Rona!d Posted June 7, 2021 Share #15461  Posted June 7, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) vor 2 Stunden schrieb thomasstellwag: sorry for the mislead, I was so fascinated by the geometry of my detail picture, that I didn´t think about false information 🙂 No problem, to keep it road legal it needs blinkers. The one on the side are quite common with the vehicle in question so not misleading a guess. Aside that they were not coupled to a special maker, they are on tractors and sportscars. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AZach Posted June 7, 2021 Share #15462  Posted June 7, 2021 4 hours ago, thomasstellwag said: now the new challenge, I stay with blue cars, this time not from Italy Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Could be a Messerschmitt 3-wheeler (Kabinenroller)? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasstellwag Posted June 7, 2021 Share #15463  Posted June 7, 2021 that was fast, yes you´re right Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4215534'>More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted June 7, 2021 Share #15464  Posted June 7, 2021 According to this threads system (maker and model), this vehicle is an FMR (maker) Messerschmitt KR200 (model). FMR = „Fahrzeug- und Maschinenbau Regensburg“ Messerschmitt produced this vehicle in their Regensburg factory (RSM = „Regensburger Stahl- und Maschinenbau“) until 1956, FMR followed as maker from 1957 to 1964. FMR logo shown on the vehicles front and hub cap. Irrelevant nitpicking of course ;-)))   1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted June 7, 2021 Share #15465  Posted June 7, 2021 My little daughter wanted one last xmas. Here the old model with Messerschmitt front logo where the riddle car wears the FMR logo.  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4215631'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted June 7, 2021 Share #15466  Posted June 7, 2021 A colleague at work, had one of the FMR Tg500 4 wheel models but with the 19 BHP Fichtel and Sachs engine replaced with a water cooled Suzuki 750 Triple tuned to give around 80 BHP. I am afraid I was never brave enough to accept the offer of a ride in in it. He claimed it was capable of well over 120MPH at which point I asked if that was before or after take off. Amazingly he never had an accident in it, even taking it round the Nordschleife on a Messerschmitt outing to Germany. Wilson 2 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted June 8, 2021 Share #15467  Posted June 8, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Wilson, you should have tried it. With the original small engine it could go 87 MPH which was pretty fast. There are Goggos which have a 200hp motorcycle engine. Scary! I have a funny story to share. When my dad was young he and his friends put a Messerschmitt on the jumping-off point of a ski jump which was located directly in front of the winter hotels breakfast terrace. Imagine the face of the lady who owned that thing! I have to ask my dad about the punishment of my grandfather who owned the hotel. I guess one year shoe polishing of the guest shoes.  1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted June 8, 2021 Share #15468  Posted June 8, 2021 10 hours ago, Rona!d said: According to this threads system (maker and model), this vehicle is an FMR (maker) Messerschmitt KR200 (model)....FMR = „Fahrzeug- und Maschinenbau Regensburg“......Messerschmitt produced this vehicle in their Regensburg factory („Regensburger Stahl- und Maschinenbau“) until 1956, FMR followed as maker from 1957 to 1964......FMR logo shown on the vehicles front and hub cap......Irrelevant nitpicking of course ;-))) Far from it, Ronald; that was very interesting to read! I've probably seen many more FMR-badged KR's than the original without once realising that they weren't 'Messerschmitt-Made'. Thanks for that tid-bit of trivia! Philip. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasstellwag Posted June 8, 2021 Share #15469  Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) when we are telling stories about this car- here is mine, told from a student friend from university. In Saar area, he was living in an appartment house. One of his neigbors, an old man, had such a Kabinenroller. Those bad guys waited sometimes for him, when he came home from shopping and had parked the car. Before he could open the cabin, they pushed the car below a balcony of the house. Thus he could not get off the car as he could not drive backwards. His wife in short learnt it and always looked out of the window when he was missing too long. In those cases, she went down, pushed the car back and freed man and meal. Edited June 8, 2021 by thomasstellwag 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZach Posted June 8, 2021 Share #15470 Â Posted June 8, 2021 These used to be popular as were registered as motorbikes so cheaper tax & fees and lower minimum age of driver. Have no proper access to my photo library for some days, so anybody please post the next one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasstellwag Posted June 8, 2021 Share #15471 Â Posted June 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, AZach said: These used to be popular as were registered as motorbikes so cheaper tax & fees and lower minimum age of driver. Have no proper access to my photo library for some days, so anybody please post the next one. the old licence class 4 allowed to drive bikes and car up to 250ccm, therefore Goggo, etc. even many Fiat 500 or 126 and Honda 600 reduced to 250ccm were driven by elder people Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted June 8, 2021 Share #15472  Posted June 8, 2021 vor 1 Stunde schrieb thomasstellwag: the old licence class 4 allowed to drive bikes and car up to 250ccm, therefore Goggo, etc. even many Fiat 500 or 126 and Honda 600 reduced to 250ccm were driven by elder people And those weren´t just traffic jam makers they made a hell of noise in high revs at the speed of maybe 40-60 km/h. Consumed more gasoline than the unlimited cars with larger engines too. "Natural selection by age" stopped most of them in the early 2000s. Not sure if this had been shared here. Old Goggomobile driver with class 4 driving license anno 1985:  1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted June 8, 2021 Share #15473  Posted June 8, 2021 We still have the same semi-mobile traffic jams in France with the driver licence free microcars from the likes of Aixam and Ligier. There are a couple of these single cylinder diesel cement mixer engined horrors in the village, where in normal years I would be usually be at this time of year. The road up to this mountain village is quite narrow, steep and very twisty. I used to be able to get past them in my 911 Turbo on the couple of very short straights and sometimes still can in my Three Wheeler Morgan but in my Panamera, I need some cooperation from the micro car driver. As they appear blissfully unaware of other road users, you usually don't get that, so stuck behind them for the whole 7km at 20-30 KPH, breathing in their diesel fumes. I note they have obviously irritated others even more than me, as one of them got torched or maybe it just self-immolated in shame. Wilson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted June 8, 2021 Share #15474  Posted June 8, 2021 Wilson, on test drives in the Alpes-Maritimes a couple of years ago we had a "road cleaning" Range Rover who (virtually) pushed those Ligiers from the roads before we came with the Jags. Sometimes he warned us by radio. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted June 8, 2021 Share #15475  Posted June 8, 2021 Any new entries? The thread is open to anybody who wants! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romquest Posted June 11, 2021 Share #15476  Posted June 11, 2021 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Here is one from a few years ago at Limerock racetrack in the USA. Hint, Ferrari's name is NOT on the car, yet. M9-P::90/2 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Here is one from a few years ago at Limerock racetrack in the USA. Hint, Ferrari's name is NOT on the car, yet. M9-P::90/2 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4218356'>More sharing options...
stuny Posted June 11, 2021 Share #15477 Â Posted June 11, 2021 That suggests an Alfa before Ferrari managed their team 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romquest Posted June 11, 2021 Share #15478  Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, stuny said: That suggests an Alfa before Ferrari managed their team My mistake in wording. Yep Ferrari was managing the team when he raced this Alfa 1935 8C. I meant to imply "before he designed his own cars..." but indeed it has his prancing horse on the hood. This cockpit pic taken at the 2015 Lime Rock Historic weekend where the car was run on the track flat out with glorious sound. This is the Nuvolari car that sold for a record £5.9 million in 2013. Been lurking for years, my first post.... 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted June 11, 2021 Share #15479  Posted June 11, 2021 The 8C Alfas are IMHO the nicest of all pre-war cars to drive. The engine is wonderfully torquey, they handle well and the brakes, unlike most Bugattis, are about as good as drums get. The only let down is the standard very slow gearchange, where 2nd and 3rd gears are in different zip codes. However, many of these cars have been converted to use the P3 Alfa "dog" box, with permanently engaged gears and dog ring selection, which is a huge improvement. The earlier Monza 2300 cars feel quite fragile but the later 8C2600 Corsa and 8C2900 cars are pretty bulletproof. Wilson 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted June 11, 2021 Share #15480 Â Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, romquest said: ...Been lurking for years, my first post.... In which case I'm sure we will all extend our welcome to you and hope you have a very enjoyable time here and, of course, thanks for the post! Philip. Edited June 11, 2021 by pippy 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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