T25UFO Posted June 29, 2023 Share #181 Posted June 29, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) 3 hours ago, Olaf_ZG said: Wtf is Grayson Perry? Ha ha . . . I knew someone outside the UK would ask that question. He (yes he's a man, allegedly) is a Turner prize winning artist with a female alter ego who has just received a knighthood for his service to the arts. Go figure . . . Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/377414-jono-slack-review-the-leica-q3/?do=findComment&comment=4804205'>More sharing options...
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PeterBoyadjian Posted June 29, 2023 Share #182 Posted June 29, 2023 1 hour ago, HL99 said: Curious, if you’ve had any of the issues, users have been describing on the other threads. I’m on the waitlist for one and can’t decide if I should just get a second-hand Q2 for now, and wait for the bugs to get ironed out. No issues, I’m using Delkin Black and Lexar 1667x cards. I would get a Q and reserve a Q3. Never liked the iso performance or colors off the Q2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobsFirstLeica Posted June 29, 2023 Share #183 Posted June 29, 2023 4 hours ago, PeterBoyadjian said: So I've had my hands on the Q3 for two days now. Last 6 years has been the Q,Q2,SL2S,M10 and now the Q3. I didn't like the flip screen when I saw the launch photos but now I love it, looks very industrial. Then again I dont have a design degree or any degree so what do I know. I can't even tell you how much better the ISO performance is compared to the Q2. 8000 ISO looks CLEAN at 35mm crop. 90mm crop looks sharp and really good for what it is, better than 75 on the Q2. I have a couple events coming up so real world tests await. You are a little gutsier than I. However, I did bring the Q3 to a large get-together (non-paying) and it worked fine. AF was accurate and snappier than I expected. Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HL99 Posted June 29, 2023 Share #184 Posted June 29, 2023 1 hour ago, PeterBoyadjian said: No issues, I’m using Delkin Black and Lexar 1667x cards. I would get a Q and reserve a Q3. Never liked the iso performance or colors off the Q2. Thanks! Good tip! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted June 30, 2023 Share #185 Posted June 30, 2023 Hello Jono, Nice photos... the best part of your reviews, for me. Matty the dog looks so proud and happy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted July 1, 2023 Share #186 Posted July 1, 2023 On 6/28/2023 at 5:26 PM, city of bristol said: To say if you dont like dont buy it is a dumb answer lacking any semblance of intellect. I am a Q 2 user and have previously owned an m262 camera ,it may be useful for you but its ugly and a design failure for me and " jono" should at least have touched on the subject. The "verge" is unbiased at least in terms of reviews , i am not saying the Q 3 is a bad camera what i am saying is that the design is poor. You are a nasty person, making ad hominem attacks on me and Jono too. Anyone who disagrees with you is dumb. You’re going on the ignore list. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted July 1, 2023 Share #187 Posted July 1, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 6/27/2023 at 12:34 PM, city of bristol said: Looking at the camera it looks as if the designer of the Q and Q 2 walked out halfway through the Q 3 design project so they got a couple of garage fitters to bolt on a hideous tilt screen that protrudes horribly from the rear of the camera and these same fitters quickly just stuck some buttons on the other side of the rear to get by!! I cannot understand how any reviewer has ignored this ,i have found a couple of online reviews including one from the "verge" that point out this obvious design failure. How can you trust the review from Verge when they only "got to borrow and use a Leica Q3 for a very brief window ahead of its announcement?" 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 1, 2023 Share #188 Posted July 1, 2023 On 6/29/2023 at 9:13 PM, T25UFO said: Ha ha . . . I knew someone outside the UK would ask that question. He (yes he's a man, allegedly) is a Turner prize winning artist with a female alter ego who has just received a knighthood for his service to the arts. Go figure . . . Can we please stop the rudeness here? You know full well that Grayson is a man. He’s happily married to a woman who is a psychotherapist, and also in the media here. He is one of the UK’s top artists and appears on TV both as himself and as his alter-ego. There is no need to insult him. Thank you 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris W Posted July 1, 2023 Share #189 Posted July 1, 2023 On 6/28/2023 at 11:22 PM, city of bristol said: Trouble is with "dont like it dont buy it " is that the whole forum is totally pointless so jono should just do his review and no further comments needed unless they are totally positive and leica should be concerned if people like me who are loyal customers dislike a product that i would otherwise be looking to purchase at some point. There's a lot of music I don't like. I recognise it is high quality in every way though, just not something I enjoy listening to. Likewise the Q series. I had a Q (1), I thought it was a superb camera. I ended up selling it after 18 months because I just didn't like being forced to shoot 28mm all the time. Since then I have no interest in Q2 or Q3, despite the facility to crop. For me though it remains a well built, well designed camera that produces fantastic images. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
city of bristol Posted July 1, 2023 Share #190 Posted July 1, 2023 15 hours ago, SrMi said: How can you trust the review from Verge when they only "got to borrow and use a Leica Q3 for a very brief window ahead of its announcement?" Almost all reviews on camera products are either from people promoting or with a vested interest in the product or have a camera for a few hours and then make a review so reviews are mostly useless full stop in my view. That is not to say that jono slack is lacking in integrity but the leica connection has to be factored into his review in my view. 6 hours ago, Chris W said: There's a lot of music I don't like. I recognise it is high quality in every way though, just not something I enjoy listening to. Likewise the Q series. I had a Q (1), I thought it was a superb camera. I ended up selling it after 18 months because I just didn't like being forced to shoot 28mm all the time. Since then I have no interest in Q2 or Q3, despite the facility to crop. For me though it remains a well built, well designed camera that produces fantastic images. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted July 1, 2023 Share #191 Posted July 1, 2023 19 minutes ago, city of bristol said: Almost all reviews on camera products are either from people promoting or with a vested interest in the product or have a camera for a few hours and then make a review so reviews are mostly useless full stop in my view. That is not to say that jono slack is lacking in integrity but the leica connection has to be factored into his review in my view. I have been reading Jono Slack's many posts here, and reviews, since I joined in 2011. I have bought some of the cameras and lenses he has reviewed. I have had plenty of opportunities to judge the validity of his reviews. I have read your ten posts. Nuff said. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 2, 2023 Share #192 Posted July 2, 2023 Indeed. Jono gets the gear to test for weeks or possibly months and is under no obligation to gloss over negative aspects. Internet reviewers use the camera for an afternoon or possibly a couple of days and hurry home to write their clickbait. I know whom to trust 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simone_DF Posted July 3, 2023 Share #193 Posted July 3, 2023 On 6/28/2023 at 12:28 AM, bobtodrick said: How did we manage to take photos for 150 years without a tilt screen 😂 Do you also wash your clothes in a river or do you use a washing machine? Technology improves our lives. Yes you can indeed take photos without a tilt screen, but a tilt screen makes taking certain pictures so much easier. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 3, 2023 Share #194 Posted July 3, 2023 Obviously it depends on the use but I always found a flip screen preferable, if only because it can be reversed to protect the LCD. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtodrick Posted July 3, 2023 Share #195 Posted July 3, 2023 52 minutes ago, Simone_DF said: Do you also wash your clothes in a river or do you use a washing machine? Technology improves our lives. Yes you can indeed take photos without a tilt screen, but a tilt screen makes taking certain pictures so much easier. I’ll argue that one…all the ‘self driving’ technology now means I get to share the road at high speed with drivers who can’t park their own cars or know how to shoulder check. Or worry about AI making my job redundant. Flip screens may be convenient for you, my comment was aimed at the people who were claiming it made the Q3 so much better than the Q2. The people who want the camera to do everything for them. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simone_DF Posted July 3, 2023 Share #196 Posted July 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, bobtodrick said: I’ll argue that one…all the ‘self driving’ technology now means I get to share the road at high speed with drivers who can’t park their own cars or know how to shoulder check. Some people never learn to park properly no matter what. Assisted parking will make life easier for everybody. It's just a matter of time until we'll have 100% driverless cars. 3 minutes ago, bobtodrick said: Or worry about AI making my job redundant. Happened to knocker uppers, lift operators, telegraphists, switchboard operators and more. It will happen again and again. But jobs don't disappears, they just change. We'll still need IT technicians etc etc 9 minutes ago, bobtodrick said: Flip screens may be convenient for you, my comment was aimed at the people who were claiming it made the Q3 so much better than the Q2. The people who want the camera to do everything for them. Right. Because if you don't bend on your knees to take that low angle shot you are not a Trve Ph0t0gr4ph3r. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olaf_ZG Posted July 3, 2023 Share #197 Posted July 3, 2023 45 minutes ago, bobtodrick said: Flip screens may be convenient for you, my comment was aimed at the people who were claiming it made the Q3 so much better than the Q2. The people who want the camera to do everything for them. Sorry, but with or without tiltscreen, the function of the camera is the same, so this argument doesn’t apply. I want a tiltscreen cause of the wlf experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtodrick Posted July 3, 2023 Share #198 Posted July 3, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Simone_DF said: Some people never learn to park properly no matter what. Assisted parking will make life easier for everybody. It's just a matter of time until we'll have 100% driverless cars. Happened to knocker uppers, lift operators, telegraphists, switchboard operators and more. It will happen again and again. But jobs don't disappears, they just change. We'll still need IT technicians etc etc Right. Because if you don't bend on your knees to take that low angle shot you are not a Trve Ph0t0gr4ph3r. Sorry, I’m not going to engage with someone who thinks technology can’t be bad…it can! Nuclear weapons are a pretty good example. Technology in itself isn’t bad, humans ability to ethically use it is sometimes suspect. Edited July 3, 2023 by bobtodrick 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simone_DF Posted July 3, 2023 Share #199 Posted July 3, 2023 Just now, bobtodrick said: Sorry, I’m not going to engage with someone who thinks technology can’t be bad…it can! Nuclear weapons are a pretty good example. But nuclear power plants are a green alternative to carbon and provide electricity to more than half of Europe. It's not technology that is bad, it's the use that some people make of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtodrick Posted July 3, 2023 Share #200 Posted July 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Simone_DF said: But nuclear power plants are a green alternative to carbon and provide electricity to more than half of Europe. It's not technology that is bad, it's the use that some people make of it. Yes, I amended my statement to that effect. With auto technology…it isn’t the tech that is bad…it’s that there is a percentage of people who will use it as an excuse to completely absolve themselves of responsible use of the tech. Tesla states in their manuals that the driver still needs to be aware and in a position to override the systems when needed. So…I’ll grant you that tech isn’t the problem…humans are 😂 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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