NicholasT Posted September 21, 2019 Share #501 Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Trying before buying is definitely the best approach, not always possible so more often than not I find its an exercise in narrowing ones choices and then being willing to pull the trigger on a purchase knowing that it may or may not work out. This is where reviews by people who actually use the gear in the field, document their experience in a thoughtful review and couple with good visual evidence, comes in handy. Both Jono and Ming Thein are good examples of people who do it well. I recently switched to CL as my primary camera together with Q2 (for travel) I just sold my SL while I wait to decide if SL2 announcement is compelling enough to take the plunge, turn to Panasonic S1 or S1R or just pass altogether on the full frame interchangeable camera and just stick exclusively with my CL/Q2 combo. Jono's review of the CL was instrumental in my decision to spend the money to try out the CL. Before doing so I didn't think I had any interest in the camera both because of the smaller sensor ( I was a full frame snob). I also didn't think I'd find the CL controls particularly appealing. I loved the SL and found the Q2 the most satisfying camera I've ever used, with single lens limitation being its only drawback. That said I have found the CL to be a wonderful combination between Image Quality (best crop sensor on the market), handling (far better than expected), flexibility (inter changeable lens vs Q2) and portability (TL glass is truly outstanding particularly considering its size / weight) I made the ultimate decision to take the CL plunge using my gut and personal set of criteria, but have to say that Jono's review is what got be started down the CL path and for that I'm very grateful. Turning back to Steve Huff I very much agree with Tailwagger's point re the disconnect between Steve's stated passion for photography and the rather mundane photos that he posts in his reviews. Considering how much he says that he loves photography he should spend more time honing his craft, going out shooting and provide more inspiring visual evidence in his reviews. Ultimately it does go back to a disconnect between words and deeds. Sadly in our social media driven age we seem to have completely lost touch with this very basic concept. This will be my last comment re Steve Huff as I've already said more than I intended. Edited September 21, 2019 by NicholasT 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DirkS Posted September 21, 2019 Share #502 Posted September 21, 2019 I agree. The CL is great! It`s not a compromise between Image quality, handling, flexibility and portability, it`s the best combination of those. This is the only point, why I maybe won`t buy the SL2. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicholasT Posted September 21, 2019 Share #503 Posted September 21, 2019 1 minute ago, DirkS said: I agree. The CL is great! It`s not a compromise between Image quality, handling, flexibility and portability, it`s the best combination of those. This is the only point, why I maybe won`t buy the SL2. +1 Just edited my post using your term "combination". I totally agree. Every time I shoot with the CL I'm reminded as you say there really is no compromise involved. Its flat out one of the best image makers on the market and very satisfying to use. Beyond the camera TL 35 1.4 is in a class of its own and try finding a better wide zoom lens than the 11-23 or long lens than the 55-135 that won't break your back after a long day of shooting. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 21, 2019 Share #504 Posted September 21, 2019 +2. I only wish there was more native AF glass available like the Summilux-TL 35mm... Similar to Sony and Canon Leica seems keep APS-C going but with a minimum of investment as they really want you to buy into the FF system... One new lens in the last 3 years is really not cutting it IMHO... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Q Posted September 21, 2019 Share #505 Posted September 21, 2019 That's precisesly why it's hard to part with Fuji APS-C. Their lens lineup is incredible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted September 21, 2019 Share #506 Posted September 21, 2019 3 hours ago, budjames said: Yes, but in that year, I get the use of an excellent 24-90 and SL body for the used purchase price of $6,400. I am really liking using my Noctilux 50mm f0.95 on the SL. I can actually focus it wide open quickly, something that is more difficult on my M10. Of course, and I agree, so perhaps you misunderstood the posts from me and others, which were solely about how you allocated your $6495 purchase price. You wrote here that your SL purchase price was $1500 of the $6495, leaving the 24-90 at $4995, which is higher than a new one at list price. New ones can be had for under list, and used ones, even mint, for much less. So the split is more realistically $2500/$4000 or $3000//$3500. Either way, $6495 was a good buy, as I said, and your SL (assuming it’s in great condition) should be worth much more than $1500 when you sell or trade for your SL2. Good news, right? I’m not a believer in camera gear as investments; rather tools to use and enjoy. So I hope you enjoy yours to the max. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted September 22, 2019 Share #507 Posted September 22, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Am 20.9.2019 um 06:41 schrieb sillbeers15: It is already 20th in Asia. So another 4 more days to SL2 announcement as predicted by Leicarumor [...]? If you hear anything in about 28 hours, please, let us know. We are bound to find out later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted September 22, 2019 Share #508 Posted September 22, 2019 Am 21.9.2019 um 11:27 schrieb budjames: [...], I find that there is less sources for information and reviews about Leica gear. [...] You may or may not find some quick shot comparisons between the 50 Summicron-SL and the 75 Summicron-SL I posted in another thread useful. All pictures were taken over a couple of hours yesterday. https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/301772-apo-50-summicron-sl-vs-apo-75-summicron-sl-image-thread/?tab=comments#comment-3824361 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexx Posted September 22, 2019 Share #509 Posted September 22, 2019 6 hours ago, Chaemono said: You may or may not find some quick shot comparisons between the 50 Summicron-SL and the 75 Summicron-SL I posted in another thread useful. All pictures were taken over a couple of hours yesterday. https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/301772-apo-50-summicron-sl-vs-apo-75-summicron-sl-image-thread/?tab=comments#comment-3824361 I did fin that useful in that thread, thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted September 23, 2019 Share #510 Posted September 23, 2019 It feels a bit like Christmas Eve. 😁 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailwagger Posted September 23, 2019 Share #511 Posted September 23, 2019 42 minutes ago, Chaemono said: It feels a bit like Christmas Eve. 😁 Hmmm... are we expecting a few lumps of coal in the sock nailed to mantle? Or have you been a good little one this year? 😃 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted September 23, 2019 Share #512 Posted September 23, 2019 I thought that it was postponed to October 🤔 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted September 23, 2019 Share #513 Posted September 23, 2019 vor 4 Minuten schrieb nicci78: I thought that it was postponed to October 🤔 Could well be. I was just trying to preserve the magic of believing in Santa Claus, or Nokishita in this case. 😂 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jk1002 Posted September 24, 2019 Share #514 Posted September 24, 2019 Qoute from Steve Huff website "... will say this. I was invited to a massive Leica event in October. I had to SADLY turn it down as I had a prior obligation for the same exact date that I could not get out of but my guess is that it will be for the SL2. Then again, who knows! Maybe they will surprise us with more or something else entirely. I did not sign an NDA so I have no clue if it was for the SL but with the leak… it all points to a new SL being available this October ; )" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted September 24, 2019 Share #515 Posted September 24, 2019 “Massive” to me implies something special will be introduced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted September 24, 2019 Share #516 Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) Or possibly more than one product. We have also been told that there would be an updated lens roadmap. Jeff Edited September 24, 2019 by Jeff S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 24, 2019 Share #517 Posted September 24, 2019 50 minutes ago, Chaemono said: “Massive” to me implies something special will be introduced. In general yes. With Steve it could mean anything from ten persons invited upwards. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michali Posted September 24, 2019 Share #518 Posted September 24, 2019 1 hour ago, jaapv said: In general yes. With Steve it could mean anything from ten persons invited upwards. Agreed. He is at times prone to an element of hyperbole... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillbeers15 Posted September 24, 2019 Share #519 Posted September 24, 2019 12 hours ago, Chaemono said: It feels a bit like Christmas Eve. 😁 Except this’Christmas’ could move and delay,...kids would hate Christmas Day if you move it about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcolinger Posted September 24, 2019 Share #520 Posted September 24, 2019 They didn’t say if it was foreseen for 2019. Perhaps September, 24th 2020. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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