Simone_DF Posted November 19, 2021 Share #341  Posted November 19, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 10 minutes ago, aksclix said: The Sony a7c may not be best comparison.. although it’s compact, it’s far from having good ergo.. the grip wasn’t comfortable at all! I found all Leicas to have terrible ergo to be honest, except the SL. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 19, 2021 Posted November 19, 2021 Hi Simone_DF, Take a look here OhOh, future of CL?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Louis Posted November 19, 2021 Share #342  Posted November 19, 2021 Two more screen shots from leica.com. There is no sign of APS-C system in their products lineup ! ... Does it mean anything!?.... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/326136-ohoh-future-of-cl/?do=findComment&comment=4316372'>More sharing options...
lct Posted November 19, 2021 Share #343  Posted November 19, 2021 Only change i see since last time i came here is M240 is not listed anymore but i did not explore all the site. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/326136-ohoh-future-of-cl/?do=findComment&comment=4316378'>More sharing options...
aksclix Posted November 19, 2021 Share #344  Posted November 19, 2021 41 minutes ago, Simone_DF said: I found all Leicas to have terrible ergo to be honest, except the SL. True.. I like the ergo on the S though it’s bulkier 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Dahl Posted November 19, 2021 Share #345 Â Posted November 19, 2021 6 hours ago, Enrique Santa said: I think that you don't understand me. If Leica do what you say, this will be the end of Q and SL line for sure. But it would sell like hot pancakes at Christmas time. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcalchi Posted November 19, 2021 Share #346  Posted November 19, 2021 41 minutes ago, Louis said: Two more screen shots from leica.com. There is no sign of APS-C system in their products lineup ! ... Does it mean anything!?.... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Louis, Shoot man, I see CL lined up and mentioned just like the other cameras on leica-camera.com.  Confused here:). The TL2 too for that matter. Here's what I see on https://leica-camera.com/en-US/photography Screen Shot 2021-11-19 at 10.19.49 AM.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpclee Posted November 19, 2021 Share #347  Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 53 minutes ago, Louis said: Two more screen shots from leica.com. There is no sign of APS-C system in their products lineup ! ... Does it mean anything!?.... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I'm also seeing the APS-C cameras to have been removed from some navigation links where you'd expect to see them.  The landing pages are still there, but some of the links taking you to the landing pages seem to have disappeared. Edited November 19, 2021 by cpclee correction 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted November 19, 2021 Share #348  Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) They are mentioned in another pages but not in lineup!.... Maybe we are getting a little too sensitive about this issue!.... The reason why we need some information to plan our equipment! ... My previous post was a question, not an affirmation! Edited November 19, 2021 by Louis 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted November 19, 2021 Share #349  Posted November 19, 2021 5 hours ago, Louis said: They are mentioned in another pages but not in lineup!.... Maybe we are getting a little too sensitive about this issue!.... The reason why we need some information to plan our equipment! ... My previous post was a question, not an affirmation! perhaps they're making a new page for the CL2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2021 Share #350 Â Posted November 19, 2021 8 hours ago, cirke said: many good ideas and many mistakes , Â a digital Zeiss Ikon would be perfect But that was a rangefinder i thought? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted November 20, 2021 Share #351  Posted November 20, 2021 11 hours ago, steve 1959 said: But that was a rangefinder i thought?  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/326136-ohoh-future-of-cl/?do=findComment&comment=4316781'>More sharing options...
ramarren Posted November 20, 2021 Share #352  Posted November 20, 2021 I'd love to have a digital Kodak Retina IIc... Such a sweet camera to shoot with! And the folder design is great for cycling ... folds flatter and protects the lens when I drop it into my cycling backpack.   G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike1974 Posted November 20, 2021 Share #353  Posted November 20, 2021 23 hours ago, Louis said: They are mentioned in another pages but not in lineup!.... Maybe we are getting a little too sensitive about this issue!.... The reason why we need some information to plan our equipment! ... My previous post was a question, not an affirmation! I'm in France , and I'm looking at the web page , I see that they have changed the design . In the apsc CL and TL still appear but the lenses longer appear . I suppose it's just momentary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devaprem Posted November 20, 2021 Share #354  Posted November 20, 2021 They are back on the French Leica store: https://store.leica-camera.com/fr/fr/objectifs-leica-tl?p=3 but not the German Leica store https://leica-camera.com/de-DE/fotografie/objektive/cl-tl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted November 20, 2021 Share #355 Â Posted November 20, 2021 Leica's website is semi-broken, they published the recent changes too early. All firmware downloads have wrong filenames. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted November 20, 2021 Share #356  Posted November 20, 2021 ??? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/326136-ohoh-future-of-cl/?do=findComment&comment=4317135'>More sharing options...
SrMi Posted November 21, 2021 Share #357  Posted November 21, 2021 3 hours ago, ramarren said: ??? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! If you click on TL-Lenses, you will be able to select CL or TL cameras. At least the Shop Now button works for CL. For APO-Summicron 35mm the Shop Now button leads to 404. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted November 21, 2021 Share #358  Posted November 21, 2021 The original Leica Barnack models sold in quadzillions and it's not surprising why -- there were capable, compact cameras. Today, it's not that hard to produce a sophisticated technical powerhouse of a camera -- but usability and making it reasonably compact seem to be major challenges. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted November 21, 2021 Share #359  Posted November 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, NZDavid said: The original Leica Barnack models sold in quadzillions and it's not surprising why -- there were capable, compact cameras. Well, more like 850,000± over 35 years Remember that Leica only reached S/N 1,000,000 during the M3/M2 production run (1960). https://petapixel.com/2013/09/27/one-millionth-leica-modified-nikon-f3-nasa-camera-auction-westlicht/ But we'll allow for poetic hyperbole. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted November 21, 2021 Share #360  Posted November 21, 2021 1 hour ago, adan said: Well, more like 850,000± over 35 years Remember that Leica only reached S/N 1,000,000 during the M3/M2 production run (1960). https://petapixel.com/2013/09/27/one-millionth-leica-modified-nikon-f3-nasa-camera-auction-westlicht/ But we'll allow for poetic hyperbole. Andy, I've said it a billion times, don't exaggerate! 😉 And yes, we need to beware of statistics because there are all sorts of other factors to consider -- relative cost and income levels over the decades, for example. And yet, I reckon some things don't change and the desire for quality products that are simple to use and that endure, remain.  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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