hektor Posted June 29, 2021 Share #15561 Posted June 29, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) The Speed Six in which Barnato made his dash from Cannes to London was an H. J. Mulliner saloon. The correct version of events and the car have been well publicised to date whereby the identity of the actual Bentley is no longer in question. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hektor Posted June 29, 2021 Share #15562 Posted June 29, 2021 For a bit of fun I tried with the help of Google Earth to calculate Barnato's speed between Cannes and Boulogne. Avoiding motorways I approximated 1300 kilometers from which his fourteen hours and forty five minutes works out at possibly eighty eight kilometers an hour. I suspect it may have been even higher. Try averaging that today without using a motorway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted June 30, 2021 Share #15563 Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) Bentley state 43.43mph average - but they have the distance from Cannes to Calais as only 570miles which seems a bit short?! https://www.bentleymotors.com/en/world-of-bentley/the-bentley-story/history-and-heritage/heritage-cars/the-bentley-blue-train.html Edited June 30, 2021 by NigelG Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted June 30, 2021 Share #15564 Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) According to Google Earth, Cannes to Calais is 1,240 kms or 770 miles. I suspect the link provided by Nigel was written by someone in the PR department at Bentley. Edited June 30, 2021 by hektor addition Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted June 30, 2021 Share #15565 Posted June 30, 2021 17 minutes ago, NigelG said: Bentley state 43.43mph average - but they have the distance from Cannes to Calais as only 570miles which seems a bit short?! https://www.bentleymotors.com/en/world-of-bentley/the-bentley-story/history-and-heritage/heritage-cars/the-bentley-blue-train.html 5 minutes ago, hektor said: According to Google Earth, Cannes to Calais is 1,240 kms or 770 miles. Hello Everybody, Multiplying 43.43 mph X 770/570 = 58.67 mph approximately. Best Regards, Michael Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted June 30, 2021 Share #15566 Posted June 30, 2021 I think it was written by someone who hasn’t driven from Cannes to Calais to catch the last ferry to London 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted June 30, 2021 Share #15567 Posted June 30, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) The Calais to Cannes distance would have been a bit shorter via the Routes Nationales roads than the Autoroutes. I only know his route was via Paris and Lyon (N1 and N7) but from Lyon, I would guess he used the Route Napoleon via Grenoble and Digne-les-bains to Cannes (N85), which probably cuts nearly 100km off the distance that Google suggests. Wilson 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted June 30, 2021 Share #15568 Posted June 30, 2021 If one can believe Wikipedia, Barnato caught the ferry at Boulogne-sur-Mer. I have recalculated the distances as suggested by Wilson: Cannes-Digne, Digne-Grenoble, Grenoble-Lyon, Lyon-Auxerre (refuelling), Auxerre-Paris, Paris-Amiens, Amiens-Boulogne at 1,219 kilometers which he did in sixteen and a quarter hours. So the average speed is now 75 kph. Considering the roads at the time, the flat tyre and refuelling stops, it is still an impressive time. Wilson without admitting to exceeding the speed limit, how long does it take you from a French channel port to your house in Tourtour? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted June 30, 2021 Share #15569 Posted June 30, 2021 2 hours ago, hektor said: Wilson without admitting to exceeding the speed limit, how long does it take you from a French channel port to your house in Tourtour? You just can't speed on French autoroutes nowadays or you risk at best a fine and at worst car confiscation. Over 130 KPH = €90 over 160 = €180 and over 180 = trip to magistrates court for possible prison sentence and/or car confiscation. Before the limits were enforced on the Autoroutes, it used to take me between around 8 hours from Calais to Tourtour. Now it is just over 10 hours. The speed limits are now heavily enforced with both speed traps and automatic cameras. Quite a lot of French Autoroutes now have reduced a speed limit of 110 KPH (all of Alpes Maritimes). There is now no leeway at all. 1KPH over and you get done. I was fined last year going through Lyon where there is a 90 KPH automatic camera and I was doing 92. As I was on electric traction at the time, I just did not pick up that my speed had drifted up. Going round the Lyon by-pass, you cannot take your eyes off the road for a second to watch the speedometer. The analogue speedometer on my Panamera is difficult to read as it covers zero to 300 KPH over a 180º arc. The digital speedometer, due to software error, which took Porsche three years to correct, did not change from MPH to KPH when you changed the units on the analogue speedometer, so you were always having to do mental calculations from MPH into KPH. The speed limit on all non dual carriageway regular roads, many of which are excellent, straight and well surfaced, is a miserable 80 KPH/50 MPH. An edict from Monsieur Macaroon. Wilson 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted June 30, 2021 Share #15570 Posted June 30, 2021 Another form of taxation. The Army of Occupation (the government) really has taken the fun out of motoring. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted June 30, 2021 Share #15571 Posted June 30, 2021 Wilson - "Macaroon" is a coconut biscuit, and not French. I think the nick name would more correctly be "Macaron." Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted June 30, 2021 Share #15572 Posted June 30, 2021 Stuart, In the UK a Macaroon is an almond, egg white and sugar biscuit - no coconut, thank goodness. M. Macron is known in the British press as Monsieur Macaroon, as he so often ends up with egg on his face. The French are probably going to send him into retirement at next year's elections. Popular he is not. He is regarded outside the capital, as a Paris orientated technocrat, completely out of touch with the French people. Wilson 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted July 1, 2021 Share #15573 Posted July 1, 2021 12 hours ago, wlaidlaw said: ...He is regarded outside the capital, as a Paris orientated technocrat, completely out of touch with the French people... A country being governed by a party which is led by a buffoon who has no idea whatsoever about what life is like outside of the capital? Gosh! I cannot begin to imagine what that must be like!!! As far as speeding in France is concerned... In all my 40 years of driving I have only once received a ticket for speeding and that was a couple of years ago in France as we were heading down to La Rochelle. It was a beautiful summer's day, there was absolutely no-one else on the Autoroute (well, it was lunchtime after all) and I hadn't noticed that my speed had crept-up to 140kph in a 130 stretch of road. A roadside 'copper' with a radar-gun clocked us and radioed ahead to his chums who duly pulled us into a roadside police cabin area for the inevitable. The officers were extremely pleasant about the whole thing and, the folding having been handed over, we were soon back on our way at a legal pace. An amusing aspect to the whole thing was that the site of the 'offence' was Le Mans - which seemed rather ironic. Philip. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted July 1, 2021 Share #15574 Posted July 1, 2021 BTW, it's Nigel's turn to post the next mystery car Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted July 1, 2021 Share #15575 Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) I got pulled over by French police around 4 years ago in my 911 Turbo S for doing 100KPH on a regular road where the limit was 90 (now 80). He looked at the slip of paper he had been given and said: "Only 100KPH - were you going to a funeral". Generally the French police are pretty polite and avoid being judgemental. I have only once had a 10 minute long lecture on the evils of speeding when I got clocked overtaking a truck and was doing over 90KPH by the time I was past it, although I did slow down afterwards. Some years ago I was on a Ferrari rally in Italy based on Lake Maggiore, staying at a wonderful place, The Grand Hotel des Iles Borromées . We had a police motorcycle escort, riding 1000cc Moto Guzzi bikes on one of the autostrada sections, where they led us down the autostrada at a bit over 200 KPH, imperiously waving everyone else aside. There was an elderly (a bit like me) couple from the USA driving a lovely dark green 250GT Lusso, who said they were terrified and had never driven anywhere near that fast in their entire lives. Below is a pic of the Lusso which they had just picked up from Belgium two days before, parked behind our NART Spyder. This was a horrible day of weather, were we found out that the NART Spyders had been built for Los Angeles boulevards on sunny days and had no water sealing at all. Not in the door shuts, round the bulkhead, top of the windscreen etc. We had to go and buy waterproof trousers. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited July 1, 2021 by wlaidlaw 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4229561'>More sharing options...
masjah Posted July 1, 2021 Share #15576 Posted July 1, 2021 Wilson, given the speed you were doing, I think in your position I'd also be needing waterproof underpants. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted July 1, 2021 Share #15577 Posted July 1, 2021 Had some controls and stops on factory testdrives with new sportscars in southern France. Police was more interested in the new car than in my speed fortunately. One time they were in radio contact with a helicopter who told them when I will reach the position of the police car, go figure. They told the pilot about the engine size via radio, hahaha. In Italy and Spain I was more comfortable with the police, because in most cases it was a car with an animal in the logo 😉 With my "analog" private little roadster I´d have to rethink my driving these days, especially in the Alpes-Maritimes area where I used to have some fun on the hill pass roads my dad drove in his rallye-times in the 60s/70s. With the modern cars it´s easier to set a speed limiter, also the on-bord cameras care for a proper speed. But I don´t want to drive these cars down there. Times have changed, even my local scenic B and C-roads are under control now. Can become expensive. I´d prefer the police would rather control the exhaust noise of the two or three idiots who frequently disturb my evening wine in the garden. It´s not their speed, it´s their useless noise through the whole valley. These idiots are to blame for political discussions about weekend driving bans for ALL motorcyclists which would also affect my sunday Vespa drives to the bakery, grr. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted July 1, 2021 Share #15578 Posted July 1, 2021 Continuing the new theme of 'Relate That Car Anecdote' one which was witnessed by my brother springs to mind. Sipping on his morning espresso somewhere in Italy he heard the sound of a car approaching the little piazza where the cafe was sited. Into view from 'stage left' screamed a Ferrari going considerably faster than it should. My brother looked on amused as there were three police vehicles parked right in front of the cafe - one car and two 'bikes - whose drivers were also sipping their mid-morning coffees. They all watched as the Ferrari blasted round three sides of the square before disappearing out of sight at which point the officers of the law all broke out into a spontaneous round of applause.... Philip. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham (G4FUJ) Posted July 1, 2021 Share #15579 Posted July 1, 2021 3 hours ago, wlaidlaw said: ...parked behind our NART Spyder. This was a horrible day of weather, where we found out that the NART Spyders had been built for Los Angeles boulevards on sunny days and had no water sealing at all. Not in the door shuts, round the bulkhead, top of the windscreen etc. We had to go and buy waterproof trousers. Wilson Sounds a bit like my Morgan! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted July 3, 2021 Share #15580 Posted July 3, 2021 Nigel - It's still your turn to post a mystery car. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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