New Leica M in September 2016? The speculations.

[jmahto]

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Can't see it ...

 

How about a Carbon Fibre body! (it's in caps because they're Big Important words). How cool would that be, particularly if it wasn't painted!

Will it balance with metal lenses then?

[105012]

My wish list:

 

1. thinner,
2. lighter,
3. faster,
4. minimal and
5. with a QuantumFilm sensor or something else that solves the blown pixel problem of digital. 

Edited November 5, 2015 by 105012

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[jmahto]

 

My wish list:

 

1. thinner,
2. lighter,
3. faster,
4. minimal and
5. with a QuantumFilm sensor or something else that solves the blown pixel problem of digital. 

 

Interesting... It seems QuantumFilm stuff is more for smartphone than a premier imaging device. Just read few blogs and I could be way off. Fascinating... as Spock would have said.

[Paulus]

I don't think it will be smaller. Leica invested so much in the inovation of the M9-> M240 body. They must have thought it over well and want to keep it for years to come.

[Adam]

 Since as consumers we deserve no less, I wish that  the new Leica have a:

 

- Better...

- Even better...

- Larger...

- Smaller...

- Improved...

- Even more...

- Even less...

 

The Kravitz version should be:

 

- More expensive

- Less paint

 

The camera will obviously disappoint everyone, so the waiting period will be only 2 years. In the meantime, I will be happy with my Safari.

[Exodies]

With a quantum film sensor and a means to "close" the global shutter as soon as one pixel gets to X% saturation we can eliminate the ISO control and have an X control.

[kkonkkrete]

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Yes, Exodies, I'm pretty sure that is the long-term future of digital sensor technology.  Eventually there might not even be a shutter closure: after hitting the shutter open button, you just continuously read out photon absorption rates for each pixel, so there would be no need for the 'X' control.  'Exposure' would basically be a tone-mapping decision at the post-processing stage.

[Sully]

Please,.....4K, HDMI, 4-2-2, and 10 bit out....So, we can use it in combo with the SL.  Both cameras could send signal to  and external monitor or record to a Shogun or Q7.

 

 

Ciao,  Sully

Edited November 5, 2015 by Sully

[Mornnb]

Please also make a new camera the same size as the MP film camera with the absolute minimum set of digital features.

 

I think there is a good case for a 'more' M camera and a 'less' M camera - but I don't know if Leica can divide M resources to make both happen.

In some ways the SL would be a better 'more' platform and the M the 'less' platform.

However realistically a tweaked M-P / M.240 seems most likely.

 

Agree higher ISO is a priority

Please don't make it as 'less' as the M9. The M240 is as 'less' as a camera worthy of the title 'digital camera' can be.

That is except well.... please remove the video feature.

Edited November 5, 2015 by Mornnb

[Peter H]

As far as I can tell, the video feature doesn't compromise the camera's stills performance in any way whatsoever.

 

So calls for its removal seem to be more to do with ideology than anything concerning photographic performance.  If we want to get into a new M designed on ideological grounds, fine, but maybe we should then start from scratch, no?

[jaapv]

Rather not. I use it as a travel camera, and with long lenses it is a marvellous supplement for my wife's video between taking stills.

[stevieg]

Shutter speeds in viewfinder in manual mode (retaining arrows/circle to confirm exposure)

Move-able zoom point for focusing in live view

[mmradman]

As far as I can tell, the video feature doesn't compromise the camera's stills performance in any way whatsoever.

 

So calls for its removal seem to be more to do with ideology than anything concerning photographic performance.  If we want to get into a new M designed on ideological grounds, fine, but maybe we should then start from scratch, no?

Absolutely agree, load it with latest electronic technology and keep good old ORF, it exists in 2015 for a reason not for a nostalgia sake.

 

Leica ideology and dogma is behind every technically unfeasible request like size and weight of next M.  Having digital  body thinner than film M is not going to happen, I know that (Engineer by training).  As for weight I think it is perfect, any lighter and it would need adding ballast weights.  

 

Smaller battery? Definitely not, any one wanting smaller and lighter is welcome to Sony.

[Rick]

Oh, 1/8000 sec shutter speed.  I bump up against this often with the Summilux lenses.  But, by no means screw up the quiet, low vibration shutter or the silky smooth shutter release to achieve this.

 

Rick

[asiafish]

Please don't make it so attractive that I feel compelled to replace my M240.

 

Please don't make it so attractive that I feel compelled to replace my M-E.

[mjh]

Interesting... It seems QuantumFilm stuff is more for smartphone than a premier imaging device. Just read few blogs and I could be way off.

These days, all the innovations in sensor technology premiere in smartphone camera modules, i.e. tiny sensor sizes. Eventually the new technologies trickle down (or up if you prefer) to affect larger sensors.

[mirekti]

QuantumFilm looks very promising, exactly what I look for in the new sensor, higher ISO, more dynamic range and a global shutter i.e. parallel read out. 
"Only" two things are left, when would Leica adopt it (if ever), and how it would cut off IR light. 

Edited November 6, 2015 by mirekti

[Brett Cambern]

While many talk about higher ISO capability I would be very happy with the native 50 ISO of the sensor in the SL

[jaapv]

50 is a pull value - the native ISO value is 100.

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[Brett Cambern]

50 is a pull value - the native ISO value is 100.

Thanks Jaap.  I thought I recalled reading that 50 was actually native but I would be happy with 100.