lct Posted February 16, 2020 Share #161 Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) A mirrorless M would interest me certainly but it's only a rumor at this stage. Will then be a modded Nikon or another modded Sony for me most probably. Edited February 16, 2020 by lct 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Photon42 Posted February 16, 2020 Share #162 Posted February 16, 2020 An M always has been mirrorless. 2 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkR440 Posted February 16, 2020 Share #163 Posted February 16, 2020 vor 14 Stunden schrieb lct: If Nikon or whatever brand made such a camera, i would have one already. So are you happy with the results that you get from your modded Sony or not? Doesn't sound like that you are happy with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 16, 2020 Share #164 Posted February 16, 2020 20 minutes ago, DirkR440 said: So are you happy with the results that you get from your modded Sony or not? Doesn't sound like that you are happy with it. My A7s mod is almost perfect in its own rights but i would be glad to get IBIS and a bit more than 12MP with the same lack of digital noise, also i'd like to use my favorite Nikkor lenses in AF mode on it. Too much asking perhaps but i'm not i a hurry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinjun Posted February 16, 2020 Share #165 Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, 250swb said: Well ok, in the current market the advantages from any one high end thing compared to another high end thing are in a state of increasingly diminishing returns. It has always been thus ever since digital photography was invented. So at every turn there are people using cameras and lenses and modifications that make them feel they are at the pinnacle of photography before realising that the people who look at the photograph have no fucking clue what the difference is. If somebody stands five feet away from the image are they getting a worse experience than those pressing their noses against the glass? I suggest if they need to press their nose against the glass of a massive print there is fundamentally something missing from the photograph. 16 hours ago, 250swb said: I was just asking where your Kolari modified camera intersected with the real world of print sizes and viewing distances. If you want to say it's so much superior I think that makes you responsible for explaining why in a practical everyman way. As perceived advantages become ever more minimal it behoves those extolling them to justify the expense and true nature of it. After all there will be wedding guests who say they got better pictures with their iPhone than the official photographer just as there will be people who got a better picture of the sea front than the postcard in the local shop. But if it's too difficult then I apologise for interrupting your reverie. These comments would be better directed at someone (and there seem to be plenty on these forums) who spend 5000 (£, $, Euros) and upwards on a lens for which there are plenty of much cheaper alternatives. I neither get their logic nor the apparent irritation and rudeness directed at LCT in these posts, who remains studiously polite and to the point. The benefits of a thin filter stack such as those offered by Kolari on Sony A7 models have been quite well documeted on the internet. I personally found it made a very significant reduction in smearing to certain wide angle lenses in particular and gave me a route into mirrorless cameras for M lenses which was much cheaper than the likes of the SL. Diminishing returns are mentioned, but I found the modification to give a very large return for a modest outlay considering the cost of the lenses themselves. Whether this is true of Nikon Z remains to be seen, which is what LCT is interested in. Edited February 16, 2020 by sinjun 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photon42 Posted February 16, 2020 Share #166 Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) It may have been passed unnoticed but this thread is about M lenses on Nikon Z cameras. Not about Sony Kolari modifications etc. You can buy whatever you fancy, I really don't care. The Z7 sensor stack is quite thin, actually also lacking an AA filter, which the Z6 apparantly has. Presently the word is that the Z7 is the best off-the-shelf non-Leica camera for M lenses from any manufacturer. I use anything from 35mm upwards wide open with no issues. My 21 SE is fine (read: good enough for me) from about f5.6 or f8. There is a thread at FredMiranda (Alternate forum) on M lenses on Z bodies. If you are interested, take a peek. The Z gives me IBIS, access to a proper flash system and access to a proper lens selection on top of the M lenses in a quite small package. That is why I chose it. Damn - the Z7 with the Kit Zoom has about the size of the Olympus EM1 with its 12-40/2.8. As always, your milage may vary. Edited February 16, 2020 by Photon42 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 16, 2020 Share #167 Posted February 16, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) 39 minutes ago, Photon42 said: It may have been passed unnoticed but this thread is about M lenses on Nikon Z cameras. Not about Sony Kolari modifications etc. You can buy whatever you fancy, I really don't care. Thank you for all the loving care but this thread could be about Nikon Kolari modifications also no? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yukio Posted February 16, 2020 Share #168 Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) 57 minutes ago, lct said: Thank you for all the loving care but this thread could be about Nikon Kolari modifications also no? Perhaps photon42 doesn’t know that Kolari modifies Nikon Z's as well. Since the stock Z does so well with adapted lenses I think the mod is rare. I can't seem to find any example shots from a Kolari-modified Nikon online. As a matter of fact, I reached out to Kolari and asked them if they knew of any examples online and they did not. They could only say that “..our users have found that performance with legacy lenses is greatly improved..” Still, I wonder if the juice is worth the squeeze. Anyway, I think if one intends to put M lenses on a Nikon then this modification is relevant and I would love to hear input from anyone who has experience with this modification on the Z. Does anyone know of any real world examples? Edited February 16, 2020 by yukio 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaeger Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share #169 Posted February 16, 2020 2 hours ago, lct said: Thank you for all the loving care but this thread could be about Nikon Kolari modifications also no? no. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 16, 2020 Share #170 Posted February 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, jaeger said: no. Been referred to in this very thread though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddds Posted February 18, 2020 Share #171 Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) Nikon Z7, Summicron 28mm asph. V1, F8, Silver efex Regards, Edgard Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited February 18, 2020 by eddds 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/288286-m-lens-to-nikon-z-mount-adapter/?do=findComment&comment=3915415'>More sharing options...
eddds Posted February 18, 2020 Share #172 Posted February 18, 2020 First, Nikon Z7, Summicron 28mm asph. V1 2nd Monochrom M246, same lens. Regards, Edgard Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/288286-m-lens-to-nikon-z-mount-adapter/?do=findComment&comment=3915420'>More sharing options...
Photon42 Posted February 19, 2020 Share #173 Posted February 19, 2020 I felt my 28 Summicron leaves a bit to desire in the corners when mounted on the Z7. What is your experience, if you zoom in? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddds Posted February 19, 2020 Share #174 Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Photon42 said: I felt my 28 Summicron leaves a bit to desire in the corners when mounted on the Z7. What is your experience, if you zoom in? I did not try it on larger apertures, but at F8 I find it's very sharp. Enclosing 2 100% crops from the image above. (please click on the image for better viewing). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/288286-m-lens-to-nikon-z-mount-adapter/?do=findComment&comment=3916038'>More sharing options...
Photon42 Posted February 20, 2020 Share #175 Posted February 20, 2020 ah - yes. I forget to mention the aperture - I meant wide open. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickan1 Posted February 22, 2020 Share #176 Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I have had my Z7 for 2 months now and tested most of my M-lenses from 15 mm to 135 mm. I have noticed some problems with the widest lenses and I think that the M10 may give a slightly "better" image (less corner smearing, the vignetting is easy to fix in post) when you use these lenses wide open. In my case it is a Voigtlander Super Helier 15/4.5 ver ii and a Zeiss Biogon 21/2.8. But if you close down to f8 or f11 there is no advantage for the M10 and the higher resolution with the Z7 takes over if you do landscape. I made a series of images today with the Voigtlander and here is an example shot at f8 or f11. Handheld at 1/60 sec., ISO 450. Edited February 22, 2020 by stickan1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I have had my Z7 for 2 months now and tested most of my M-lenses from 15 mm to 135 mm. I have noticed some problems with the widest lenses and I think that the M10 may give a slightly "better" image (less corner smearing, the vignetting is easy to fix in post) when you use these lenses wide open. In my case it is a Voigtlander Super Helier 15/4.5 ver ii and a Zeiss Biogon 21/2.8. But if you close down to f8 or f11 there is no advantage for the M10 and the higher resolution with the Z7 takes over if you do landscape. I made a series of images today with the Voigtlander and here is an example shot at f8 or f11. Handheld at 1/60 sec., ISO 450. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/288286-m-lens-to-nikon-z-mount-adapter/?do=findComment&comment=3917679'>More sharing options...
DirkR440 Posted August 20, 2021 Share #177 Posted August 20, 2021 this week i did a comparison of the WATE on the Z7 vs. the 14-30mm Nikkor Z. Both at 16mm, same white balance. Nikkor Z: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! WATE: 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! WATE: ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/288286-m-lens-to-nikon-z-mount-adapter/?do=findComment&comment=4259958'>More sharing options...
lct Posted August 20, 2021 Share #178 Posted August 20, 2021 44 minutes ago, DirkR440 said: this week i did a comparison of the WATE on the Z7 vs. the 14-30mm Nikkor Z. Both at 16mm, same white balance. Nikkor Z: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! WATE: Which aperture were you using if i may ask? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkR440 Posted August 20, 2021 Share #179 Posted August 20, 2021 vor 25 Minuten schrieb lct: Which aperture were you using if i may ask? sure, both pictures at f11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 20, 2021 Share #180 Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DirkR440 said: sure, both pictures at f11 Thank you . Did you try the WATE a larger apertures? Just curious as i'm tempted by this lens for my Sony mod body. Edited August 20, 2021 by lct Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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