nicolaz Posted August 21, 2014 Share #21 Posted August 21, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Compared to the M9 upgrade they pushed few more options in there but as the M9 upgrade I don't see improvements in the everyday shooting or image quality.. I just like the look and the fact that I don't have to put screen protectors on the LCD. Is there any upgrade announced? Based on new features it makes me think "no" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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keithlaban.co.uk Posted August 21, 2014 Share #22 Posted August 21, 2014 Move along now, nothing to see here. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahe69 Posted August 21, 2014 Share #23 Posted August 21, 2014 But WHY that horrible screw? Without it the M-P would be nearly perfect as far as looks are concerned. Oh well, maybe the next model will be without it, at an additional cost again.... 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted August 21, 2014 Share #24 Posted August 21, 2014 I think it's a pity they had to use a chipboard screw on the front instead of the (presumably) more expensive screw used on the real MP. I guess this saving means the camera will be considerably cheaper than the standard model though - so that's a bonus! (Aaaaargh - I see my Helsinki comrade beat me to it...) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
honcho Posted August 21, 2014 Share #25 Posted August 21, 2014 But WHY that horrible screw?..... You mean you don't see the joke? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
satijntje Posted August 21, 2014 Share #26 Posted August 21, 2014 Maybe there is a M-P2 at the PK14 without screw :-) John 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahe69 Posted August 21, 2014 Share #27 Posted August 21, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) You mean you don't see the joke? Do you know someone who would be selling red screws? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMB Posted August 21, 2014 Share #28 Posted August 21, 2014 M OWNERS, BE HAPPY!!! YOU HAVE JUST THE OPPORTUNITY TO DOWNLOAD AN UPDATED EDITION OF THE GUIDE INCLUDING LAST FIRMWARE CHANGES. Francisco. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Monkhouse Posted August 21, 2014 Share #29 Posted August 21, 2014 I'm fairly certain that there was a time many years ago now that Leica were about to ditch all rangefinder cameras. I remember being seriously upset. However I am passed my sell by date so I may be wrong in this recollection but I am sure if I am someone will correct me. So it pleases me greatly to see the rangefinder concept still with us and being further refined. Strength to their combined elbows I say. I was delighted to own an IIIc, enjoyed even more the M3, moved onto a higher plane with the M6, embraced digitality with the M8 which came complete with a digital darkroom and set photography for me on fire and finally traded it in for a full frame M9P. I could never track my grand-daughter age two using M video since no auto focus but the D-LUX 6 does that and macro to perfection. So, Leica, keep up the good work, Oscar would be delighted... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecdysiast Posted August 21, 2014 Share #30 Posted August 21, 2014 When is Leica going to slim down this camera, and thus also make it lighter? I could understand the bulk of the first digital M might have been justified in light of the technology of the time, but things have moved on. The film Leicas are much easier to hold and handle--if you've never tried one, you should. Also, I wonder why the frame change mechanism is a knob off the top plate, instead of the lever on the front as in the film Leicas. The lever was easy to handle and an up-conversion could be done without replacing the top plate. I assume the new frame knob is an electric switch but the "lever" could easily be a switch too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodParticle/Hari Posted August 21, 2014 Share #31 Posted August 21, 2014 When is Leica going to slim down this camera, and thus also make it lighter? I could understand the bulk of the first digital M might have been justified in light of the technology of the time, but things have moved on. The film Leicas are much easier to hold and handle--if you've never tried one, you should. Also, I wonder why the frame change mechanism is a knob off the top plate, instead of the lever on the front as in the film Leicas. The lever was easy to handle and an up-conversion could be done without replacing the top plate. I assume the new frame knob is an electric switch but the "lever" could easily be a switch too. Until and unless I'm missing something, the pictures clearly show the frameline selector on the front? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lm_user Posted August 21, 2014 Share #32 Posted August 21, 2014 Funny how Leica seems to understand that hardly anybody wants the ugly red dot on the front of their camera. So they introduce a new improved model (M) and then later announce a small improvement on that, for a mere $1,000 more, and one of the few benefits of the higher priced model is the lack of a red dot. Maybe I could go into business selling adhesive backed chrome plated brass circles for Leica owners? Perhaps Leica should make the dot even larger - then the 1st upgrade would be a small dot - the second a chrome plated screw? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted August 21, 2014 Share #33 Posted August 21, 2014 It's a shame that a dome-headed screw was used because I'll have to find a flat headed one for my after market red dot logo to sit flat. Owing to the similarity of the M-P's name to the last Leica film M to be released I recommend that we adopt the name "M pause P" for this camera. Pete. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcraf Posted August 21, 2014 Share #34 Posted August 21, 2014 It's a shame that a dome-headed screw was used because I'll have to find a flat headed one for my after market red dot logo to sit flat. Owing to the similarity of the M-P's name to the last Leica film M to be released I recommend that we adopt the name "M pause P" for this camera. Pete. Is it me, or is it a bloody BIG ugly screw too, compared to that on other Ms? You'd only just cover it with a red dot......... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill W Posted August 21, 2014 Share #35 Posted August 21, 2014 I am with others wondering why they put such an ugly big screw on the front. It just stuck out immediately. And I know it has nothing to do with how it takes pictures, it is just a cosmetic thing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
horosu Posted August 21, 2014 Share #36 Posted August 21, 2014 So: A colour change (Monochrom) and a new screw (M)+ frame line lever are the big announcements for Leica's 100 anniversary. Whoohoo...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted August 21, 2014 Share #37 Posted August 21, 2014 (edited) "Leica Camera Wetzlar Germany". Black dial and thumb selector on back too. Nice Pete Edited August 21, 2014 by Stealth3kpl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
efreed2754 Posted August 21, 2014 Share #38 Posted August 21, 2014 Thought enough improvements from M9 to P that I did it. While at times miss the frame selector, not enough improvements to exchange M for MP now. Bigger question is were I buying into M for first time, would I go for M or MP? Just not sure. Perhaps if used continuous option more would go for it. Isn't Leica's raison d'être more deliberate thoughtful shooting rather than machine gunning it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chito Posted August 21, 2014 Share #39 Posted August 21, 2014 (edited) When is Leica going to slim down this camera, and thus also make it lighter? I could understand the bulk of the first digital M might have been justified in light of the technology of the time, but things have moved on. The film Leicas are much easier to hold and handle--if you've never tried one, you should. Also, I wonder why the frame change mechanism is a knob off the top plate, instead of the lever on the front as in the film Leicas. The lever was easy to handle and an up-conversion could be done without replacing the top plate. I assume the new frame knob is an electric switch but the "lever" could easily be a switch too. I would be very surprised if the next iteration of the M is substantially thinner. If you ever see a cutaway of a DSLR you'll notice that there are a bunch of circuit boards behind the sensor that make it very fat. SLRs used to be thinner and lighter as well, so until we see a mass market (Canon/Nikon) thin DSLR (with the sort of miniaturization that a smartphone has shown possible) I wouldn't expect a thin M. Also, I see that in the future the M240 will be known as "the one that didn't have the frame selector"... ugh Edited August 21, 2014 by Chito 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted August 21, 2014 Share #40 Posted August 21, 2014 I love my M http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m-type-240/304310-i-love-my-m.html not so bad looking at all in comparison with the M-P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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