Dr. G

If the AF is the same as the Q3, the SL3 will not be either.

In terms of image quality alone, I can see your point. I don't find myself missing focus much, but I don't shoot moving people for the most part. With the SL2-S and the APO Summicron-SL lenses the images are pristine and appear to be much higher resolution than the 24MP sensor would suggest. There's a part of me that wonders if the perceived resolution of the SL2 files will come close to, if not equal, that of the SL3 because of the PDAF overlay. Having the Q3, though, I did find the files to be great to work with and never saw any signs of banding. I'm not selling my SL2-S anytime soon. I just wonder if the better move, for me, is to pick up a SL2 when they inevitably hit the market in a few weeks.

Thinking a little outside the box here, but any thoughts about using the CV 21 1.4 Nokton to have a little wider field of view? I plan on getting the SL3, so cropping in to a 24mm equivalent would be no issue (It probably wouldn't be an issue on the SL2-S either). It looks like distortion is well controlled on that lens and it seems to get positive reviews.

Having owned the Q3 for a while, AF will be better - but I hope they did more with it than in the Q3 because it's still not what I would call "great."

Has anyone tried out the various 24mm options available for the SL system? I sold my Q2 because I don't really love 28mm. I have used 24mm lenses on my old Sony cameras and found it great to work with. Looking at the Panasonic 24 1.8 and the Sigma 24 f2, but am not opposed to M mount options.

For not overexposing wide open. Didn’t ask that time in terms of the sensor readout issue. I was using my Summilix-SL on the SL2-S and my Q3 wide open for a beach event in Grand Cayman a few weeks ago and I was overexposing at 1/8000 on the Q3 with electronic shutter. No issues with 1/16,000 on the SL2-S. I’ve been going to that event for years and with my Q2 I do have a few images that were properly exposed at 1/16,000 wide open. Since the Q2 goes to 1/16,000 electronically in aperture mode and the Q3 doesn’t do it automatically I was just concerned that it may not be as easy as just keeping the SL3 in aperture mode in the same situation.

No, that’s not what I mean. On the Q2 if you set the camera to aperture mode it would max out at 1/16,000 with the electronic shutter. On the Q3 it maxes out at 1/8000 in aperture mode and you need to go into more settings to get it to shoot at 1/16,000.

This is good news. I’m hoping 1/16,000 in standard aperture mode. For some reason on the Q3 you can’t get to 1/16,000 without jumping through some hoops.

I spoke to Alex from Popflash Photo yesterday. They were supposed to have it available for preorder yesterday but they still aren't ready.

Your other option would be to shoot manual mode with auto ISO, then you can keep an eye on your shutter speed and light metering. FWIW, when I shoot in low light and need to keep my shutter speed up and ISO lower I'll usually underexpose by 1 to 1 1/3 stops. There's no issue recovering your files on the SL2-S when you do that.

FWIW, this was taken with the Q3 with a 1/8000 shutter speed. A few on the forum say that a global shutter isn't necessary, but faster readout times would have probably negated the issue with the wings here. So if the Sl3 has the same readout speed we'll have some of the same issues the Q3 has.

I'm thinking it will probably be assignable. I shoot aperture mode most of the time and use my back dial for both exposure compensation and adjusting ISO after pressing one of my customizable buttons. It would be great to just have one dial ready to go. If I had a separate dial for shutter speed, aperture and ISO always at the ready I may start using manual mode more.

There is one thing I'm concerned about. With the M11 I'm assuming there is no PDAF matrix over the sensor. With the Q3 it is there, but the wider angle of the lens may not make what I'm concerned about show. On my Sony and Canon systems when some lenses were used there was a very strange flare pattern which showed up as a grid of square shaped flares on images. After inquiring about it I was told that it was from the PDAF matrix over the sensor. Hopefully this isn't the case on the SL3.

I'm ordering one. I have the Haoge and I've always suspected the lens was the wrong distance from the sensor when in the default position.

I sold my Q3 this week. I liked everything about the camera except the 28mm lens, which is definitely much wider than what I usually like to shoot (40-50mm). As an SL2-S user since it was released, I found that the Q3 images looked really good and that low light performance wasn't quite as good as the SL2-S but was still far better than the Q2 was (to me). We'll see about the ergonomics. I like the size of the SL2-S because there's a good amount of room between the grip and the lens, which was never the case when I shot larger lenses on my Sony or Canon systems. The photo of the SL3 may be deceiving, but it looks like there's much less room in that regard. The one variable is the SL3-S. I'm a low light shooter. I would certainly welcome a camera with even cleaner high ISO performance, especially if they could give us 36MP. Sometimes I think that having the APO SL lenses (35, 50, 75) is wasted on the 24MP SL2-S.