Steven Posted February 8, 2021 Share #41 Posted February 8, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 3 minutes ago, cirke said: A1 ? no thanks ! I am not an aircraft pilot Typical reaction of the Leica user that watches the competition light years ahead in terms of tech. "I don't need it", "I don't want a computer in my hands", etc.... You know that you can fly a Dreamliner with all the avionics off ? But it doesn't hurt to have them when the storm hits. It can save your life.... Like you, I much prefer my Leica gear to any Sony, and I'd rather have a less advance SL2S than an A1. But if Leica offered my an SL2S with the A1's AF, video specs, such high low light perf with a 50MP sensors, and the readout speeds of the A1, I'd take it in a heartbeat. I'm sure you would too. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 8, 2021 Posted February 8, 2021 Hi Steven, Take a look here Apo Summicron-sl 28. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
cirke Posted February 8, 2021 Share #42 Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Steven said: Typical reaction of the Leica user that watches the competition light years ahead in terms of tech. "I don't need it", "I don't want a computer in my hands", etc. I have a A7R3 since 2 years with the best GM lenses, I am selling all, best files and within the best lenses , but the worst camera I have ever owned for the rest ... thanks I know very well Edited February 8, 2021 by cirke Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted February 8, 2021 Share #43 Posted February 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, cirke said: I have a A7R3 since 2 years with the best GM lenses, I am selling all, best files and within the best lenses , but the worst camera I have ever owned for the rest ... thanks I know very well Nice. Share your experience with us. You’re sellling for what exactly ? And tell us why ? i need someone to remind me to be happy with my sl2s and not buy the a1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted February 8, 2021 Share #44 Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Steven said: Nice. Share your experience with us. You’re sellling for what exactly ? And tell us why ? i need someone to remind me to be happy with my sl2s and not buy the a1 the A7R3 with the 85mm 1.4 GM is what all Leica users like : soft and sharp at the same time , 3D, boke perfect BUT this is the worst ergonomics and menu you can imagine I like Leica's aesthetics and simplicity, no needs to think, I used to have a M and now a CL, I am selling all Sony for the SL2 Edited February 8, 2021 by cirke 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikkel Bigandt Posted February 8, 2021 Share #45 Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Steven said: Nice. Share your experience with us. You’re sellling for what exactly ? And tell us why ? i need someone to remind me to be happy with my sl2s and not buy the a1 a Sony camera will not match the colors of a Leica period. I have both been in Leica and Sony, and the Sony could not match them in this regard. They make great cameras and lenses but the colors are different. The new A1 has better auto White Balance than before because it has more red instead of green, but you will never have the colors as you have on your current gear. When I had the Sony A9 with adapters to my Summilux 35 and 50. The results was good but it was not the same league as on Leica. Edited February 8, 2021 by Mikkel Bigandt 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aksclix Posted February 9, 2021 Share #46 Posted February 9, 2021 Sony a7R3 was one of the top selling mirrorless FF cameras.. not everyone is chasing the Leica look or the colors.. majority of the users/buyers don't even know there is a difference and they're satisfied with the rendering.. that said, I like the images from my SL2 a LOT better than I like the ones from my Sony a9.. unless it's that of a BIF which is where it truly stands out jus saying.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted February 9, 2021 Share #47 Posted February 9, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, aksclix said: not everyone is chasing the Leica look or the colors.. I would rather say "not everyone is chasing the Leica price point..." Because, in truth, everyone is chasing Leica colours over Sony colours. Some just don't know it yet.... 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aksclix Posted February 9, 2021 Share #48 Posted February 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, Steven said: I would rather say "not everyone is chasing the Leica price point..." Because, in truth, everyone is chasing Leica colours over Sony colours. Some just don't know it yet.... Sure.. they don’t know what they’re missing perhaps! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted February 9, 2021 Share #49 Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, aksclix said: .. majority of the users/buyers don't even know there is a difference and they're satisfied with the rendering. So true. I knew and saw it the difference before being Leica, but to be honest, I didn't appreciate it as now (after almost 3 years) 16 minutes ago, Steven said: Because, in truth, everyone is chasing Leica colours over Sony colours. Some just don't know it yet Agree! Not everyone maybe, but most of them. "Some just don't know it yet" is just beautiful! 😂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaFotografie Posted February 9, 2021 Share #50 Posted February 9, 2021 Sneak preview of the optical design of the 28SL (and all others); looks very similar to the 35SL Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/317420-apo-summicron-sl-28/?do=findComment&comment=4137336'>More sharing options...
Daniel C.1975 Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share #51 Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) Honestly, all of them for one person are not necessary. Still I would like to have all and then choose to gusto For now I would prefer the 24 over the 28, but I fear I will need lots of patience. Edited February 9, 2021 by Daniel C.1975 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aksclix Posted February 9, 2021 Share #52 Posted February 9, 2021 I think releasing the 21 f2 first would've made more sense.. but I guess the 28 and 35 seem to be a thing for the "1 lens 1 camera" photogs.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerSheep Posted February 9, 2021 Share #53 Posted February 9, 2021 Any idea when the 28 will be available for purchase? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted February 9, 2021 Share #54 Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, TigerSheep said: Any idea when the 28 will be available for purchase? End of the month, shipping mid march if you're well connected. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo98 Posted February 10, 2021 Share #55 Posted February 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Steven said: End of the month, shipping mid march if you're well connected. What happened to the 28-70?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted February 10, 2021 Share #56 Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Donzo98 said: What happened to the 28-70?? It’s coming next. Confirmed from two sources. Edited February 10, 2021 by Steven Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aksclix Posted February 10, 2021 Share #57 Posted February 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Steven said: It’s coming next. Confirmed from two sources. is it a constant aperture? f2.8 or something? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted February 10, 2021 Share #58 Posted February 10, 2021 1 minute ago, aksclix said: is it a constant aperture? f2.8 or something? Constant f2.8, not stabilized, half the size of the 24-90 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted February 10, 2021 Share #59 Posted February 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Steven said: half the size of the 24-90 This can make such a difference. I always like the weight, feel, and mood of cameras that are bigger than lenses. Average or big camera size + small or standard lens feels well in hands, like shooting with an OVF. As it is since the past century. But the small mirrorless camera and colossal lens are more (I think) for the rear flipping display handle; I feel it a little weird to use EVF with such a combination. But it's me. When I think I may like the idea of SL2-S plus a 24-90, then I think about the size, and I change my mind in a few seconds. 😂 Half-size for the SL would be welcome by everyone 🙂 Let's see. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scroy Posted February 10, 2021 Share #60 Posted February 10, 2021 I've been patiently waiting for the 21mm. The 28/24 are not interesting. I'll start looking for a lightly used 16-35mm to fill the void until the 21mm is available. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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