LocalHero1953 Posted November 21, 2020 Share #201 Posted November 21, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm relieved - having recently got the SL2, I know I don't want this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ktsa5239 Posted November 21, 2020 Share #202 Posted November 21, 2020 It seems like Leica all around the world is better and more friendly than the one in Sydney Australia.... the guy doesn’t even want to talk to me even though I’ve already bought a m10 and three lenses from him. He always answers my questions with few words. And when I asked him about the SL2-S yesterday he’s just said “never heard of it” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Daniel Posted November 21, 2020 Share #203 Posted November 21, 2020 6 hours ago, Steven said: I just walked out of the Leica headquarters in Paris to show them a lens I want to sell. They told me the SL2 S will be announced on December 10th. They confirmed the 24MP resolution count as well as a price tag around 4K. They also added that the camera will be heavily oriented towards videographers, and that it will have a very long list of available codecs to shoot in. They didn't know anything about the AF system, but they assume it will still be contrast based with similar improvements as the S5. Thanks so much for this info, Steven! Did you happen to receive any indication on any body or battery changes? I do believe it very unlikely, but I'm very interested to hear anything else that you think will be announced If ProRes Raw is indeed available in this body, I would likely try to sell my SL2 as soon as I can before any further depreciation with the release of the SL2-S. That being said, the SL2 is my intro into the Leica universe, so do you have any input on whether or not the value of the SL2 will go down once the SL2-S is announced? I've just posted an ad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveV Posted November 21, 2020 Share #204 Posted November 21, 2020 21 minutes ago, Steven said: It takes a lot to break a Leica salesman. It took me a lot of time to make him lose his shell. I call bullshit. If this guy has his head up his @$$ then I would take my business elsewhere! No excuse to be treated in an impolite manner from any salesperson, in my opinion, as long as the respect is mutual. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveV Posted November 21, 2020 Share #205 Posted November 21, 2020 46 minutes ago, Steven said: I don’t know, probably. There’s no excuse you’re right. but I was referring to this “iconic” salesperson at the Leica shop in paris who’s been around for ever. It’s very tough to break the ice with him cause he’s fed up of people coming to see the items and then make fun of the price. But when he starts realizing whether or not you’re a true Leica lover and not here just to challenge, he opens up and becomes the nicest most knowledgeable guy. don’t forget Leica is a cult, and you have to earn your place in a cult 😂 Agreed. Leica is not for everyone, but I would say that if you have the means to pay for that last 10% that Leica lenses deliver, then like anything else the law of diminishing returns require you to pay the premium. Many scoff at that and many are glad to have the very best at the premium. All about perspective. Here in NY, my experience with the Leica store has been nothing short of phenomenal. In fact, Eli Kurkland (owner) was not only helpful when I was shopping for my SL2 system, but he gave me his mobile phone number, in case I had additional questions. He earned my business and because of that, I spent $20K on the camera and lenses. If I got a bad attitude, I would have gone home and ordered online, through B&H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZN Posted November 22, 2020 Share #206 Posted November 22, 2020 5 hours ago, Ktsa5239 said: It seems like Leica all around the world is better and more friendly than the one in Sydney Australia.... the guy doesn’t even want to talk to me even though I’ve already bought a m10 and three lenses from him. He always answers my questions with few words. And when I asked him about the SL2-S yesterday he’s just said “never heard of it” Back in April 2019 Leica in Melbourne (Level 1 St Collins Lane) were amazingly helpful and friendly. Had a long conversation with a Leica rep who was visiting - first rate guy. Leica in Sydney (QVB) I'm less impressed about. Never have what you are looking for/ takes months to get in etc. And Then Their Attitude Leaves A Lot To Be Desired. Walked past their store a couple of weeks ago – was amazed that COVID hadn't wiped them out (yet). As to the rumoured SL2S - sounds great, even if I'm not a video guy. A 24MP SL with IBIS and better high ISO is exactly what I'm looking for 😃 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
didier Posted November 22, 2020 Share #207 Posted November 22, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) 22 hours ago, Steven said: I just walked out of the Leica headquarters in Paris You are lucky... I thought all the Leica Shops in Paris were closed, only possibility is to have a meeting with Laurent (Beaumarchais) or Alessandro (Saint-Honoré) via a Zoom meeting (all other employees are at home) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillavoider Posted November 23, 2020 Share #208 Posted November 23, 2020 On 11/22/2020 at 8:03 AM, Ktsa5239 said: It seems like Leica all around the world is better and more friendly than the one in Sydney Australia.... the guy doesn’t even want to talk to me even though I’ve already bought a m10 and three lenses from him. He always answers my questions with few words. And when I asked him about the SL2-S yesterday he’s just said “never heard of it” Had the same treatment unfortunately there is only one nice guy there: Danny, is very friendly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. G Posted November 23, 2020 Share #209 Posted November 23, 2020 On 11/21/2020 at 10:02 AM, LocalHero1953 said: I'm relieved - having recently got the SL2, I know I don't want this one. Having the SL2, I may want the SL2-S as well. If the low light performance of the sensor matches that of the Panasonic S1 it would allow me to use my Summicron SL lenses at night with higher ISO and lower noise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
didier Posted November 23, 2020 Share #210 Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) On 11/22/2020 at 2:15 PM, Steven said: If you make a purchase, you can go see them at the store. I already saw Laurent and Alessandro at least theee times each in the last 3 weeks ! But you gotta buy. I’ve been « buying » there for 15+ years. Had great talks for years with Jean-Marc, the founder of « La Maison du Leica », whole Saturday Mornings before customers arrived about everything, not only Leica. And more recently with Alessandro. But as I do live 500 km from Paris, and my business trips cancelled, no possibility, and no hurry for me to buy... just waiting/hoping for Life going back to normal asap... Edited November 23, 2020 by didier Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted November 23, 2020 Share #211 Posted November 23, 2020 On 11/21/2020 at 5:32 PM, DaveV said: In fact, Eli Kurkland (owner) was not only helpful when I was shopping for my SL2 system, but he gave me his mobile phone number, in case I had additional questions. He earned my business and because of that, I spent $20K on the camera and lenses. If I got a bad attitude, I would have gone home and ordered online, through B&H. Eli Kurland, former manager at Wall St Camera, then had his own shop, Kurland Photo, destroyed in 9/11 attack, and recently had the SoHo store looted. Good guy, seemingly deserves a break. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OR120 Posted November 23, 2020 Share #212 Posted November 23, 2020 Eli was a very helpful person to me after a transaction which occurred just before the protests/looting/destruction of his Soho store. Very difficult times indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pippin Posted November 24, 2020 Share #213 Posted November 24, 2020 I’m predicting the S in SL2-S stands for Silber (silver). Leica is a smaller manufacturer and having 3 new cameras in the same year seems a stretch. Adding a new colour way seems more probable as with the James Bond Q2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slender Posted November 24, 2020 Share #214 Posted November 24, 2020 Imagine a 90-280 silver 🤠.... I saw this at the BSC salon in march 2020... he claimed it was made by leica for him, but I have some strong feeling it is homemade... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/314370-sl2-s/?do=findComment&comment=4086227'>More sharing options...
Aaron Daniel Posted December 1, 2020 Share #215 Posted December 1, 2020 Looking to keep this thread going and active Any new global rumours or updates? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZHNL Posted December 1, 2020 Share #216 Posted December 1, 2020 I hope it has flip screen. This is the only feature I desperately need it from SL2. I will wait for this one or S5. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted December 2, 2020 Share #217 Posted December 2, 2020 6 hours ago, ZHNL said: I hope it has flip screen. This is the only feature I desperately need it from SL2. I will wait for this one or S5. Yes, SL2-S is likely a mix of S1 and S5. It will be interesting to see whether Panasonic's lastes af update is included in SL2-S, implying forthcoming updates in SL2 as well. The S5 is a fine, small body (albeit not as simple as Leica bodies). And yes, the flip screen is good to have! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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miro Posted December 4, 2020 Share #219 Posted December 4, 2020 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/314370-sl2-s/?do=findComment&comment=4092170'>More sharing options...
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