AntonioF Posted October 18, 2022 Share #241 Posted October 18, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) And Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/321687-voigtlander-28mm-ultron-asph-type-ii/?do=findComment&comment=4538149'>More sharing options...
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01af Posted October 18, 2022 Share #242 Posted October 18, 2022 vor 20 Minuten schrieb AntonioF: And [...] Is that Seattle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioF Posted October 18, 2022 Share #243 Posted October 18, 2022 34 minutes ago, 01af said: Is that Seattle? Yes, it is. I was over there in August. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMyers Posted October 19, 2022 Share #244 Posted October 19, 2022 I just read all the way through this long thread. Perhaps I should have done so before ordering the lens yesterday, but now I'm even happier with my choice. I bought it for the wrong reason. I wanted a sort of more wide angel-ish lens for my M8.2, where my 35 behaves like a normal lens. I bought a Voigtlander 24mm Color Skopar years ago, which works great, but it's much wider coverage than I wanted, not to mention with my glasses I can't see the full image in the viewfinder. The 28 seemed like a perfect choice. At the time, I wasn't thinking much about my M10, but from everything I've been reading, I'm going to enjoy this lens even more on my M10. It seems to be a Leica quality lens, at one fifth the price, and for bonus points it is very small and compact. I used to wonder what the perfect lens size would be for walking around looking for photos. The 50 is the obvious answer, but to me it "feels" like a telephoto lately. I guess I switched to 35 long ago for when I go off on "photo walkabouts". Seeing all the lovely photos you all have posted, I'm starting to think that the 28 might be the best choice for me, for when I'm walking around with only one lens. Not sure if I need a lens hood or not - if so, the "LH12 CV" seems to be what I ought to buy. Anybody here have a better recommendation? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpomatic Posted October 20, 2022 Share #245 Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) 18 hours ago, MikeMyers said: the "LH12 CV" seems to be what I ought to buy. Anybody here have a better recommendation? Get the LH4n, it has a lot less viewfinder blockage. I have no understanding why on earth anyone would design, let alone buy, a hood like the LH12 on a rangefinder camera: on the 28 in question, when you focus a bit closer, it blocks so much of the frame! Not that the LH4n is no offender at all, but a cut-out is fundamental in my opinion. And that makes the vented LH4n a much better option: first one no hood, focus at 2m. Second is the LH12, third the LH4n Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited October 20, 2022 by Harpomatic 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/321687-voigtlander-28mm-ultron-asph-type-ii/?do=findComment&comment=4539407'>More sharing options...
insomnia Posted October 20, 2022 Share #246 Posted October 20, 2022 vor 3 Minuten schrieb Harpomatic: Get the LH4n This is the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 20, 2022 Share #247 Posted October 20, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 3 hours ago, Harpomatic said: Get the LH4n, it has a lot less viewfinder blockage. +1. Same for CV 35/2.5 and 35/2 asph. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMyers Posted October 20, 2022 Share #248 Posted October 20, 2022 First photo taken with my new (used) lens, still using my M8.2 - tomorrow I'll shoot with my M10. Minimal editing. This probably isn't a fair test of the lens, and I really ought to shoot using a tripod for testing. Will do so tomorrow. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/321687-voigtlander-28mm-ultron-asph-type-ii/?do=findComment&comment=4540218'>More sharing options...
lct Posted October 20, 2022 Share #249 Posted October 20, 2022 47 minutes ago, MikeMyers said: First photo taken with my new (used) lens, still using my M8.2 [...] M8.2 pic sans IR-cut filter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMyers Posted October 20, 2022 Share #250 Posted October 20, 2022 Correct, I have the IR-cut filter, but not the right size for this lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 20, 2022 Share #251 Posted October 20, 2022 I could not imagine greens that yellowish in Florida but i never went there and colors are a matter of tastes of course . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMyers Posted October 20, 2022 Share #252 Posted October 20, 2022 The new voigtlander lens uses a very small filter, and I only have the 46mm filter that Leica sent me decades ago. I was supposed to get two of them. Regarding the above image, the two things I was curious about were resolution, and what the out-of-focus areas might look like. My original purpose for buying a 28mm lens was for the M8.2, but I can see now that it will be even more handy on my M10. With Nikon, I have zooms the cover everything I could ever want. Not so much with Leica. Mid-morning tomorrow, if it's sunny, I'll take a photo with both cameras and my new 28, using the IR cut filter held in front of the lens for the M8. For all these years, I haven't been all that concerned about the IR "issues" with the M8. I can always correct the colors in PhotoLab. Actually, other than for taking real IR photos, I have no real reason to be using the M8 at all, except that I'm stubborn, and just enjoy doing so. It needs to go off to Leica to correct some blown pixels, and I guess they'll clean and lubricate it at the same time. Back to the new (to me) 28mm lens, I expected "small", but I didn't expect it to be so compact when I opened the box. To me, it is very light. I read somewhere that the focusing was "tight", but on my lens it is perfectly smooth and easy to adjust. I don't know why the font for all the lens markings is so much smaller than on my 24 Color Skopar. To be honest, I prefer the design and style of the Color Skopar, but it's not any big deal. Along with the lens hood, I think I need to buy an appropriate ND filter, so I can open up my aperture to get out of focus backgrounds. What strength filters do you guys recommend? ......and if I haven't already said it, thank you VERY much for all the advice. I was minutes away from ordering the used 28 Color Skopar from B&H, before I read up on this better lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romaing Posted October 21, 2022 Share #253 Posted October 21, 2022 M11 + CV 28 Ultron II. At F4 if I remember... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/321687-voigtlander-28mm-ultron-asph-type-ii/?do=findComment&comment=4540693'>More sharing options...
MikeMyers Posted October 21, 2022 Share #254 Posted October 21, 2022 As I see it, I need to see two things, both the full image, as in the beautiful image up above (in so many ways) and also to see part of the image at 100% size. I check all my images in DxO PhotoLab while editing them, and I'm always curious to see how much the sensor & lens captured. It's not fair for me judge my M8 photos the same way I do for an M11 photo, but maybe that's not really true at 100%. If I were to cut out a one inch square of image from both of them, and compare them side by side, I suspect that the M8 image might look just as good as the M11 image - but at 100% size the M11 image would be huge! On the other hand, comparing those two 1" images, the quality of the lens would might make a huge difference, but vintage lenses capture a different kind of quality than the very latest designs. From what I can see in the image up above, you, the M11, and the lens all did their part beautifully, and the composition certainly helped a lot. Beautiful! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romaing Posted October 21, 2022 Share #255 Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, MikeMyers said: As I see it, I need to see two things, both the full image, as in the beautiful image up above (in so many ways) and also to see part of the image at 100% size. I check all my images in DxO PhotoLab while editing them, and I'm always curious to see how much the sensor & lens captured. It's not fair for me judge my M8 photos the same way I do for an M11 photo, but maybe that's not really true at 100%. If I were to cut out a one inch square of image from both of them, and compare them side by side, I suspect that the M8 image might look just as good as the M11 image - but at 100% size the M11 image would be huge! On the other hand, comparing those two 1" images, the quality of the lens would might make a huge difference, but vintage lenses capture a different kind of quality than the very latest designs. From what I can see in the image up above, you, the M11, and the lens all did their part beautifully, and the composition certainly helped a lot. Beautiful! Thank you! A bunch of pictures ( 5 ), 100% size here :https://we.tl/t-Lx1ALQEOKX (it looks like I can't send mp) Edited October 21, 2022 by romaing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimichurri Posted October 22, 2022 Share #256 Posted October 22, 2022 M10R Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 12 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/321687-voigtlander-28mm-ultron-asph-type-ii/?do=findComment&comment=4541590'>More sharing options...
otto.f Posted October 22, 2022 Share #257 Posted October 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Chimichurri said: M10R This image deserves more than just being an illustration of some 28 lens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimichurri Posted October 22, 2022 Share #258 Posted October 22, 2022 2 hours ago, otto.f said: This image deserves more than just being an illustration of some 28 lens You like it? He was flying up and down with his buddy Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! They’re growing their feathers back. I didn’t know they lost them every year. There are a bunch at the park here. 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! They’re growing their feathers back. I didn’t know they lost them every year. There are a bunch at the park here. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/321687-voigtlander-28mm-ultron-asph-type-ii/?do=findComment&comment=4541796'>More sharing options...
MikeMyers Posted October 22, 2022 Share #259 Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) Back to my lens testing. I only used my M10, as that's the best that I've got. Photo was taken 8:30am from my balcony in Miami Beach, aimed at the city of Miami and the cruise ships. Camera was on a tripod, and I tried to use the built-in tool to position the camera "level". Just in case, I took 5 bracketed photos, but the one I selected was the "middle" setting, what the camera thought was best. The histogram is centered, so I think that confirms the exposure. I edited the images in the latest version of DxO PhotoLab, version 6. The only editing I did was to add my watermark and apply the noise removal tool. Everything else is SOOC. I don't know how to post a full-size image in this forum, so I set the jpg quality setting to 90%, and exported it as 2400 pixels wide. This is the best I know how to do - to my eyes, the Voigtlander 28mm Ultron ASPH type II is as perfect as I've ever seen (but I've never seen results from the new multi-thousand dollar Leica lenses, as I can't afford them. I'm viewing the image on both my 21" iMac, and my 27" ASUS high res display, and the image (at 100%) is certainly better when viewed on my ASUS. This gives me three lenses that look "perfect" to me, this lens and my 50mm Voigtlander f/2 APO-LANTHAR, and my very old Leica 90mm f/4 TELE ELMAR. I've also got a 1960's 35mm Leica Summilux, which I have always considered to be sharp, but people who know far more than I say it is "vintage". Back to this lens, the only thing I see that I might need to correct is a little vignetting; If I can get PhotoLab to recognize this lens, maybe they have a correction for it, not that I mind. I'm happy with the image straight from the camera. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited October 22, 2022 by MikeMyers Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/321687-voigtlander-28mm-ultron-asph-type-ii/?do=findComment&comment=4541905'>More sharing options...
MikeMyers Posted October 22, 2022 Share #260 Posted October 22, 2022 Just for comparison.... I replaced the Voigtlander with my 35mm Summilux, same settings, same exposure, same-same, and took a comparison photo. Maybe this will show me what people refer to as "vintage". Maybe I should buy a 35mm Voigtlander? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/321687-voigtlander-28mm-ultron-asph-type-ii/?do=findComment&comment=4541920'>More sharing options...
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