jaapv Posted May 6, 2021 Share #181 Posted May 6, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 10 minutes ago, SoarFM said: And are pretty darn good too! They are. Because of the smaller format they have to outperform FF lenses. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hazesus Posted May 6, 2021 Share #182 Posted May 6, 2021 (edited) The samples photos on the Leica site the photos don't render like a sigma but a Leica!. Edited May 6, 2021 by Hazesus 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivar B Posted May 6, 2021 Share #183 Posted May 6, 2021 58 minutes ago, RoySmith said: Does the barrel of the lens say Made in Germany, Made in Japan, or is it blank ? I don`t know (yet) but in all likelyhood it will be Made in Japan, like most Leica TL lenses. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boojay Posted May 6, 2021 Share #184 Posted May 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Ivar B said: I don`t know (yet) but in all likelyhood it will be Made in Japan, like most Leica TL lenses. Jono has answered that one in his review - made in Japan. 3 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldwino Posted May 6, 2021 Share #185 Posted May 6, 2021 US price seems to be $2795, which is roughly double (plus a bit) the price of the Sigma. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivar B Posted May 6, 2021 Share #186 Posted May 6, 2021 1 minute ago, oldwino said: US price seems to be $2795, which is roughly double (plus a bit) the price of the Sigma. But only half the price of the 24-90. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivar B Posted May 6, 2021 Share #187 Posted May 6, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Jono Slack has a well documented and interesting review. For all practical purposes, the lens is almost equal to the 24-90mm in performance. This does not come as a surprise. I would be more interested in knowing if Leica has added any value to it so it can outperform the Sigma lens. I expect not. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveBK Posted May 6, 2021 Share #188 Posted May 6, 2021 99% sure its just a rebadged Sigma no? Weight, filter size, elements, groups, macro magnification, min focus, etc etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivar B Posted May 6, 2021 Share #189 Posted May 6, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, steveBK said: 99% sure its just a rebadged Sigma no? Weight, filter size, elements, groups, macro magnification, min focus, etc etc Filter size is the same (82mm) and optical design is the same. Sigma I believe has some buttons or a button (AF ON/OFF) which the Leica does not have it seems. Edited May 6, 2021 by Ivar B 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beewee Posted May 6, 2021 Share #190 Posted May 6, 2021 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/319984-leica-vario-elmarit-sl-24%E2%80%9370mm-f28-asph/?do=findComment&comment=4195631'>More sharing options...
beewee Posted May 6, 2021 Share #191 Posted May 6, 2021 It’s interesting there are some differences in the Sigma vs Leica MTF curves. Even when comparing both Sigma’s Diffraction and Geometric MTF for 10lp/mm to Leica’s computed 10lp/mm curves at f/2.8. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardC Posted May 6, 2021 Share #192 Posted May 6, 2021 17 minutes ago, beewee said: It’s interesting there are some differences in the Sigma vs Leica MTF curves. Even when comparing both Sigma’s Diffraction and Geometric MTF for 10lp/mm to Leica’s computed 10lp/mm curves at f/2.8. The MTF curves are probably more relevant that the line drawing. You can't see any micrometer differences in line drawings, or changes in glass composition, or coatings, etc. We also don't know what QC differences are applied. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted May 6, 2021 Share #193 Posted May 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Ivar B said: For all practical purposes, the lens is almost equal to the 24-90mm in performance. So Leica proved that a Sigma is as good as its zoom. Basically the morale of the story is, go buy the Sigma! I did last year just as it came out and I’m glad I did. A result of this might be a closer look at other Sigmas and Voigtlanders.:) 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Warwick Posted May 6, 2021 Share #194 Posted May 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, setuporg said: A result of this might be a closer look at other Sigmas and Voigtlanders.:) I have zero idea what's changed if anything in terms of R&D?, computer design?, manufacturing processes? .....but, rightly or wrongly it feels to me like the gap has narrowed a lot in recent years among many manufacturers in creating technically excellent lenses. 4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivar B Posted May 6, 2021 Share #195 Posted May 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Jon Warwick said: I have zero idea what's changed if anything in terms of R&D?, computer design?, manufacturing processes? .....but, rightly or wrongly it feels to me like the gap has narrowed a lot in recent years among many manufacturers in creating technically excellent lenses. There is absolutely no doubt that you are 100 % correct. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted May 6, 2021 Share #196 Posted May 6, 2021 (edited) Probably the five Japanese guys making all these lenses and a Wetzlar guy visiting got together over some good sake. Edited May 6, 2021 by setuporg 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenTanaka Posted May 6, 2021 Share #197 Posted May 6, 2021 FWIW, I have no idea if this new lens is a re-badged Lumix or Sigma. But I -can- say that I've been using the Sigma 24-70 2.8 on my SL2 for some time, along with Leica's 24-90 behemoth, and it's been outstanding. Nearly a full pound lighter than the 24-90, less bulky, constant max 2.8 aperture, fast AF, excellent contract and sharpness across the frame. Frankly, I will soon be selling my Leica 24-90; I just don't use it. Not knocking it, just stating my own preference in this type of lens. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivar B Posted May 6, 2021 Share #198 Posted May 6, 2021 1 minute ago, setuporg said: Probably the five Japanese guys making all these lenses and a Wetzlar guy visiting got together over some good sake. Impossible. There is no good sake. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZach Posted May 6, 2021 Share #199 Posted May 6, 2021 21 minutes ago, Ivar B said: There is no good sake. Totally off topic, but having lived in Japan over 4 years think that above statement is false..😉 1 3 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsh Posted May 6, 2021 Share #200 Posted May 6, 2021 I believe this lens will also appeal to CL owners as a viable option to the excellent 18-56. As a matter of fact, this lens along with the 11-23 and the 55-135 and a CL will make a great travel kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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