Best M10 Strap

[charlesphoto99]

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2 hours ago, Jeff S said:

Discontinued but can be found.  My comment was in response to the post that the Upstrap was a better strap and that the 14312 had slippage concerns.

Jeff

I'm not saying the 14312 isn't anything but a good strap. But at the prices I've seen for them, the Upstrap is a great equivalent at almost half the price (and the pad is actually more bendy than the Leica so wrist wrapping is easier). Their previous version I'm still using after fifteen years on one of my bodies, which was the kevlar strap with a thicker pad but with non-slip bumps on both sides so no matter which way you threw it over the shoulder it wouldn't slip. 

[charlesphoto99]

2 hours ago, Adam Bonn said:

 

IMO anyone concerned about slippage should probably wear their camera so that the strap crosses the chest

Wearing cross shoulder is pretty much the equivalent of a "never ready" case imo. I'll wear it that way if I'm hoofing it across town, but not while shooting. If shooting, and esp if working with two bodies, then across the shoulder will keep it at the ready for a quick exchange up to the eye. 

[Adam Bonn]

I bought a new 14312 from an AD last march and it was €55 which wasn’t extortionate IMO (way cheaper than many artisan type straps and MUCH cheaper than anything Leica offer in leather)

I don’t have issues wearing cross body, the camera is by my hip, I want to shoot I lift it to my eye, bang there it is (I have the strap quite long) if I don’t want to shoot, I slide it round a bit more so that it’s where my arse/small of my back is and the non-slip pad keeps it there

Started doing this when I had my kid and suddenly needed to be able to drop anything my hands and grab an errant toddler and this way of having the camera just stuck… plus I’ve been known to climb things to get a shot and that’s asking for trouble with it just over my shoulder!

[MikeMyers]

I got to try my "MegaGear" for the first time yesterday - loved it.  Comfortable, simple, didn't slip, beautiful, real leather, and I like it much more than the #14312 which has been my favorite for decades.  That it is so inexpensive is a bonus.  I bought two more, one for my M10, and one to have available for the future.  I'll probably install one on my M10 tomorrow.  Maybe my M3 too.  

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[Jeff S]

I wouldn’t want what appear to be metal rings, mid-strap, dangling in my camera bag. Leather also isn’t as thin and flexible as nylon. And I prefer black straps for my M bodies. But whatever floats one’s boat. 
 

Jeff

[Chimichurri]

On 2/26/2021 at 11:35 AM, Snipe10 said:

Getting my first M10 and need a strap. Looking at the Holdfast Maven which is a plain strap but well made. It's flat instead of braided and made of buffalo hide. Any other recommendations? Thanks, 

I bought this one and it’s perfect for me. Some don’t like it because they say it’s not thin enough. They have a thin version, but I like the normal version because it takes all the weight away and you don’t feel the camera. I don’t wrap the straps around me wrist or any of that. I wear my camera cross body style all the time. And you can order them in custom lengths. For me it has to be at least 110cm. 

i tried the thin ones. I tried the rope ones. I tried the one that came in the box. They all dig into my collar bone. 

it’s The rock n roll black is black. Smells of beautiful leather. Gets softer every day. 

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Edited October 22, 2022 by Chimichurri

[piblondin]

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On 1/20/2022 at 5:38 AM, Mikep996 said:

Tried yet another aftermarket strap, the Vi Vante Ultime braided strap.  It looks great and it's very nicely made/excellent quality leather.  I figured it was 'right' for my 10R BP. 

I used it for one day and replaced it with a good old Leica 14312 strap.  ☹️   

Just like all the other 'designer straps' I have tried, the construction/appearance gets in the way of functionality.  In this case, the braided leather becomes too "bulky" of a package and I had to often physically shift it out of the way take a picture.  So, IMO it's useless as a functional strap.  OTOH,  it's perfect for a "display camera." But I don't own one of those.

Every time I try somebody's idea of how a strap should LOOK, I end up coming back to Leica's idea of how a camera strap should WORK.  🤔 

I have to admit that the 14312's low cost and lack of any pretension seems decidedly un-Leica-like.  They probably fired the designer years ago!  

 

 

 

Have you ever tried an UPstrap? I'm curious to know how it compares to the Leica strap, which has also been my favorite for 20+ years. 

[david strachan]

2 minutes ago, piblondin said:

Have you ever tried an UPstrap? I'm curious to know how it compares to the Leica strap, which has also been my favorite for 20+ years. 

That post is over 2 years old...don't expect a reply.

Stick to the Leica strap you've used for so long...forget the nasty ostentatious sausages roll/convalutions  you have to pack into your bag...every time

All best  😊 

[piblondin]

16 hours ago, david strachan said:

That post is over 2 years old...don't expect a reply.

Stick to the Leica strap you've used for so long...forget the nasty ostentatious sausages roll/convalutions  you have to pack into your bag...every time

All best  😊 

If a thread already exists for a given topic, why start a new one? 

I've found the Leica straps increasingly difficult to find new, so I ordered an UPstrap to try out. As you noted, I'm concerned about whether it will pack easily into my compact camera bags. 

[charlesphoto99]

19 hours ago, piblondin said:

Have you ever tried an UPstrap? I'm curious to know how it compares to the Leica strap, which has also been my favorite for 20+ years. 

I swear by my Upstraps (now Journey Camera)! I use the small Friendship pad. I've tried and tried to get people on here into them, but the leather boutique thing is just too popular. What I love about the Upstrap is it doesn't slip off your shoulder, so no shrugging. I actually have as well one of the older Kevlar models from about fifteen plus years ago still going strong, currently on my M10M. 

[charlesphoto99]

2 hours ago, piblondin said:

If a thread already exists for a given topic, why start a new one? 

I've found the Leica straps increasingly difficult to find new, so I ordered an UPstrap to try out. As you noted, I'm concerned about whether it will pack easily into my compact camera bags. 

Did you get the small Friendship? Pretty much identical in size to the OG Leica strap. No problem for even the most compact bag. 

[piblondin]

On 1/31/2024 at 1:29 PM, charlesphoto99 said:

Did you get the small Friendship? Pretty much identical in size to the OG Leica strap. No problem for even the most compact bag. 

I placed an order a few days ago and am awaiting shipping. I want something secure and lightweight that will fit in my smaller bags, which are just large enough to fit an M with a 35mm or 50mm attached, so the strap ends up getting jammed in around the lens. My primary concern re the Journey strap is whether the shoulder pad is flexible enough to wrap partially around the lens. 

Edited February 2, 2024 by piblondin

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[Jackalope]

On 10/21/2022 at 11:43 PM, Chimichurri said:

I bought this one and it’s perfect for me. Some don’t like it because they say it’s not thin enough. They have a thin version, but I like the normal version because it takes all the weight away and you don’t feel the camera. I don’t wrap the straps around me wrist or any of that. I wear my camera cross body style all the time. And you can order them in custom lengths. For me it has to be at least 110cm. 

i tried the thin ones. I tried the rope ones. I tried the one that came in the box. They all dig into my collar bone. 

it’s The rock n roll black is black. Smells of beautiful leather. Gets softer every day. 

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I'd been using an old PD leash on my newish M10, but it felt a bit insubstantial compared to the camera. Just received a rocknroll red dot, which feels wonderful; will report!

[piblondin]

8 hours ago, Jackalope said:

I'd been using an old PD leash on my newish M10, but it felt a bit insubstantial compared to the camera. Just received a rocknroll red dot, which feels wonderful; will report!

My concern re the leash is that it would scratch the camera. Is that possible?

[Strmbrg]

The split-ring solution is not well thought. At least not beyond theoretical desk-top-thinking. 🙂
The end-edges are not smooth, but rather like cutting-devices. Both on camera lugs and on the strap-loop. One has to smooth it with a file and even use a little plastic ring as on my picture. Rather complicated...
I have now ordered the well-reviewed Leica 14312-strap. Mainly to find out if the intelligently designed connections can be used even on other straps.

By the way, I have come to the conclusion that a 125-length is much better than the more usual 100+. The former allows me to use the strap cross-body and even to shoot vertical without problem. I see many using a neck-strap as a wrist-strap by twisting it around the wrist. To me that is silly, because if I loose the grip on the camera, the strap simply will twist loose and the camera falls. I make a loop instead. It tightens and locks if I loose the grip.

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Edited April 14, 2024 by Strmbrg

[Almizilero]

So many good looking straps ! I switch between the Rock 'n Roll Film Strap and the super minimal Strapco Finger Strap.

Does anyone use the Oberwerth Mosel? I like that it has a wire inside to protect against cuting. But I wonder if the neck piece is removable. I'd like it to be minimalistic without a big neck piece.

[AceVentura1986]

On 2/26/2021 at 5:54 AM, a.noctilux said:

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We have our best strap, each of us not same type though.

Mine after using/trying other straps, I always return to same as Boojay's 14312 !

This strap really is exceptional. Years ago, I bought my wife the original Fuji X100. When I saw the poor quality of the Fuji strap and its Rube Goldberg-like mechanism, I got her a Leica 14312 strap to go with it. They are attractive in the sense that we’ll-designed and understated products are attractive but they will not draw attention. 
 

These aren’t fancy or expensive but they are, imho, the best straps for lighter weight cameras like Leicas, Fujis, and even Sony’s. .

[charlesphoto99]

5 hours ago, Strmbrg said:

 I see many using a neck-strap as a wrist-strap by twisting it around the wrist. To me that is silly, because if I loose the grip on the camera, the strap simply will twist loose and the camera falls. I make a loop instead. It tightens and locks if I loose the grip.

 

I've wrapped my strap around my wrist for decades. I don't think anyone that does it does it for the intention of breaking a drop, or at least I don't, but rather to quickly get it out of the way while shooting. The only problem I've had with thinking my camera is going to drop is when I've tried using silky rope or soft leather boutique straps that slip off the shoulder. That's the reason I only use the old school M6 style Leica strap with the pad, or mostly for the last twenty five years the excellent but boring Upstraps which also have a grippy pad. No shoulder slippage also means no shoulder shrugging. 

Edited April 14, 2024 by charlesphoto99

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[Strmbrg]

1 hour ago, charlesphoto99 said:

I've wrapped my strap around my wrist for decades. I don't think anyone that does it does it for the intention of breaking a drop, or at least I don't, but rather to quickly get it out of the way while shooting. The only problem I've had with thinking my camera is going to drop is when I've tried using silky rope or soft leather boutique straps that slip off the shoulder. That's the reason I only use the old school M6 style Leica strap with the pad, or mostly for the last twenty five years the excellent but boring Upstraps which also have a grippy pad. No shoulder slippage also means no shoulder shrugging. 

Well, it can be more purposes than one. With my loop I can easily let the camera hang on my wrist if I need to use both hands occasionally.

The exceeding strap length I can grip to keep away with the right hand too, as i hold the camera. Or, of course I can use the loop AND wrap the strap around the wrist to get rid of any exceeding length. This Cooph braided strap is very supple and therefore very easy to shape as I want it.