Do You Have A Trouble Free M11 or M11M?

[fotografr]

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1 hour ago, kiwidad said:

why do most pro's carry a backup camera. Oh that's right All cameras burp, fart and fail at inconvenient times, it's  not just Leica! Unless you shoot Nikon Canon or Sony that is and then no backup is needed! I have owned Nikon fuji Olympus and Leica and have had to pull batteries at tiems on every one of them! I never owned canon after they orphaned my FD stuff maybe they don't freeze 🙂

 

One of the photographers I was referring to did have a back up. It was a Hasselblad X2D, which he then switched to. Meanwhile, the art director, studio assistants and model sat there twiddling their thumbs while the Hassy was geared up. Kind of embarrassing.

When I was working, I always took two identical bodies on a shoot. In over 15 years of digital shooting I never had a single failure with either my Nikons or Canons, so no, all cameras do not burp, fart and fail. Your experience was quite different than mine and I used my systems heavily.

The thing about the M11 is that the failure rate seems to be so prevalent, even having a second body wouldn't make most pros comfortable. 

Edited April 25, 2024 by fotografr

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7 hours ago, fotografr said:

One of the photographers I was referring to did have a back up. It was a Hasselblad X2D, which he then switched to. Meanwhile, the art director, studio assistants and model sat there twiddling their thumbs while the Hassy was geared up. Kind of embarrassing.

When I was working, I always took two identical bodies on a shoot. In over 15 years of digital shooting I never had a single failure with either my Nikons or Canons, so no, all cameras do not burp, fart and fail. Your experience was quite different than mine and I used my systems heavily.

The thing about the M11 is that the failure rate seems to be so prevalent, even having a second body wouldn't make most pros comfortable. 

It kept me from buying an M11, I'm not going to pay that kind of money for a product with a high rate of issues.  

[lct]

Never used a Leica for my pro needs (legal photo) in 30+ years. Would be like driving a Bentley to carry vegetables so to speak 😄 but i admire even more those pro photogs who use a Leica for their job. Are there many of them besides LUF members actually? Just curious.

[fotografr]

1 hour ago, lct said:

Never used a Leica for my pro needs (legal photo) in 30+ years. Would be like driving a Bentley to carry vegetables so to speak 😄 but i admire even more those pro photogs who use a Leica for their job. Are there many of them besides LUF members actually? Just curious.

Depending on the type of shoot, I quite often used my M6s back in the film days. I did a lot of environmental portrait work for magazines and the M6 system worked perfectly for them. 

[charlesphoto99]

4 hours ago, lct said:

Never used a Leica for my pro needs (legal photo) in 30+ years. Would be like driving a Bentley to carry vegetables so to speak 😄 but i admire even more those pro photogs who use a Leica for their job. Are there many of them besides LUF members actually? Just curious.

Of course. I certainly do (and almost exclusively now). There's also a well known photo agency called Magnum where many of the photographers, currently and historically, use Leica's. But plenty of pros I know who do who would go nowhere near this forum (or any photo forum for that matter). 

[Olaf_ZG]

16 hours ago, fotografr said:

One of the photographers I was referring to did have a back up. It was a Hasselblad X2D, which he then switched to. Meanwhile, the art director, studio assistants and model sat there twiddling their thumbs while the Hassy was geared up. Kind of embarrassing.

When I was working, I always took two identical bodies on a shoot. In over 15 years of digital shooting I never had a single failure with either my Nikons or Canons, so no, all cameras do not burp, fart and fail. Your experience was quite different than mine and I used my systems heavily.

The thing about the M11 is that the failure rate seems to be so prevalent, even having a second body wouldn't make most pros comfortable. 

I did the only ten years of weddings. Mostly Nikon, always a backup.

I needed it when I kept a camera underwater, dropped a lens and had flashes being exploding (metz).

My cameras, nor lenses, nor cards (sandisk only), never let me down.

Neither did leica, but then, I don’t have either a m11 or sl3, and most probably won’t buy them either.

[Balta]

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On my side,

No freezes since I have the camera ~ 10 months, >300 Photos

 

M11 black #5681xyz

Fw: 2.02

Sd Card: SanDisk 128GB extreme pro 170MB/s, formated in camera

Lenses: Leicas, 6bit coded and non 6 bit coded

 

 

[Smogg]

37 minutes ago, Balta said:

On my side,

No freezes since I have the camera ~ 10 months, >300 Photos

 

M11 black #5681xyz

Fw: 2.02

Sd Card: SanDisk 128GB extreme pro 170MB/s, formated in camera

Lenses: Leicas, 6bit coded and non 6 bit coded

 

 

300 photos in 10 months? Please write to me when you decide to sell your camera😂

[lct]

19 minutes ago, Smogg said:

300 photos in 10 months? Please write to me when you decide to sell your camera😂

As soon as you receive it it could begin to freeze i suspect 😄 Just kidding.

 

[charlesphoto99]

6 hours ago, Smogg said:

300 photos in 10 months? Please write to me when you decide to sell your camera😂

I bought my M10M from somebody who never even took it out of the box. Saved myself about two grand. 

[Smogg]

11 minutes ago, charlesphoto99 said:

I bought my M10M from somebody who never even took it out of the box. Saved myself about two grand. 

I now understand why @lct’s camera never froze😂

[lct]

1 hour ago, Smogg said:

I now understand why @lct’s camera never froze😂

I bought mine new but i don't use it like a machine gun admittedly 😄

[Smogg]

4 minutes ago, lct said:

I bought mine new but i don't use it like a machine gun admittedly 😄

On a 3 hour walk I take on average 600-700 frames. Is this a lot?

[charlesphoto99]

6 minutes ago, Smogg said:

On a 3 hour walk I take on average 600-700 frames. Is this a lot?

That's a lot, even by my standards. But if you live in a fascinating place to photograph, why not? With digital, the film and processing's already paid for.  

[scott kirkpatrick]

It takes me half a day to even get to 100 frames, shooting for myself.  Shooting portraits to catch the right expression, I do machine gun, but using my trigger finger for multiple shots, not continuous.  I leave image review off, only review when I have some question to sort out.

 

[T25UFO]

2 hours ago, Smogg said:

On a 3 hour walk I take on average 600-700 frames. Is this a lot?

Yes ✔️

[lct]

Reminds me of the 1/8000s max shutter speed of the M8. Very few people were using that speed the camera had issues with IIRC. Leica did reduce it to 1/4000s then and nobody complained. Maybe they will do the same with the high speed burst mode of the M11, i have no idea.

[Viv]

On 2/27/2024 at 4:34 PM, fotografr said:

I've been following the threads here about freeze ups and corrupt files for quite some time. 

I'm interested in knowing if there are M11 and M11M users who have not had these problems. Please acknowledge in this thread if you have trouble free M11 and/or M11M cameras. Thanks! 

My M11 is trouble-free.

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[fotografr]

5 hours ago, Smogg said:

On a 3 hour walk I take on average 600-700 frames. Is this a lot?

Depends on how much you like to sit at a computer editing the shots. For me, that sounds like a lot.

[kiwidad]

On 4/24/2024 at 10:45 PM, fotografr said:

One of the photographers I was referring to did have a back up. It was a Hasselblad X2D, which he then switched to. Meanwhile, the art director, studio assistants and model sat there twiddling their thumbs while the Hassy was geared up. Kind of embarrassing.

When I was working, I always took two identical bodies on a shoot. In over 15 years of digital shooting I never had a single failure with either my Nikons or Canons, so no, all cameras do not burp, fart and fail. Your experience was quite different than mine and I used my systems heavily.

The thing about the M11 is that the failure rate seems to be so prevalent, even having a second body wouldn't make most pros comfortable. 

Prevalent,! Assumption? Well yes. Lots of posters here all excited but what is the real % Problem is we don’t know how many sold and so it hard to quantify the depth of the problem! it could be just a small percentage or it might not be. 
 

if you never had to power off or power pull any other brand I’d say your in the minority there , at least based on the forum whining of Nikon canon and Fuji owners 
 

I love the comment on most pros confident. A bold assumption since the extent of the problem  is unknown and it’s not like they fail they just go down for a few seconds. I am astonished a pro couldn’t cycle the power faster than switch to the blad!

 

i tire of all the folk quick to trash a wonderful camera frankly

 

Technology at the bleeding edge is far less reliable so maybe buy older stuff if it’s a concern. It one of those don’t rush to update the firmware things. Computers are no different.