cirke Posted February 7, 2021 Share #21  Posted February 7, 2021 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) if it is the same price than the Q2  it is maybe a good idea to take a Q2 as 28mm for the SL2 Edited February 7, 2021 by cirke 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Westerwald-Leica Posted February 7, 2021 Share #22  Posted February 7, 2021 vor 3 Stunden schrieb cirke: if it is the same price than the Q2  it is maybe a good idea to take a Q2 as 28mm for the SL2 Good point, plus you would have an extra body as a fall-back solution if - heaven forbid - your SL2 should fail you.🙂 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted February 7, 2021 Share #23 Â Posted February 7, 2021 And you get 1.7 instead of 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZach Posted February 7, 2021 Share #24 Â Posted February 7, 2021 + they share the same battery... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted February 7, 2021 Share #25  Posted February 7, 2021 Ho ! Then another reason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted February 7, 2021 Share #26  Posted February 7, 2021 3 hours ago, cirke said: if it is the same price than the Q2  it is maybe a good idea to take a Q2 as 28mm for the SL2 The point has been made even more impressively by those who have chosen a Q2 ($5k) in lieu of a 28 Summilux ($7300) to accompany the M10R (a combo totaling $15,600). Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T25UFO Posted February 7, 2021 Share #27  Posted February 7, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) . . . and when comparing the Q2M to the M10M + 28mm Summilux.  The Q family always compares favourably.  A big success story for Leica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted February 7, 2021 Share #28  Posted February 7, 2021 I’d love to see a Q50 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander-HH Posted February 7, 2021 Share #29  Posted February 7, 2021 Q40 for me please 🙃 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted February 7, 2021 Share #30  Posted February 7, 2021 41 minutes ago, Alexander-HH said: Q40 for me please 🙃 Even better! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaFotografie Posted February 7, 2021 Share #31  Posted February 7, 2021 vor 42 Minuten schrieb Steven: I see advantages of the 28SL over the Q2. Especially for SL2-S user. You will get way better AF than the Q2. Probably slightly better image quality. The possibility of making videos at 28mm, and of course, way way way way way way way better low light with your 28mm SL. Hi Steven, please let me ask: why esp. for SL2-S users?  I‘m thinking such beautiful lenses like all the Summicron-SLs are shining with the high-res SL2 much better. Thanks! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoreserve Posted February 8, 2021 Share #32  Posted February 8, 2021 vor 6 Stunden schrieb Steven: Especially SL2-S user because they have some major advantages over the Q2 that SL2 users don't have, or at least don't have to the same extent. They are: - serious video possibilities (not the case on the Q2, not the case on the SL2) - extreme low light performance (not the case at all on the Q2, not really the case either on the SL2) - better AF performance (way better than the Q2, slightly better than the SL2, and the AF gap between the SL2-S and the SL2 should get wider this spring, at least temporarily). Hope that answered your question. Not let's watch the SL2-S users agree with me, and the SL2 users bitterly disagree with me 😂 but they know I'm right. Leica's SL2-Body (with Sony's A1-Tech implemented😇) & a set of SL-Apo-Summicrons (e.g. 35 resp. 28 + 75 resp. 90) would be the very best😇😇... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJH Posted February 8, 2021 Share #33  Posted February 8, 2021 9 hours ago, Steven said: Especially SL2-S user because they have some major advantages over the Q2 that SL2 users don't have, or at least don't have to the same extent. They are: - serious video possibilities (not the case on the Q2, not the case on the SL2) - extreme low light performance (not the case at all on the Q2, not really the case either on the SL2) - better AF performance (way better than the Q2, slightly better than the SL2, and the AF gap between the SL2-S and the SL2 should get wider this spring, at least temporarily). Hope that answered your question. Not let's watch the SL2-S users agree with me, and the SL2 users bitterly disagree with me 😂 but they know I'm right. I agree with Steven’s points, originally I had the SL2 and then swapped it for SL2-S and his points above match my experience. Superb results still with my SL35, 50, 90 and 24-90. My SL2 also had issues with battery warnings that prevented the use of 4K video and high FPS when I still had say 50% battery remaining, many others had this also. So far my SL2-S hasn’t displayed this. I was also slightly disappointed with the 47mb sensor regarding high ISO performance which it appears to be weak with (likewise the Q2), when I received my M10R this just compounded it for me as I believe it’s 40mb sensor is the better high res performer. I also have a hunch that Panasonic will release their S2 and S2R this year and they have to improve their AF performance significantly to remain competitive and increase sales, the SL2’s 47mb sensor could therefore be a dead end in terms of significant firmware updates but of course it depends on your usage.  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted February 8, 2021 Share #34  Posted February 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Steven said: Or for now... A1 + Metabone FE to M adapter + 28 M Summilux A1 ? no thanks !  I am not an aircraft pilot 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted February 8, 2021 Share #35  Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Steven said: Typical reaction of the Leica user that watches the competition light years ahead in terms of tech. "I don't need it", "I don't want a computer in my hands", etc. I have a A7R3  since 2 years with the best GM lenses, I am selling all, best files and within the best lenses , but the worst camera I have ever owned for  the rest ... thanks I know very well Edited February 8, 2021 by cirke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted February 8, 2021 Share #36  Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Steven said: Nice. Share your experience with us. You’re sellling for what exactly ? And tell us why ? i need someone to remind me to be happy with my sl2s and not buy the a1  the A7R3 with the 85mm 1.4 GM is what all Leica users like  : soft and sharp at the same time , 3D,  boke perfect BUT this is the worst ergonomics and menu you can imagine I like Leica's aesthetics and simplicity, no needs to think, I used to have a M and now a CL, I am selling all Sony for the SL2  Edited February 8, 2021 by cirke 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikkel Bigandt Posted February 8, 2021 Share #37  Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Steven said: Nice. Share your experience with us. You’re sellling for what exactly ? And tell us why ? i need someone to remind me to be happy with my sl2s and not buy the a1 a Sony camera will not match the colors of a Leica period. I have both been in Leica and Sony, and the Sony could not match them in this regard. They make great cameras and lenses but the colors are different. The new A1 has better auto White Balance than before because it has more red instead of green, but you will never have the colors as you have on your current gear. When I had the Sony A9 with adapters to my Summilux 35 and 50. The results was good but it was not the same league as on Leica. Edited February 8, 2021 by Mikkel Bigandt 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aksclix Posted February 9, 2021 Share #38 Â Posted February 9, 2021 Sony a7R3 was one of the top selling mirrorless FF cameras.. not everyone is chasing the Leica look or the colors.. majority of the users/buyers don't even know there is a difference and they're satisfied with the rendering.. that said, I like the images from my SL2 a LOT better than I like the ones from my Sony a9.. unless it's that of a BIF which is where it truly stands out jus saying.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aksclix Posted February 9, 2021 Share #39  Posted February 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, Steven said: I would rather say "not everyone is chasing the Leica price point..." Because, in truth, everyone is chasing Leica colours over Sony colours. Some just don't know it yet.... Sure.. they don’t know what they’re missing perhaps! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted February 9, 2021 Share #40  Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, aksclix said: .. majority of the users/buyers don't even know there is a difference and they're satisfied with the rendering. So true. I knew and saw it the difference before being Leica, but to be honest, I didn't appreciate it as now (after almost 3 years) 16 minutes ago, Steven said: Because, in truth, everyone is chasing Leica colours over Sony colours. Some just don't know it yet Agree! Not everyone maybe, but most of them. "Some just don't know it yet" is just beautiful! 😂  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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