutter, 1/4000th second shutter speed, auto exposure, or even a millimetre thicker or taller dimensions to the body, I think they undermine their legacy. I just can't see it. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted September 9, 2022 Share #166 Posted September 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, colint544 said: . There seems little doubt now that a new M model will be added to the stable... Little doubt? We have no idea, it's all rumors and wishful thinking. On my part too. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crem Posted September 9, 2022 Share #167 Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, Al Brown said: Think of a possible new lens as well. Summilux 35 steel rim re-issue that normal humans can actually afford. I'm already trying to get on waitlists. Edited September 9, 2022 by Crem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crem Posted September 9, 2022 Share #168 Posted September 9, 2022 Just now, Al Brown said: Have you had any success ☺️ and how much is this affordable price 🙂? The affordable comment was mostly a joke. I think a steel rim re-issue for $5k USD would be sold out for a long time. I guess I'd call that "affordable" in Leica dollars 😀 Realistically... I think they would charge more than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvidArchRivals Posted September 10, 2022 Share #169 Posted September 10, 2022 If there's a new lens, my bet is it's a collapsible 50mm reissue and updated for digital. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madNbad Posted September 10, 2022 Share #170 Posted September 10, 2022 1 hour ago, AvidArchRivals said: If there's a new lens, my bet is it's a collapsible 50mm reissue and updated for digital. I have a 50 mm 2.0 Heliar collapsible that was split from the 250th Anniversary set. It doesn't collapse very much and there are no half stops for 11 or 16 but it's a good lens on film, never tried it on digital. Can't wait for the October surprise! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crem Posted September 10, 2022 Share #171 Posted September 10, 2022 1 hour ago, AvidArchRivals said: If there's a new lens, my bet is it's a collapsible 50mm reissue and updated for digital. Wouldn’t that be very similar to Elmar-M 50 2.8 re-issue? I expect something with a much higher profit margin. They reissued the 50 noct 1.2 so that’s why I think an expensive 35 reissue makes the most sense. The steel rim or the double aspherical is what I’m betting on. They could charge a ton for either of them and they would still be cheaper than what the originals go for on the used market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madNbad Posted September 10, 2022 Share #172 Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) So far, the speculation has brought us an updated M6 with a electronic shutter and a 1/4000th top speed. Perhaps in an entirely new, updated body, paired with a new version of the exceedingly rare steel rim 35 Summilux and a collapsible 50 Summicron (optimized for digital, just for good measure) as our October release. Now with that fairly high bar, a warmed over CM would be disappointing. Sometimes you have to dream big. Edited September 10, 2022 by madNbad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvidArchRivals Posted September 10, 2022 Share #173 Posted September 10, 2022 50 minutes ago, Crem said: Wouldn’t that be very similar to Elmar-M 50 2.8 re-issue? I expect something with a much higher profit margin. They reissued the 50 noct 1.2 so that’s why I think an expensive 35 reissue makes the most sense. The steel rim or the double aspherical is what I’m betting on. They could charge a ton for either of them and they would still be cheaper than what the originals go for on the used market. Yes. My basis for thinking so is because in the last Leica charity auctions there was a gold MP with the Elmar-M. Produced in 2020. It leads me to imagine Leica has revived the production process for that lens and was in development since 2020. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crem Posted September 10, 2022 Share #174 Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, madNbad said: So far, the speculation has brought us an updated M6 with a electronic shutter and a 1/4000th top speed. Perhaps in an entirely new, updated body, paired with a new version of the exceedingly rare steel rim 35 Summilux and a collapsible 50 Summicron (optimized for digital, just for good measure) as our October release. Now with that fairly high bar, a warmed over CM would be disappointing. Sometimes you have to dream big. Good thing LUF doesn’t have built in rumors gambling. I imagine I would lose a lot of money 😂 I’m betting on… October: no new film M camera, the SL3 with a new prime lens, and a re-issue vintage 35mm M lens. They would make a fortune re-issuing a 35 1.4 limited edition in black paint and general availability in silver. Plus it would likely be easier to manufacturer than a 35 APO M. Easy money for Leica. 2023: M6 classic remake. Edited September 10, 2022 by Crem 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefse Posted September 10, 2022 Share #175 Posted September 10, 2022 It would make more sense to bring a new compact 35mm autofocus film camera to market. It’s cheaper to make, easier for (younger) people to use, and doesn’t have to cost $5 000. The reason Kodak has doubled film sales since 2015, isn’t Leica M shooters. An updated aluminium CM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted September 10, 2022 Share #176 Posted September 10, 2022 Production for the new camera will be simple and cheap. They will just yell to João to come back to port and screw some together. Because everything is made in Portugal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted September 10, 2022 Share #177 Posted September 10, 2022 8 hours ago, lefse said: It would make more sense to bring a new compact 35mm autofocus film camera to market. It’s cheaper to make, easier for (younger) people to use, and doesn’t have to cost $5 000. The reason Kodak has doubled film sales since 2015, isn’t Leica M shooters. An updated aluminium CM? Someone is trying to sell a CM for almost $4k on fredmiranda.com. Not even in ‘mint’ condition. A new $2k CM type camera would do well. It’s really amazing how Leica warps our ideas as to what is good value! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madNbad Posted September 10, 2022 Share #178 Posted September 10, 2022 I’m sure over at the Sony forum they’re speculating if the A7V will come loaded with Netflix. 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan2z Posted September 10, 2022 Share #179 Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) And if you can't wait to see what Leica has in store re: a new film camera - if anything - Leica Store Miami has a new silver MP in stock (no affiliation). Edited September 10, 2022 by logan2z Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted September 10, 2022 Share #180 Posted September 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Huss said: Someone is trying to sell a CM for almost $4k on fredmiranda.com. Not even in ‘mint’ condition. A new $2k CM type camera would do well. It’s really amazing how Leica warps our ideas as to what is good value! There is no way it'll be $2000 though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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