acapella Posted October 17, 2019 Share #881  Posted October 17, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) And don’t forget the advantage (as I see it) to use the ‘original’ SL lenses in 20MP crop mode! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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helged Posted October 17, 2019 Share #882  Posted October 17, 2019 27 minutes ago, acapella said: And don’t forget the advantage (as I see it) to use the ‘original’ SL lenses in 20MP crop mode! Why not simply cropping the full-frame image? Just curious... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
acapella Posted October 17, 2019 Share #883  Posted October 17, 2019 Of course, always a possibility, you are right. But the ‘real time’ framing during crop-mode shooting could be an advantage.  And it is one step less during post processing. A matter of taste I guess. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted October 17, 2019 Share #884  Posted October 17, 2019 I guess that I may have started a new trend here : use SL2 in APS-C crop mode only 😂   Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted October 17, 2019 Share #885  Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, bags27 said: Which is precisely why just last week I grabbed a very slightly used TL 11-23. Keeping that and the 55-135; otherwise, all M and R mounts, though, like nicci, I suspect I may eventually weaken for an L prime. The trio of TL zooms are excellent but quite slow. However paired with SL2 IBIS, they may be the best bang for the buck in Leica world.  On the other hand the trio of SL zooms + Summilux-SL look quite out of place. Like four elephants in a porcelain shop. Edited October 17, 2019 by nicci78 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted October 17, 2019 Share #886  Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, nicci78 said: The trio of TL zooms are excellent but quite slow. However paired with SL2 IBIS, they may be the best bang for the buck in Leica world.  On the other hand the trio of SL zooms + Summilux-SL look quite out of place. Like four elephants in a porcelain shop. I'm definitely accentuating thread drift here, but.... I think the 11-23 and 55-135 are faster and significantly better than the 18-56, which is fine, but not as good and quite slow at the portraiture end. I swapped my 18-56, which I found I rarely used, for the 11-23. On an SL2, I think a fast 35 M mount lens is a better all-arounder than the 18-56. Edited October 17, 2019 by bags27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted October 17, 2019 Share #887  Posted October 17, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) I guess that I may have started a new trend here : use SL2 in APS-C crop mode only 😂   2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted October 17, 2019 Share #888  Posted October 17, 2019 I’ve read good things about TL lenses, but would they provide less weather sealing on the SL2 than native SL lenses? Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted October 17, 2019 Share #889  Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) TL lenses are not weather sealed at all. You will need SL and M lenses for that purpose. 11-23 & 55-135  are definitely better. It is just that 18-56 desperately needs stabilisation at 56mm with only f/5.6  We may just need a CL2 with IBIS  Edited October 17, 2019 by nicci78 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted October 17, 2019 Share #890  Posted October 17, 2019 Lack of weather sealing on TL lenses would be a deal breaker for my intended use on SL2, despite obvious size/weight advantages. The 24-90, despite its heft, remains an option for my shooting needs, but the size (with added lack of internal focusing) is troubling. Shame Leica doesn’t produce some smaller native options, even if slower and/or with narrower focal length range.  The X1DII system remains attractive in part for this reason, but its lack of either OIS or IBIS offsets other benefits.  Can’t have it all, apparently. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted October 17, 2019 Share #891  Posted October 17, 2019 Panasonic and Sigma are also rolling out weather proof L mount lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo98 Posted October 17, 2019 Share #892 Â Posted October 17, 2019 The TL lenses are nice.. but it bothers me to lose more than half of my data Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted October 17, 2019 Share #893  Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, bags27 said: Panasonic and Sigma are also rolling out weather proof L mount lenses. True, but I choose a system in part based on native lens options, particularly for core use.  If I buy into the SL system, however, I would definitely consider the Lumix 70-200 ‘Pro’ in lieu of the monster SL 90-280 as a secondary lens, regardless of the stellar performance of the latter. For broader Lumix lens use, I’d consider the S1R rather than the SL2.  Good to have choices nonetheless. Jeff Edited October 17, 2019 by Jeff S 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted October 17, 2019 Share #894 Â Posted October 17, 2019 vor 13 Minuten schrieb Donzo98: The TL lenses are nice.. but it bothers me to lose more than half of my data The thought of it or because you have a practical need for more pixels/data? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo98 Posted October 17, 2019 Share #895 Â Posted October 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, Chaemono said: The thought of it or because you have a practical need for more pixels/data? The thought of it... In addition to the fact that the SL glass is better in terms of IQ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted October 17, 2019 Share #896  Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) vor 50 Minuten schrieb Donzo98: The thought of it... In addition to the fact that the SL glass is better in terms of IQ. Doesn’t bother me a bit.  Renouncing the superior optical performance of the SL primes bothers me more.  The 55-135 TL is a stunner, though.  But it’s a bit slow and requires high ISO for fast shutter speed in order to avoid camera shake at the long end.  The SL2 with IBIS is just what the doctor ordered for this lens. Edited October 17, 2019 by Chaemono 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Q Posted October 17, 2019 Share #897 Â Posted October 17, 2019 So when is the big announcement? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joakim Posted October 17, 2019 Share #898  Posted October 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Jeff S said: Can’t have it all, apparently. I think that summarizes buying a (any) new camera pretty well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted October 17, 2019 Share #899  Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) On 10/12/2019 at 3:21 PM, nicci78 said: Last minute info :... - available end of November - 5,990€ inc VAT in EU  I think that you know everything   Edited October 17, 2019 by helged Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted October 17, 2019 Share #900 Â Posted October 17, 2019 27 minutes ago, Mr.Q said: So when is the big announcement? Very soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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