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3 hours ago, Olaf_ZG said:

Wtf is Grayson Perry?

Ha ha . . . I knew someone outside the UK would ask that question.  He (yes he's a man, allegedly) is a Turner prize winning artist with a female alter ego who has just received a knighthood for his service to the arts.  Go figure . . .

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1 hour ago, HL99 said:

Curious, if you’ve had any of the issues, users have been describing on the other threads. I’m on the waitlist for one and can’t decide if I should just get a second-hand Q2 for now, and wait for the bugs to get ironed out.

No issues, 

I’m using Delkin Black and Lexar 1667x cards.

I would get a Q and reserve a Q3. Never liked the iso performance or colors off the Q2
 

 

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4 hours ago, PeterBoyadjian said:

So I've had my hands on the Q3 for two days now. 

Last 6 years has been the Q,Q2,SL2S,M10 and now the Q3. 

I didn't like the flip screen when I saw the launch photos but now I love it, looks very industrial. Then again I dont have a design degree or any degree so what do I know. 

I can't even tell you how much better the ISO performance is compared to the Q2. 8000 ISO looks CLEAN at 35mm crop. 

90mm crop looks sharp and really good for what it is, better than 75 on the Q2.

I have a couple events coming up so real world tests await. 

You are a little gutsier than I.  However, I did bring the Q3 to a large get-together (non-paying) and it worked fine.  AF was accurate and snappier than I expected.

Bob

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1 hour ago, PeterBoyadjian said:

No issues, 

I’m using Delkin Black and Lexar 1667x cards.

I would get a Q and reserve a Q3. Never liked the iso performance or colors off the Q2. 
 

 

Thanks! Good tip!

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On 6/28/2023 at 5:26 PM, city of bristol said:

To say if you dont like dont buy it is a dumb answer lacking any semblance of intellect.

I am a Q 2 user and have previously owned an m262 camera ,it may be useful for you but its ugly and a design failure for me and " jono" should at least have touched on the subject.

The "verge" is unbiased at least in terms of reviews , i am not saying the Q 3 is a bad camera what i am saying is that the design is poor.

You are a nasty person, making ad hominem attacks on me and Jono too.  Anyone who disagrees with you is dumb.   You’re going on the ignore list. 

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On 6/27/2023 at 12:34 PM, city of bristol said:

Looking at the camera it looks as if the designer of the Q and Q 2 walked out halfway through the Q 3 design project so they got a couple of garage fitters to bolt on a hideous tilt screen that protrudes horribly from the rear of the camera and these same fitters quickly just stuck some buttons on the other side of the rear to get by!!

I cannot understand how any reviewer has ignored this ,i have found a couple of online reviews including one from the "verge" that point out this obvious design failure.

How can you trust the review from Verge when they only "got to borrow and use a Leica Q3 for a very brief window ahead of its announcement?"

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On 6/29/2023 at 9:13 PM, T25UFO said:

Ha ha . . . I knew someone outside the UK would ask that question.  He (yes he's a man, allegedly) is a Turner prize winning artist with a female alter ego who has just received a knighthood for his service to the arts.  Go figure . . .

 

Can we please stop the rudeness here? You know full well that Grayson is a man. He’s happily married to a woman who is a psychotherapist, and also in the media here.

He is one of the UK’s top artists and appears on TV both as himself and as his alter-ego. 

There is no need to insult him. 

Thank you

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On 6/28/2023 at 11:22 PM, city of bristol said:

Trouble is with "dont like it dont buy it " is that the whole forum is totally pointless so jono should just do his review and no further comments needed unless they are totally positive and leica should be concerned if people like me who are loyal customers dislike a product that i would otherwise be looking to purchase at some point.

 

There's a lot of music I don't like. I recognise it is high quality in every way though, just not something I enjoy listening to.

Likewise the Q series. I had a Q (1), I thought it was a superb camera. I ended up selling it after 18 months because I just didn't like being forced to shoot 28mm all the time.

Since then I have no interest in Q2 or Q3, despite the facility to crop. For me though it remains a well built, well designed camera that produces fantastic images. 

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15 hours ago, SrMi said:

How can you trust the review from Verge when they only "got to borrow and use a Leica Q3 for a very brief window ahead of its announcement?"

Almost all reviews on camera products are either from people promoting or with a vested interest in the product or have a camera for a few hours and then make a review so reviews are mostly useless full stop in my view.

That is not to say that jono slack is lacking in integrity but the leica connection has to be factored into his review in my view.

6 hours ago, Chris W said:

There's a lot of music I don't like. I recognise it is high quality in every way though, just not something I enjoy listening to.

Likewise the Q series. I had a Q (1), I thought it was a superb camera. I ended up selling it after 18 months because I just didn't like being forced to shoot 28mm all the time.

Since then I have no interest in Q2 or Q3, despite the facility to crop. For me though it remains a well built, well designed camera that produces fantastic images. 

 

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19 minutes ago, city of bristol said:

Almost all reviews on camera products are either from people promoting or with a vested interest in the product or have a camera for a few hours and then make a review so reviews are mostly useless full stop in my view.

That is not to say that jono slack is lacking in integrity but the leica connection has to be factored into his review in my view.

 

I have been reading Jono Slack's many posts here, and reviews, since I joined in 2011. I have bought some of the cameras and lenses he has reviewed. I have had plenty of opportunities to judge the validity of his reviews.

I have read your ten posts.

Nuff said.

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Indeed. Jono gets the gear to test for weeks or possibly months and is under no obligation to gloss over negative aspects. Internet reviewers use  the camera for an afternoon or possibly a couple of days  and hurry home to write their clickbait. I know whom to trust 

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On 6/28/2023 at 12:28 AM, bobtodrick said:

How did we manage to take photos for 150 years without a tilt screen 😂

Do you also wash your clothes in a river or do you use a washing machine? 
Technology improves our lives. 
Yes you can indeed take photos without a tilt screen, but a tilt screen makes taking certain pictures so much easier. 

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52 minutes ago, Simone_DF said:

Do you also wash your clothes in a river or do you use a washing machine? 
Technology improves our lives. 
Yes you can indeed take photos without a tilt screen, but a tilt screen makes taking certain pictures so much easier. 

I’ll argue that one…all the ‘self driving’ technology now means I get to share the road at high speed with drivers who can’t park their own cars or know how to shoulder check.

Or worry about AI making my job redundant.

Flip screens may be convenient for you, my comment was aimed at the people who were claiming it made the Q3 so much better than the Q2.  The people who want the camera to do everything for them.

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2 minutes ago, bobtodrick said:

I’ll argue that one…all the ‘self driving’ technology now means I get to share the road at high speed with drivers who can’t park their own cars or know how to shoulder check.

Some people never learn to park properly no matter what. Assisted parking will make life easier for everybody. It's just a matter of time until we'll have 100% driverless cars. 

3 minutes ago, bobtodrick said:

Or worry about AI making my job redundant.

Happened to knocker uppers, lift operators, telegraphists, switchboard operators and more. It will happen again and again. But jobs don't disappears, they just change. We'll still need IT technicians etc etc 

 

9 minutes ago, bobtodrick said:

Flip screens may be convenient for you, my comment was aimed at the people who were claiming it made the Q3 so much better than the Q2.  The people who want the camera to do everything for them.

Right. Because if you don't bend on your knees to take that low angle shot you are not a Trve Ph0t0gr4ph3r.

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45 minutes ago, bobtodrick said:

 

Flip screens may be convenient for you, my comment was aimed at the people who were claiming it made the Q3 so much better than the Q2.  The people who want the camera to do everything for them.

Sorry, but with or without tiltscreen, the function of the camera is the same, so this argument doesn’t apply.

 I want a tiltscreen cause of the wlf experience.

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6 hours ago, Simone_DF said:

Some people never learn to park properly no matter what. Assisted parking will make life easier for everybody. It's just a matter of time until we'll have 100% driverless cars. 

Happened to knocker uppers, lift operators, telegraphists, switchboard operators and more. It will happen again and again. But jobs don't disappears, they just change. We'll still need IT technicians etc etc 

 

Right. Because if you don't bend on your knees to take that low angle shot you are not a Trve Ph0t0gr4ph3r.

Sorry, I’m not going to engage with someone who thinks technology can’t be bad…it can!

Nuclear weapons are a pretty good example.

Technology in itself isn’t bad, humans ability to ethically use it is sometimes suspect.

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Just now, bobtodrick said:

Sorry, I’m not going to engage with someone who thinks technology can’t be bad…it can!

Nuclear weapons are a pretty good example.

But nuclear power plants are a green alternative to carbon and provide electricity to more than half of Europe. 

It's not technology that is bad, it's the use that some people make of it.

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3 hours ago, Simone_DF said:

But nuclear power plants are a green alternative to carbon and provide electricity to more than half of Europe. 

It's not technology that is bad, it's the use that some people make of it.

Yes, I amended my statement to that effect.

With auto technology…it isn’t the tech that is bad…it’s that there is a percentage of people who will use it as an excuse to completely absolve themselves of responsible use of the tech.  Tesla states in their manuals that the driver still needs to be aware and in a position to override the systems when needed.

So…I’ll grant you that tech isn’t the problem…humans are 😂

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