Orson Posted September 10, 2021 Share #1 Posted September 10, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi all , while new into the M system and recently enjoying my new M10R and 50 summilux , I would like to use a ND filter. I like to shoot wide open , also in bright weather and sometimes the fastest shutterspeed is not sufficient to avoid overexposed pictures What would be the best intro ND filter : 2 stop or 3 stops? is style use of the rangefinder still good to use? thanks for suggestions! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gobert Posted September 10, 2021 Share #2 Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) Buy a 3 stops. Will do in almost all daylight circumstances during summertime. Edited September 10, 2021 by Gobert 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narsuitus Posted September 10, 2021 Share #3 Posted September 10, 2021 I use 2-stop, 3-stop, and 10-stop neutral density filters. Sometimes, I also use polarizing filters as neutral density filters. When using dark filters (like neutral density filters or infrared filters), I prefer using my rangefinder cameras instead of my SLR cameras. I find it much easier to focus and compose on a bright optical image rather than on a dark through-the-lens image. When using graduated neutral density filters, I prefer using my SLR cameras instead of my rangefinder cameras. I find it much easier to use the SLR to position the graduation just where I want it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted September 10, 2021 Share #4 Posted September 10, 2021 I was walking around München with my M10 and Noctilux a few years ago and it was too bright, stopped by the Leica store and got a Leica 4x ND. Then I realized it’s aluminum and too strong so I got a 0.9 and 1.2 Heliopans and B+Ws for both the 0.95 and 1.0 Noctiluxes. Then I realized it’s always either too much or too little ND if you shoot the whole day, and got a variable Heliopan, 0.3-1.8. Then of course you have to remember that and keep adjusting that. So it was tricky. At our recent Overgaard workshop I lent my 4x ND to Thorsten and noticed how he takes it off when shooting into a darker space and puts it back when shooting on the street. That can work if you’re not using a UV filter and have a spare case for the ND handy. Basically you have to plan for a range of brightness and have at least one ND filter and a case on you when shooting wide open. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted September 10, 2021 Share #5 Posted September 10, 2021 I found the 3 Stops filter from breacktrough just excellent , clean colors. I use a coin wallet to swap filters at night with UV filter.. https://breakthrough.photography/products/x4-neutral-density?variant=30931825819690 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/324413-use-of-nd-filter/?do=findComment&comment=4273195'>More sharing options...
Fed50 Posted September 11, 2021 Share #6 Posted September 11, 2021 I’ve adapted a Nisi filter kit (made for the Fuji x100v) to my M Mount lenses (39mm filter thread). Basically I screwed a 49mm coupling ring into the filter holder, and then used a 49-39mm step down ring between it and the lens. The kit has an ND8, a 3 stop grad, a polariser & a natural night filter. Other more powerful ND filters are available too. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/324413-use-of-nd-filter/?do=findComment&comment=4273566'>More sharing options...
andybarton Posted September 11, 2021 Share #7 Posted September 11, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 7 hours ago, Fed50 said: The kit has an ND8, a 3 stop grad, a polariser & a natural night filter. Does any light get through that lot at all? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted September 11, 2021 Share #8 Posted September 11, 2021 7 hours ago, Fed50 said: I’ve adapted a Nisi filter kit (made for the Fuji x100v) to my M Mount lenses (39mm filter thread). Basically I screwed a 49mm coupling ring into the filter holder, and then used a 49-39mm step down ring between it and the lens. The kit has an ND8, a 3 stop grad, a polariser & a natural night filter. Other more powerful ND filters are available too... Hi and welcome to the forum! It would be both fascinating and enlightening for us to see both 'With' and 'Without' photographs to see for ourselves how this approach alters the scene as captured! Very much looking forward to seeing your results! P. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted September 12, 2021 Share #9 Posted September 12, 2021 On 9/10/2021 at 6:18 PM, Orson said: Hi all , while new into the M system and recently enjoying my new M10R and 50 summilux , I would like to use a ND filter. I like to shoot wide open , also in bright weather and sometimes the fastest shutterspeed is not sufficient to avoid overexposed pictures What would be the best intro ND filter : 2 stop or 3 stops? is style use of the rangefinder still good to use? thanks for suggestions! Experiment to find out there are any vignetting problems by stacking a couple of your existing filters on your lenses first if you have any. If there is little or no vignetting, I'd get both 3 and 6 stop nd filters as a more versatile set for both shooting at full aperture in normal daylight (3 stops) and the 6 stop either on it's own or combined with the 3 stop filter for long exposures of up to 9 stops. What do you mean by this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaeger Posted September 12, 2021 Share #10 Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Ouroboros said: Experiment to find out there are any vignetting problems by stacking a couple of your existing filters on your lenses first if you have any. If there is little or no vignetting, I'd get both 3 and 6 stop nd filters as a more versatile set for both shooting at full aperture in normal daylight (3 stops) and the 6 stop either on it's own or combined with the 3 stop filter for long exposures of up to 9 stops. What do you mean by this? Edited September 12, 2021 by jaeger Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kl@usW. Posted September 12, 2021 Share #11 Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) Shooting film M bodies, which have a top speed of 1/1000, an ND filter is mandatory if you plan to use the fast end of your lenses--SLXs and NLX in my case. I started with an 4 ND but found it too strong--unless you want " creamy water" and that stuff. For "normal" street and nature, even landscape where you want to reduce the DOF and use the lens open, my goto ND is 3 or 4 stops. I have several filters, Leica and Heliopan in 49 and 60 . They all have a tint and are far from "neutral". I find the Leica filter has a more greenish tint than the Heliopan, so the Helio is my first choice. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! MP; NLX 095 about open, Leica ND 16 as Leica calls them( 4 stops) or, the same: ND 1,2 as Heliopan would call them Edited September 12, 2021 by Kl@usW. Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! MP; NLX 095 about open, Leica ND 16 as Leica calls them( 4 stops) or, the same: ND 1,2 as Heliopan would call them ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/324413-use-of-nd-filter/?do=findComment&comment=4274221'>More sharing options...
spydrxx Posted September 12, 2021 Share #12 Posted September 12, 2021 I rarely shoot color these days, but keep and use a 3 stop ND filter for bright light situations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin B Posted September 13, 2021 Share #13 Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) I am using a Hoya 58 mm 3-stop ND filter on most of my M-lenses with step-up rings. In case somebody is using also the older Leitz 50/1.5 Summarit lens - it has a weird filter thread, and the ones dedicated from Leica for it are very expensive. It also works getting a cheap 40.5 mm step-up ring which does not fully fit the lens thread. But surrounding the step-up ring's 40.5 mm thread with some Scotch tape makes it sit very well on the lens with filter attached. This way I use the 50/1.5 with ND filter very often. The photo below was taken a few weeks ago with my Leica M6 and Leitz 50/1.5 Summarit lens wide open, 3-stop ND filter as described above using expired Ektachrome 100 film, home-developed with E-6 process. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited September 13, 2021 by Martin B 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/324413-use-of-nd-filter/?do=findComment&comment=4274573'>More sharing options...
jankap Posted September 13, 2021 Share #14 Posted September 13, 2021 Summarit. According to #jaap in 2008 (see Leicawiki): Maybe not your field of interest, but it is one of the very few lenses that can be used for UV photography (there are some Russians out there as well). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin B Posted September 13, 2021 Share #15 Posted September 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, jankap said: Summarit. According to #jaap in 2008 (see Leicawiki): Maybe not your field of interest, but it is one of the very few lenses that can be used for UV photography (there are some Russians out there as well). Yes, I remember to read about it - mine came with the original UV filter which might be needed especially for color film photography when no other filter is used. I have no camera which is modified for full spectrum photography (I have one modified only for IR with 720 nm cutoff). I still find the Leitz 50/1.5 Summarit a hidden gem in the line especially since many view this lens as low in contrast and not sharp enough wide open. I find it plenty of sharp at f/1.5, and the bit lower contrast can easily be helped in PP or even in the darkroom from B&W negatives with red filters. Very unique lens regarding its bokeh. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobert Posted September 13, 2021 Share #16 Posted September 13, 2021 21 hours ago, Kl@usW. said: Shooting film M bodies, which have a top speed of 1/1000, an ND filter is mandatory if you plan to use the fast end of your lenses--SLXs and NLX in my case. I started with an 4 ND but found it too strong--unless you want " creamy water" and that stuff. For "normal" street and nature, even landscape where you want to reduce the DOF and use the lens open, my goto ND is 3 or 4 stops. I have several filters, Leica and Heliopan in 49 and 60 . They all have a tint and are far from "neutral". I find the Leica filter has a more greenish tint than the Heliopan, so the Helio is my first choice. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! MP; NLX 095 about open, Leica ND 16 as Leica calls them( 4 stops) or, the same: ND 1,2 as Heliopan would call them Interesting observation. I use solely B&W, but never did a color test. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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