scott kirkpatrick Posted February 18, 2021 Share #121 Posted February 18, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Cmon, let's see at least some pet and kitchen shots... 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 Hi scott kirkpatrick, Take a look here Apo Summicron-sl 28. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
panoreserve Posted February 18, 2021 Share #122 Posted February 18, 2021 vor 22 Minuten schrieb rim_light: surprisingly yes Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Without any additional engraving like „SL 28“ (cf lens hood for 75/90)?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted February 18, 2021 Share #123 Posted February 18, 2021 MTF becomes worse with each stop closed ! No vignetting curves ? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slender Posted February 18, 2021 Share #124 Posted February 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, FrozenInTime said: MTF becomes worse with each stop closed ! No vignetting curves ? That's because we have bonkers Dr Karbe "but why stop down" 🙄philosophy interfering.... he maybe secretly a Sony engineer that never met actual photographers.... "F8 and be there" or Winogrand hyperfocal street photography lovers, beware = it's all about what's out of focus now. Just look at Leica's marketing page for the lens. Even curvature of field is (was) an advantage for 28mm lenses when you shoot street or indoor reportage... where the side of the streets/walls of the room are close than the rest of your subject. But here they only show us flat urban nightscapes at infinity or arty reflections on a car bonnet at close focus and f2. 🤐 The high end Cine world is growing tired of "perfection" in their lenses (see how easy it is to find second hand Summicron and Summiluxes Leitz Cine lenses you will be suprised) whilst Panavision 1968 C-Series lenses keep racking profits since half a century (rental only... no private hands can have those lenses). Heck, even those summiluxes had a net filter at the rear to make them "less perfect" because DOP would just to it anyway... hence why we had Thalia lenses after that... because people would just pay thousands to get Leica R lenses rehoused. I am still excited about this new 28, but it's not nearly as nicely put a release campaign as what they did for Summilux 28M... Anyone remembers the Leica M9 and M monochrom brochures? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Cato Posted February 18, 2021 Share #125 Posted February 18, 2021 I'm sure this lens will be very nice. Personally I'd have preferred a 24 or even 21, especially as I already have a Q2 as well - but I'm sure the people after 28 will love it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rim_light Posted February 18, 2021 Share #126 Posted February 18, 2021 50 minutes ago, panoreserve said: Without any additional engraving like „SL 28“ (cf lens hood for 75/90)?! same serial number - absolutely identical to the lenshood of the SL35 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted February 19, 2021 Share #127 Posted February 19, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 9 hours ago, Gavin Cato said: I'm sure this lens will be very nice. Personally I'd have preferred a 24 or even 21, especially as I already have a Q2 as well - but I'm sure the people after 28 will love it. 'Only' a question of time... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aksclix Posted February 19, 2021 Share #128 Posted February 19, 2021 Yes, I’ve also said before that a 21 would’ve been the most logical one to release now.. a fast wide angle lens to complete the SL kit. These lenses release at snails pace only to be out of stock for yet another 6 months or more.. 🤦♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted February 19, 2021 Share #129 Posted February 19, 2021 I had been planning to wait for the 24 as well, but got a very nice Sigma 24/3.5 in the mean time. But looking at the specs of the new 28 (much wider field of sharp focus and probably contrastier than my M 28 SX as well) I'm going to get this one. In fact the 24 SL SC, when it comes, looks like it may be a stretch of the 28 design, while the 21 has a lot of new stuff and could be interesting. Working with the Sigma 24 helps to point up the value of focusing really close, which even the best M lenses can't do. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel C.1975 Posted February 19, 2021 Author Share #130 Posted February 19, 2021 Hi Scott, yes, I also plan to buy the Sigma as a "interims-lens". My former kit always was 21, 35, 50, 90 .... (in between the 5.6 Summaron, which I do not count as it is such a special lens and will always be part of my kit). Now I've stretched it already a bit with 35 and 75, skipping 50. But 21 is more niche and I loved 24mm in the past. Therefore the 24 Sigma is good playing field to make up your mind if 24 or 21 is the way to go. What I've seen so far, also from you, the 24 Sigma is a quite capable and nice small lens. However, I am also looking towards the 1.8 24 from Panasonic, which also might be a nice one, once it is available. Reason is preventing me to buy all of the Summicron-sl and I really want to keep these expensive lenses only within my core-lens setup and don't want to expand this set towards the exotic corners of my use-area. Currently I have some coins in my Schmu-purse, but struggle how to spend it - too many nice choices, but then again too less (no 24 sc-sl 😉 ) Cheers Daniel 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted February 19, 2021 Share #131 Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) Reason has kept me from purchasing the SL SC 90, but elsewhere it has failed I have the 35/50/75 and use all of them. It helps that I have an SL, SL2, SL2-S and S1R all out and begging to be used. And a CL in a drawer somewhere. Edited February 19, 2021 by scott kirkpatrick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaFotografie Posted February 19, 2021 Share #132 Posted February 19, 2021 my plan is 21-35-90 - beside the Summilux-SL 50 and the zooms; very happy with these lenses and SL2 body 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoySmith Posted February 19, 2021 Share #133 Posted February 19, 2021 2 hours ago, scott kirkpatrick said: Reason has kept me from purchasing the SL SC 90, but elsewhere it has failed I have the 35/50/75 and use all of them. It helps that I have an SL, SL2, SL2-S and S1R all out and begging to be used. And a CL in a drawer somewhere. What are your criteria for choosing each of the L-Mount bodies that you have ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted February 19, 2021 Share #134 Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, RoySmith said: What are your criteria for choosing each of the L-Mount bodies that you have ? The SL has a Leica R to L adapter on it, and the files are coded R00nxxxx, so that's easy. It is used with R 90/2, 80/1.4 or a macro lens. The S1R is used with some Lumix lenses, especially the 70-200, since it offers IIBIS+OIS for those. The SL2 and SL2S run everything else. I might keep the 24/3.5 Sigma on the SL2S for a bit, because that is a nice setup for shooting 4K 10bit indoors. If I get a 28 SL SC in the next few weeks it will live on the SL2, obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joakim Posted February 19, 2021 Share #135 Posted February 19, 2021 17 hours ago, Slender said: That's because we have bonkers Dr Karbe "but why stop down" 🙄philosophy interfering.... That was clearly meant as a joke but then internet took over and it became something else... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted February 19, 2021 Share #136 Posted February 19, 2021 Jono's review article on the 28 APO SL Summicron is, for some reason, posted on the "Other Products" thread. I assume it will show up on his own site as well soon, with additional pictures. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanno Posted February 19, 2021 Share #137 Posted February 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, scott kirkpatrick said: Jono's review article on the 28 APO SL Summicron is, for some reason, posted on the "Other Products" thread. I assume it will show up on his own site as well soon, with additional pictures. Thanks Scott! I was looking for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slender Posted February 19, 2021 Share #138 Posted February 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Joakim said: That was clearly meant as a joke but then internet took over and it became something else... But surely you have noticed that those lenses get "worse" with each stop down right? The diffraction limit is so low (bravo, I respect that) that the lense basically starts to "soften" at f4 if not 2.8.... a limit that used to show at f11-16 on lesser lenses.... or a mere f8 on recent "good" leica lenses. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jplomley Posted February 19, 2021 Share #139 Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Slender said: But surely you have noticed that those lenses get "worse" with each stop down right? The diffraction limit is so low (bravo, I respect that) that the lense basically starts to "soften" at f4 if not 2.8.... a limit that used to show at f11-16 on lesser lenses.... or a mere f8 on recent "good" leica lenses. This is true. When stopped down, I’m not sure they are better then competitors. But wide open they certainly have a unique cinematic look. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted February 19, 2021 Share #140 Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) We've come a long way... These three lenses all do the same thing -- put a 28 mm image onto a full frame chip. (I don't have the SL 28 (yet) but the 35 is the same size and uses the same lens hood. On the lower left, an M Elmarit-asph 28. On the lower right, an M Summilux 28. And looming over them, an SL Summicron: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! S1010773 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr Edited February 19, 2021 by scott kirkpatrick 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! S1010773 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/317420-apo-summicron-sl-28/?do=findComment&comment=4144794'>More sharing options...
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