News about the firmware update 3.0 for the SL2

[Photoworks]

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I have tried Perspective control on the M10, I was annoying more than useful. It works only when in live view, It is slow responfding, and sometime over corrected and you wait for it go back to normal.

Not it is off and all is good.,

[caissa]

On 6/11/2021 at 3:08 AM, Tom B said:

- improvement of the AF: it should pe (per minimum) the level of the competitors on the market in that price tag..... I don't want to say: sorry, it's only a Leica - the af isn't that fast as

- power managment: it should be possible taking 500 pictures over one day with one battery. Actually this takes me per minimum 3 batterys - that's not only inconvenient it's also expensive.

... just my two cents

Leica should improve their software leadership!  

Use AFs then you will see that Leicas AF is excellent. Use AFc only after the next update, or if you are not able to find the button where to turn AFc off. I use these cameras since several years and have no real problems.

Some newcomers have nothing to do than to complain about these small details. And they are so busy about it that they completely forget that a new camera requires also a certain amount of flexibility (on the side of the user). If flexibility is no acceptable idea, then nobody can help. How much flexibility is needed to try to switch from AFc to AFs, at least for a trial period ?

The battery story is also eternally repeating. Still some users have not heard that usb power devs are much cheaper and much richer in energy than internal batteries. You can ask video users of almost any brand that this is the modern way to go. And that complaints (the same old complaints repeated) will never be in any way useful.

Edited June 13, 2021 by caissa

[Tom B]

vor 1 Stunde schrieb caissa:

Use AFs then you will see that Leicas AF is excellent. Use AFc

I wrote "AF"...

If I use AF Mode - then AFs. It's annoying to see, where the focus sits, the hitrate per se. AFc is an other game. Take your SL2 and place your camera beside someone who has eg a Nikon Z7 or Sony A9. I''m convinced, this discussion is closed. No possibility, to use the SL2 in an comfortable way, to shoot Handball, Volleyball or (extreme) F1. 

vor 1 Stunde schrieb caissa:

Some newcomers

I don't think, this was in my direction. 

vor 1 Stunde schrieb caissa:

Still some users have not heard that usb power devs are much cheaper and much richer in energy than internal batteries.

You take this from what? 

Maybe there is someone out there, who knows that - and decided, that this usage is nothing, that fits in his/her demands? For me - this is no alternativ, walking with a camera with a USB Plug.... Maybe in a studio - but this is never my application. 

  

[BEG]

Does anyone know whether the upcoming SL2 firmware update is likely to include linear manual focus for the SL 50mm Summilux and the 16-35mm Vario?

[Speeding]

On 6/13/2021 at 7:20 AM, Tom B said:

I wrote "AF"...

If I use AF Mode - then AFs. It's annoying to see, where the focus sits, the hitrate per se. AFc is an other game. Take your SL2 and place your camera beside someone who has eg a Nikon Z7 or Sony A9. I''m convinced, this discussion is closed. No possibility, to use the SL2 in an comfortable way, to shoot Handball, Volleyball or (extreme) F1. 

I don't think, this was in my direction. 

You take this from what? 

Maybe there is someone out there, who knows that - and decided, that this usage is nothing, that fits in his/her demands? For me - this is no alternativ, walking with a camera with a USB Plug.... Maybe in a studio - but this is never my application. 

  

Z7 is not in the same class as A9 if we're talking about AF.  Far too slow and plagued by blackout and rolling shutter.  I don't think the SL2 is geared or marketed at sports like volleyball anymore than the Z7 is.  There are better cameras for those niche uses (like the A9 you mention).  Although an A9 near a sandy volleyball court would make me think twice.  Perhaps a D5 or 1DXIII if you wanted it to survive. 😁

Out of curiosity I grabbed the SL2 with 50/2 Summicron-SL.  I shot a 20 frame burst, wide open of child zig-zagging toward me in AF-C mode and 3/20 frames were out of focus (in part due to my panning back/forth) but not bad.  More than sufficient for common use.  For dedicated sports shooting, there are better tools.

[Photoworks]

1 hour ago, BEG said:

Does anyone know whether the upcoming SL2 firmware update is likely to include linear manual focus for the SL 50mm Summilux and the 16-35mm Vario?

not sure specific about does two lenses, but the linear focus is a Lens firmware and you can have it now.

You will to run the update with every lens you have. then go back to focus assist menu to change it to linear 

you can find to update for the lenses on the SL2s download page

[BEG]

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Thank you. Yes, I have linear focusing on my SL 24-90 and 90-280 lenses and it is terrific. I understand that it also is now available for all of the SL Summicrons, but not for the two lenses I mentioned--the 50 Lux and 16-35. Here's hoping.

[Capnord]

Any news ? We are july 1st...

[LBJ2]

On 6/11/2021 at 4:33 PM, Photoworks said:

I have tried Perspective control on the M10, I was annoying more than useful. It works only when in live view, It is slow responfding, and sometime over corrected and you wait for it go back to normal.

Not it is off and all is good.,

I had the opposite experience. I think its a pretty good in-camera tool and after a bit of before and after experimentation it didn't take long to know when to apply for best effect. It's not an technique I will use with the majority of my shots, but when I need it, I find it easy to get to and even easier to use to help frame the composition. I really don't mind using LiveView for such tiny camera kit. I actually use LiveView when I shoot the 24 Lux due to lack of frame lines. 

Personally, I would much rather have Perspective Control in-camera than not.

[buj]

.. any news....

[AKorenc]

No.

[elviskennedy]

Sales/marketing definitions for your reference:

Tomorrow = 11:59 pm tomorrow 

Next week = Next Friday

Next Month = Last day of next month

First/Second/Third/Fourth Quarter = Last day of such quarter

Later this Year = December 31

Next Year = December 31 of next year

Spring/Summer/Fall/Winter = Last day of such season

Based on the above, do not expect the SL2 update (to catch up to SL2 S features) until September 20 (last day of summer).

 

[T25UFO]

Maybe a lens profile for the new 50mm f1.2 Noctilux?  The lens profile in the menu is for the original f1.2 lens, so that's the one I choose.  Might not be much different, but would be nice to have an update.

[Slender]

It's coming, don't worry and its gonna be nice.

[Jim B]

On 6/21/2021 at 3:56 PM, Speeding said:

Z7 is not in the same class as A9 if we're talking about AF.  Far too slow and plagued by blackout and rolling shutter.  I don't think the SL2 is geared or marketed at sports like volleyball anymore than the Z7 is.  There are better cameras for those niche uses (like the A9 you mention).  Although an A9 near a sandy volleyball court would make me think twice.  Perhaps a D5 or 1DXIII if you wanted it to survive. 😁

Out of curiosity I grabbed the SL2 with 50/2 Summicron-SL.  I shot a 20 frame burst, wide open of child zig-zagging toward me in AF-C mode and 3/20 frames were out of focus (in part due to my panning back/forth) but not bad.  More than sufficient for common use.  For dedicated sports shooting, there are better tools.

I tired this too with my SL lenses but only get the fatal flaw prohibiting the camera from shooting

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[caissa]

I am currently waiting for two things to happen soon (maybe within 1 or 2 months), the firmware update of the SL2 and the announcement of Mac notebooks with M2 chip and about 32 GB of RAM (maybe even more).  Both could be an improvement to my daily routine. I do not expect to hear here about the Macs, but does anybody know when the firmware will be out ? “They” said probably by the middle of July ....   (which is now)

Any new rumors when it will happen ?

I think the last update was about a year ago ....

Edited July 19, 2021 by caissa

[setuporg]

On 6/21/2021 at 2:18 PM, BEG said:

Thank you. Yes, I have linear focusing on my SL 24-90 and 90-280 lenses and it is terrific. I understand that it also is now available for all of the SL Summicrons, but not for the two lenses I mentioned--the 50 Lux and 16-35. Here's hoping.

What are the use cases when you'd prefer the linear focusing over, um, the non-linear one?:)

[FlashGordonPhotography]

15 minutes ago, setuporg said:

What are the use cases when you'd prefer the linear focusing over, um, the non-linear one?:)

Well for me, all the time. And I'm not a video shooter. I like consistency. When fine tuning my focus point for landscapes I don't want the focus moving at different rates just because I move the ring at a different speed.

Gordon

[BEG]

I like using the linear focusing now available on the SL 24-90, the 90-280, and the SL APO primes, because I enjoy full manual shooting. When I use my SL2, I therefore like to be able to bring the scene into focus, as Gordon wrote, "without the focus moving at different rates just because I move the ring at a different speed." Sometimes I shoot directly after I "manually" focus; other times I use back-button autofocus to ensure that I am dialed in.

I hope this is useful. And I'm still hoping that the next SL2 firmware update extends the linear focusing option to the SL 16-35 Vario and the SL 1.4 prime.

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[Eclectic Man]

The problem I have with the 'standard' focusing is that minor movements of the focus ring have no effect.  You have to move it quite decisively to get a response, so if you are trying to get critical focus on, say stars, although the autofocus will get close, a tweak is often needed.  With linear focus I can get it spot on, but 'standard' non-linear focusing is a nightmare.