Would you buy a SL 50 mm Noctolux?

[Sandokan]

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23 hours ago, Simone_DF said:

Not necessarily. Other companies managed to squeeze the form factor with excellent results in terms of image performance. 

I think "yes necessarily" for a Leica. Their design criteria for SL lenses has made all of them several times the size of the M equivalents. The cheaper and easier design for Leica would have been stick AF motors onto the M lenses, but I am guessing that did not give the image quality they want.

Once a company has design principles, they do not deviate from them or they come up with a different product line following new principles ... so with that new thought in my mind, maybe Leica do produce a "small" and less than perfect SL Noctlux  . But ... I doubt I buy that either as I would rather stick my M lens on the SL. 

Other companies may produce a "small" noctilux for SL mount. 

[BernardC]

6 hours ago, Sandokan said:

The cheaper and easier design for Leica would have been stick AF motors onto the M lenses, but I am guessing that did not give the image quality they want.

Image quality isn't the issue. AF lenses need to have the lightest possible moving elements, in order to improve responsiveness. Sticking big motors on M lenses would be, to coin a phrase, "slow AF".

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[Pelu2010]

So this is a very old Canon 50 mm 1,2 EF lens. 

Ok it's slow and it isn't as sharp as a Leica Lens. 

But for Protraits I will use it. And for this kind of silly images it's quite nice. 

And that's why I asked the question in advance. Because I am sure with new technology 

it can be done. 

Maybe one sharp very expensive and one for portraits that doesn't render that clinical. 

 

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And this is the lens: 

Added with a EF-L Fusion Smart AF + ND Adapter 

(https://lumiere-shop.de/produkt/nd-fusion-smart-af-adapter-canon-eos-linse-fuer-l-mount-kamera/?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA2pyuBhBKEiwApLaIOzbzF2eqJpmXl2QFS03VK1u7b6oe0VflayhNV1vtaH5uhONZlxe2AhoCPNYQAvD_BwE) 

shot with a 45 mm TS Canon lens. 

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With 1/4 s at dust in Hamburg street 

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[Pierre68]

On 11/13/2023 at 10:26 AM, Pelu2010 said:

Hi, 

I was wondering if we will get a 50 or 70 mm Noctolux but SL Body and AF. 
Would you love it? 
Would you buy it? 
Cheers 

Noctolux ? really? 

 

[Pelu2010]

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Or eveninglux if the noctilux is to complicated. 
just kidding. 
 

I am sure that we will get one. 
it may take some time. But in the end there will be one. 

[MediaFotografie]

I think we can have a very good idea how this Noctilux will look like:

the (new) Noct Nikkor Z 58mm 1:0,95

https://www.nikon.de/de_DE/product/lenses/mirrorless/nikkor-z-58mm-f0.95-s-noct

Without AF - because the glas is to heavy.

Nikkor: 8.500€, 2kg   Leica: ???

 

[Pelu2010]

Canon EF 50 mm 1:1,2 

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[Cronilux]

I would buy one, IF it had the rendering of the classic 50/1.0 v4 and a reliable fast AF. I wouldn’t care for any weight in this case. 

[algrove]

NOCTOLUX? What is that anyway?

[tomasis7]

3kg .. who wants it?

[Pelu2010]

Hey, Noctilux fans, 

Maybe we can state the statistics on what we would like the lens to have. 
 

so let’s say: 

it’s as small as the Nikon: 

NIKON NIKKOR Z 58MM F/0.95 S NOCT

then you can think of a price you what to pay…. 
 

And just to remind all here: 

laowa is now producing af lenses and I am sure they will come up with some fast lenses. 
 

and here is a comparison of two lenses. 
 

cheers 

[Pelu2010]

13 hours ago, algrove said:

NOCTOLUX? What is that anyway?

Yes you are right. 
It’s called Noctilux. 
thanxs for pointing it out. 
cheers 

[algrove]

3 hours ago, Pelu2010 said:

Yes you are right. 
It’s called Noctilux. 
thanxs for pointing it out. 
cheers 

OK, I thought you had discovered a new lens hidden in Leicas cabinets somewhere. That would have been very interesting though.

[Pelu2010]

So Sigma is able to do it: 

https://leicarumors.com/2024/03/26/new-sigma-50mm-f-1-2-dg-dn-art-lens-for-leica-l-mount-announced-the-lightest-in-its-class.aspx/

 

I guess it could be done …. 
 

[Pelu2010]

Cheers 

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[Geoff C. Bassett]

Only if they made it a character lens, 75mm for portraits,  sacrificing corner performance and having heavy vignetting to keep it smaller than the 50mm 1.4. Even then it would have to be very special to surpass the 75mm APO

50mm+ Sharp + Fast for me the Panasonic 50m 1.4 is more than enough, and anything heavier for a prime I would never use. 

Edited March 27 by Geoff C. Bassett

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[Pelu2010]

2 hours ago, Geoff C. Bassett said:

Only if they made it a character lens, 75mm for portraits,  sacrificing corner performance and having heavy vignetting to keep it smaller than the 50mm 1.4. Even then it would have to be very special to surpass the 75mm APO

50mm+ Sharp + Fast for me the Panasonic 50m 1.4 is more than enough, and anything heavier for a prime I would never use. 

So I assume you got up early today and tested it against the 75 APO? 

Can you provide some of the images pls? 

That would be great to see.