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2 hours ago, SrMi said:

 

Assuming that the SL2-S sensor is similar to one in the Sony a7rIII, then we could compare a7rIII vs M10M: M10M is better in low-light (high ISO).

Of course, we need to see some concrete comparisons to know for sure. I find that M10M is even better in low-light than the measurements indicate.

B&W conversion will not do much for luminance noise.

I think you mean the A7III.  

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11 hours ago, FlashGordonPhotography said:

That depends. CDAF speed mainly relies on the read out speed of the sensor and speed of the processor. Pixel count isn't so important. For example the Panasonic S1 doesn't focus dramatically differently to the S1R, which is really the comparison we have here with the SL2 and 2S. There *may* be real world differences but I'm not sure what the differences in power are between the Panny and Leica processors. Software can be important too as the recent Panny upgrades have shown.

It'd be great to see some improvements and they may come but I would suspect we might get close to the Panny S5. Dramatic improvements will come with newer hardware generations.

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Yes of course with newer generations and more horsepower we'll see a big jump. I wonder if it means a change of battery format though. With a more demanding processor and workflow, the current battery may not be enough, considering it's already average as it is at least on the SL2 (from what I remember for the brief time I used it).

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11 hours ago, Simone_DF said:

Yes of course with newer generations and more horsepower we'll see a big jump. I wonder if it means a change of battery format though. With a more demanding processor and workflow, the current battery may not be enough, considering it's already average as it is at least on the SL2 (from what I remember for the brief time I used it).

Again. That depends. With newer tech also comes better efficiency. I'm in the process of purchasing a new car. The new engine is smaller than the older one but generates the same torque and more horse power while using less fuel. Or Elon might make more efficient battery cells that we can fit in the same battery case.

Personally though, carrying a smallish battery bank has changed the way I travel (not including a certain un-named pendamic). USBC power and charging have solved a bunch of issues.

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On 12/9/2020 at 12:08 PM, caissa said:

I would prefer the S1 or the R6 to the Sony.   Results are simply better.   So hopefully the SL2-S will follow the S1 path.

Now I just wonder what phantastic reasons you will find again for my choice.  

Not that it is important, but on fora (in the web) many have a similar opinion (they are probably all Sony haters 🤩).

“It’s a beast” - What should that mean ? Are cameras beasts ?

 I have considered SL2-S or canon R5 / 6 but I will use it with my M optics and then maybe only a single original optics. How is  Canon R6 with M optics?

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6 hours ago, Kim Dahl said:

 I have considered SL2-S or canon R5 / 6 but I will use it with my M optics and then maybe only a single original optics. How is  Canon R6 with M optics?

None of the other camera brands are great with M optics, including L-Mount partners Panasonic and Sigma. Some M lenses are OK with non-optimized sensors (mostly newer retrofocus designs), but it's hit-and-miss. If your intention is to get the best out of your M lenses, you should definitely get an SL, SL2, or SL2-S.

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I think the DPReview sums up the position pretty well, if you want a hybrid or video camera buy something else for better value/performance and buy and SL2 for only £1k more for stills. AF gets a mention for being worse then the S5 and as they’re silent on a comparison to the SL2, I think we can assume they don’t think there is much of a difference as well. ISO better of course as is always normally the case between 24 & 47mb generally and again they complain that for a hybrid the SL2-S should have a pull out screen at least 

 

Strikes me that if you already own and SL2 and really really want a hybrid to go with it buy an S5 for £2k with the excellent 20-60 zoom. I think I might just do that and add it to my SL2 setup, Hugh Brownstone also mentions the S5 in his review as the sweet spot in the L mount alliance as a do it all hybrid.

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On 12/15/2020 at 2:34 PM, BernardC said:

None of the other camera brands are great with M optics, including L-Mount partners Panasonic and Sigma. Some M lenses are OK with non-optimized sensors (mostly newer retrofocus designs), but it's hit-and-miss. If your intention is to get the best out of your M lenses, you should definitely get an SL, SL2, or SL2-S.

Actually, if you want the best for your M lenses : any M10 series cameras. Their sensor are tailor made for M lenses only. Whereas SL/TL2/CL/SL2/SL2-S needs a sensor that play well with TL and SL lenses. So they are a kind of compromised. 

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23 minutes ago, Slender said:

So DP review got IP52 showing at the bottom plate of their camera in this video

Obviously dpReview got it wrong. 
Same IP54 for both camera. They are the same body. 

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47 minutes ago, nicci78 said:

Actually, if you want the best for your M lenses : any M10 series cameras. Their sensor are tailor made for M lenses only. Whereas SL/TL2/CL/SL2/SL2-S needs a sensor that play well with TL and SL lenses. So they are a kind of compromised. 

I'm curious to know how the sensor in the SL2 and SL2-S is compromised when used with an M lens?

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46 minutes ago, Slender said:

So DP review got IP52 showing at the bottom plate of their camera in this video

At what time does the video show the bottom plate? Can anyone who has SL2-S check whether the bottom plate says IP52 or IP54?

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