mjh Posted August 21, 2014 Share #61 Posted August 21, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I didn't expect that big screw in the front instead of the Leica dot. But you knew the red dot was hiding a screw, no? Also the slightly bigger red dot (compared to the M9) was a dead giveaway that the screw might be bigger as well. People wanted Leica to remove that red dot and they got what they wanted – like Bluebeard’s wife when she opened the door to the forbidden room … 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 21, 2014 Posted August 21, 2014 Hi mjh, Take a look here The New LEICA M-P: Discreet, Faster, Harder. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Duane Pandorf Posted August 21, 2014 Share #62 Posted August 21, 2014 But you knew the red dot was hiding a screw, no? Also the slightly bigger red dot (compared to the M9) was a dead giveaway that the screw might be bigger as well. People wanted Leica to remove that red dot and they got what they wanted – like Bluebeard’s wife when she opened the door to the forbidden room … Those that upgrade to the new M-P that are using tape to cover their Red dot Leica can use the same tape to cover the screw! 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skimmel Posted August 21, 2014 Share #63 Posted August 21, 2014 It doesn't. That will implemented in the M-P2, and will cost you an extra $1,000. Oh, and I forgot - the thumb selector on the M-P2 will also be covered in sapphire glass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manoleica Posted August 21, 2014 Share #64 Posted August 21, 2014 We are about two years into a typical three years product cycle so the announcement of the next generation M is probably another year off. Surely you did not expect a revolutionary new product after just two years? Surely the "T" is Leica's revolutionary product.. Small step upgrades on the M range is good... its a pick-N-choose line up.. A good idea re:- leaving off the Red Dot.. Not too keen on the big screw facing the front.. Surely a small black L covering the screw would have looked good! but what do I know!! (wifey says absolutely No more Leicas...) - she hid Uncle Amex... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 21, 2014 Share #65 Posted August 21, 2014 I still prefer my screw. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/232629-the-new-leica-m-p-discreet-faster-harder/?do=findComment&comment=2654307'>More sharing options...
mmradman Posted August 21, 2014 Share #66 Posted August 21, 2014 I still prefer my screw. Much nicer looking P version. Obviously Leica couldn't produce M-P with smaller screw as you got there first, where do we order? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted August 22, 2014 Share #67 Posted August 22, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) A thousand more, for a scratched top, a scratch proof back, a missing ornament and a new ornament. And did I hear from some men that they are screwed? Sounds like there's a sale in the women's aisle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto Posted August 22, 2014 Share #68 Posted August 22, 2014 The 2 gig buffer is quite nice for working pros who need the speed, there have been times when the buffer on my M9 just can not keep up. If I was in the market for a new digital M this would be the obvious choice for me, but for M( is still working fine luckily. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdannn Posted August 22, 2014 Share #69 Posted August 22, 2014 I have the m240. If I did not have it, and was given the choice, I would not spend the extra $1000. I had an m9p and kept a screen protector on it anyway; just one of those stick on thin covers that I replaced every few months. I am really happy with the 240. Now if the next M is a 36 megapixel , well that might be very tempting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berth Posted August 22, 2014 Share #70 Posted August 22, 2014 Much nicer looking P version. Obviously Leica couldn't produce M-P with smaller screw as you got there first, where do we order? They have a little screw on my M no dash P. It'll cost you $4,995, the price tag from B&H Photo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mech Posted August 22, 2014 Share #71 Posted August 22, 2014 This is the real Leica MP that they could have release, but for some reason they can't and have forgotten how to design a true Leica camera. It is such a simple spec! By default a normal standard Leica Digital Rangefinder should have just these - Remove the movie button - Remove the external viewfinder port behind, it is a hole and any hole is ugly - Add back frameline selector - Does not care LCD glass - Do care LCD quality - Do care high ISO (quite a basic request) - Please give me engraving on top (almost all ppl like it) Such a strange sentiment long lost on Leica's hierarchy Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/232629-the-new-leica-m-p-discreet-faster-harder/?do=findComment&comment=2654362'>More sharing options...
mikeyknob Posted August 22, 2014 Share #72 Posted August 22, 2014 "Wow... That's an amazing photo!" "Thanks. It would've been only okay before but I took it with my upgraded camera that now has a faster buffer, a frame-line lever, no red dot and different glass on its LCD display." -- said nobody ever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r7photo Posted August 22, 2014 Share #73 Posted August 22, 2014 Is the sensor somehow new? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted August 22, 2014 Share #74 Posted August 22, 2014 MP owners will be able to compare the angle of "The Screw". cheers Dave S PS But I'd love one! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted August 22, 2014 Share #75 Posted August 22, 2014 Those that upgrade to the new M-P that are using tape to cover their Red dot Leica can use the same tape to cover the screw! Word on the street is that both Leica NJ and DAG camera have the official black Leica dot/screw camouflage tape available for $75 USD per roll. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pieterpronk Posted August 22, 2014 Share #76 Posted August 22, 2014 (edited) But you knew the red dot was hiding a screw, no? Also the slightly bigger red dot (compared to the M9) was a dead giveaway that the screw might be bigger as well. People wanted Leica to remove that red dot and they got what they wanted – like Bluebeard’s wife when she opened the door to the forbidden room … Interesting. I didn't know the ugly big Leica dot was bigger because of practical reasons, i.e. the bigger screw behind it. Is the screw also bigger because of practical reasons? Let me guess: it's because the hole is bigger? From what I understand the screw covers the access to the vertical rangefinder adjustment. Has this changed in such a way that a bigger tool is needed? I guess basically what I am asking is whether there is a practical reason for this cosmetic flaw (both the screw and the dot)? Edited August 22, 2014 by pieterpronk Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted August 22, 2014 Share #77 Posted August 22, 2014 (edited) I think you need your head examining to go along with this cynical marketing. Leica knew all along from the very start what the 'P' would be, and made sure there were enough things to have minor grumbles about with the M240 to ensure a later 'upgrade' would be snapped up by the gullible. They did exactly the same with the M9 and M9-P so don't tell me they haven't had this strategy planned from the M240's first prototype. Which raises the question we should all consider come the new M360 (or whatever), and that is Leica won't consider it a professional version of the camera. The professional version will come later, so early adopters get an amateur camera. So you can ignore any marketing that the M360 is pro spec, it will be a lie, the real pro camera is already designed and waiting to be released as the M360-P, .....one year before it's replacement. Would Canon or Nikon release the professional version after the amateur version? A new sensor would go in the highest spec camera and the next model would be a trickle down of technology from that, a cheaper amateur/enthusiast model. This is because their pro customers expect to use the camera for a long time before the next model, not for just a year before a genuine 'upgrade' comes along. Which also tells you what the Leica marketing department think about professionals never mind the cynicism they show towards mere enthusiasts. The only upgrade needed is in the Leica marketing and product planing departments, to stop the cynical milking of products and make them the best they can in the first place, then make a cheaper version if sales flag, not the other way around. Steve Edited August 22, 2014 by 250swb 17 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted August 22, 2014 Share #78 Posted August 22, 2014 IF I was buying new now I'd consider the M-P but I wouldn't replace my M with an M-P. I may upgrade my old M9 but at this stage I'll wait for the next M iteration. It is a bit like whether one is on the initial Apple iPhone or iPhone S upgrade cycle. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted August 22, 2014 Share #79 Posted August 22, 2014 Is Solms trying to send a message with that Screw:eek: Where is my M Digital Pure, CCD sensor, all black, 15% lighter, 1-2mm slimmer, dedicated iso dial, state of the art EVF, no movie mode? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 22, 2014 Share #80 Posted August 22, 2014 Not sure if my M-P sample would be as flawless as my M240 so i prefer keeping the latter for now unless the startup and wakeup times of the M-P are significantly faster. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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