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5 hours ago, Steven said:

Dumb price. Leica Paris had a mint one fully boxed for 6,600 euros in the summer and it took them over a month to sell it. Dealers list it at 12k, but somehow never offer more than 5 when buying. 

Another two digital camera that raised in price recently are the M10P Safari and the M10D. By the way, leica is reconsidering the possibility of the M11-D after all. 

is that for real steve? the D? im excited

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51 minutes ago, Steven said:

I would love if they release the M11-D, so that I can find an M10-D on the used market! No way I'll be shooting that M11 garbage, screen or no screen. 

What don't you like about the M11? (I've come to regret upgrading from an M10-D myself)

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19 hours ago, Steven said:

1. the shutter

2. the digital, sonyish image it produces. 

0 charm, 0 love for this camera. 

I don't have image quality concern with M11, I found JPG color rendering is more pleasing than M10-R in relatively low ISO.

But I agree with you, shutter sound is horrible. It's like something hollow. Besides, I don't like the black chrome paint finish, it's like fine sand paper, comparing to black paint m10-r and silver paint on brass.

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8 hours ago, Al Brown said:

As far as I know, the insurance would take the price of a brand new camera minus the deductible and amortization from years of use.

You can’t know that without understanding policy details.  Mine, for instance, pays full replacement at the value that I establish, no appraisal or documentation needed.  And, if I neglect to update the value, which I can do at any time, there is an automatic allowance for appreciation up to 50% over the established amount. Plus there’s no deductible, and quite moderate premiums. Coverage is worldwide and includes loss or theft even due to my own stupidity. But the underwriting standards for policy qualification are understandably very, very strict.

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On 9/11/2023 at 8:55 PM, Steven said:

1. the shutter

2. the digital, sonyish image it produces. 

0 charm, 0 love for this camera. 

100% agree.

Sold my M11 and currently deciding between an M10-P White edition (don't judge me) and an M10-R. I just know the experience is going to be what it should be with one of these bodies.

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3 minutes ago, Al Brown said:

I *LOVE* the M10-P white. Would have been my second choice had I not stumbled upon the last brand new M10-P Reporter ever built. Go for it.
I *DO* prefer the M10-R sensor for my type of work so I have one of those as well in "Steinway" black paint.

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Yep that is my doubt - the M10M sensor was my favourite and so I am wary of going for the P and not the R… 

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12 minutes ago, Steven said:

Go for the M10P. It's the most pleasing image out of any digital M aside from the M10M. You lose the highlight recovery capacity of the M10R, but you gain useable skin tones. 

Oh this is interesting. Thank you. I am so torn between the two especially after falling in love with the M10M. 
The extra mp would be good for larger prints but then again I am assuming if shot well the P is more than capable of big prints and probably with less noise…

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16 minutes ago, overexposed said:

not judging at all, the white M10-p looks amazing, but therein lies the issue, i wouldnt want to use it but put it on display ^_^

agreed. But I take great care of my gear and think I could happily manage daily use whilst maintaining it well. I found an as new from a trusted reseller with all the original packaging, strap, custom 50/1.4 lens and body, warranty etc for 8.500€ which seems like a (relatively) good deal to me.

And yes. It really does look beautiful.

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