setuporg Posted June 10, 2022 Share #1 Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Thinking of the stapler sound M11 makes and the imperfect eshutter, we are forgetting that the next generation of eshutters, the perfect ones, will obviate mechanical ones altogether. Imagine that what that camera will feel like. You can already get a preview with Pixii. It's a solid body with a great shutter release, that makes a prerecorded click sound. It feels weird. Enjoy your mechanical shutter while you can. Only film cameras will still have those in a few years. Edited June 10, 2022 by setuporg 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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M11 for me Posted June 10, 2022 Share #2 Posted June 10, 2022 🤐 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbaric Posted June 10, 2022 Share #3 Posted June 10, 2022 <INNOCENTLY>Rangefinders are pretty obsolete too. The M12 just needs a built-in EVF with focus peaking...</INNOCENTLY> 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted June 10, 2022 Share #4 Posted June 10, 2022 focus peaking is b...sh.. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darylgo Posted June 10, 2022 Share #5 Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) I shudder (shutter) at the thought. In other cameras it would be an open and shut issue in short order, on LUF it will be fun. Edited June 10, 2022 by darylgo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share #6 Posted June 10, 2022 Yeah. If you lament the baseplate, lament the shutter! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted June 10, 2022 Share #7 Posted June 10, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 30 minutes ago, Anbaric said: <INNOCENTLY>Rangefinders are pretty obsolete too. The M12 just needs a built-in EVF with focus peaking...</INNOCENTLY> Then the M will finally catch up with my XPro-2 😂 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted June 10, 2022 Share #8 Posted June 10, 2022 Gerade eben schrieb ianman: Then the M will finally catch up with my XPro-2 😂 Do you mean Built Quality? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 10, 2022 Share #9 Posted June 10, 2022 Been using silent mode since 2015 with various mirrorless cameras so i don't expect significant changes but funnily enough the only camera i use almost only in mecha shutter mode is the M11. It is so quiet and well damped that i don't feel the need to switch to silent mode. YMMV. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share #10 Posted June 10, 2022 37 minutes ago, darylgo said: I shudder (shutter) at the thought. In other cameras it would be an open and shut issue in short order, on LUF it will be fun. They'll throw the shut book at eshutterers and tell them to shut it! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simone_DF Posted June 10, 2022 Share #11 Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, setuporg said: Thinking of the stapler sound M11 makes and the imperfect eshutter, we are forgetting that the next generation of eshutters, the perfect ones, will obviate mechanical ones altogether. Imagine that what that camera will feel like. You can already get a preview with Pixii. It's a solid body with a great shutter release, that makes a prerecorded click sound. It feels weird. Can't wait for it! And hopefully they'll get rid of the rangefinder too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share #12 Posted June 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, Simone_DF said: Can't wait for it! And hopefully they'll get rid of the rangefinder too. Heck it will be a Leica-branded leather iPhone case! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted June 10, 2022 Share #13 Posted June 10, 2022 Since M11 is less boring than M10-R, I assume that M12 will be less boring than M11.😁 Replacing the mechanical shutter with a fast electronic shutter would allow adding IBIS, which will likely be, for many, the main reason to upgrade from M11 to M12. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGEND Posted June 10, 2022 Share #14 Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, setuporg said: Thinking of the stapler sound M11 makes and the imperfect eshutter, we are forgetting that the next generation of eshutters, the perfect ones, will obviate mechanical ones altogether. Imagine that what that camera will feel like. You can already get a preview with Pixii. It's a solid body with a great shutter release, that makes a prerecorded click sound. It feels weird. Enjoy your mechanical shutter while you can. Only film cameras will still have those in a few years. Imagine you get prerecorded shutter sound from every Leica M camera model ever made... Even better, from every Leica camera system... Then you can enjoy sound of silence from the electronic shutter if you want. Or sound of music from the Leica M cameras. Or sound of sniper shoot of the SL... Than you can chose whatever you want... Imagine the symphony when you do some exposure bracketing or sequence shooting and for every shoot different camera shutter sound... This will be very confusing for other photographers and Leica M12 will stay interesting camera, unique... Nikola 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted June 10, 2022 Share #15 Posted June 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, LEGEND said: Imagine you get prerecorded shutter sound from every Leica M camera model ever made... Even better, from every Leica camera system... Then you can enjoy sound of silence from the electronic shutter if you want. Or sound of music from the Leica M cameras. Or sound of sniper shoot of the SL... Than you can chose whatever you want... Imagine the symphony when you do some exposure bracketing or sequence shooting and for every shoot different camera shutter sound... This will be very confusing for other photographers and Leica M12 will stay interesting camera, unique... Nikola We need to have also the haptics, not jut the sound of other cameras :). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGEND Posted June 10, 2022 Share #16 Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, SrMi said: We need to have also the haptics, not jut the sound of other cameras :). Something like Taptic Time in Apple Watch perhaps... Or when you press the shutter button you get small electric shock in the finger for haptic feeling. You can adjust yourself the voltage and how long or short this haptic feeling will be. Imagine you set this to max. that way you don't need continuous shooting more. Just set to manual and here we go... Only problem with this is that the battery will deplete much faster than usual. The more you shoot the less capacity is left so you need to find yourself a balance. It is good for calming your mind. Like some kind of meditation or mindfulness.. Just shoot, cunt every shoot and breathe... It is good for stress and anxiety... I will send this ideas of me to the Leica R&D department. Let see if they implement some of them in the next Leica M12... Nikola Edited June 10, 2022 by LEGEND Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 10, 2022 Share #17 Posted June 10, 2022 2 hours ago, M11 for me said: focus peaking is b...sh.. Total and utter bollocks. It is focus aid like any other and quite useful within its limitations as long as the photographer takes the trouble to learn to use it. Obviously it is completely irrelevant for an optical focus system. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 10, 2022 Share #18 Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, setuporg said: Heck it will be a Leica-branded leather iPhone case! Already there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGEND Posted June 10, 2022 Share #19 Posted June 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, OThomas said: Already there I need this Leica-branded leather iPhone case but I don't have iPhone... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted June 11, 2022 Share #20 Posted June 11, 2022 dont forget all aluminum body 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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