Ambro51 Posted August 20, 2022 Author Share #781 Posted August 20, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4493243'>More sharing options...
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LocalHero1953 Posted August 20, 2022 Share #782 Posted August 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Ambro51 said: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! What are those? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambro51 Posted August 20, 2022 Author Share #783 Posted August 20, 2022 The Bell and Howell Foton with Cooke 216mm tele with B&H 4” and 8” Finder. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanus53 Posted August 20, 2022 Share #784 Posted August 20, 2022 Kardon with 4.5/105 PAM Britar and 4'' PAM finder Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4493647'>More sharing options...
thomas_schertel Posted September 13, 2022 Share #785 Posted September 13, 2022 Mr. Braun sent me some interesting things: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! yours sincerely Thomas Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! yours sincerely Thomas ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4508607'>More sharing options...
thomas_schertel Posted September 13, 2022 Share #786 Posted September 13, 2022 Three different Paxettes: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! yours sincerely Thomas 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! yours sincerely Thomas ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4508608'>More sharing options...
romualdo Posted September 16, 2022 Share #787 Posted September 16, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 8/21/2022 at 5:28 AM, romanus53 said: Kardon with 4.5/105 PAM Britar and 4'' PAM finder Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! any relation to Harman Kardon HiFi equipment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanus53 Posted September 16, 2022 Share #788 Posted September 16, 2022 vor 3 Stunden schrieb romualdo: any relation to Harman Kardon HiFi equipment? AFAIK no, Peter Kardon was an immigrant from Russa, Sidney Harman was born in Canada, good article by Mike Eckman https://mikeeckman.com/2021/07/premier-instrument-kardon-1947/ it's a pitty I own just the body, not the Ektar lens 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanus53 Posted September 16, 2022 Share #789 Posted September 16, 2022 vor 3 Stunden schrieb romualdo: any relation to Harman Kardon HiFi equipment? AFAIK no, Peter Kardon was an immigrant from Russa, Sidney Harman was born in Canada, good article by Mike Eckman https://mikeeckman.com/2021/07/premier-instrument-kardon-1947/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romualdo Posted September 16, 2022 Share #790 Posted September 16, 2022 1 hour ago, romanus53 said: AFAIK no, Peter Kardon was an immigrant from Russa, Sidney Harman was born in Canada, good article by Mike Eckman https://mikeeckman.com/2021/07/premier-instrument-kardon-1947/ it's a pitty I own just the body, not the Ektar lens fascinating read!!! I had never heard of Kardons previously - like my visit to the Ducati motorcycle factory in Bologna (2016) & saw the Ducati Sogno rangefinder cameras exhibited in their museum - blew me away (being a Ducati rider myself) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 16, 2022 Share #791 Posted September 16, 2022 Were not the Kardon Cameras the result of a US military tender request for a "Leica type" but domestically made 35mm RF camera. A similar situation to the Reid & Sigrist made in Leicester, England, which was never planned to be sold to the public but the UK military was being so financially squeezed in the post-war austerity, that their modest orders alone to R&S, would not have covered tooling and development costs. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpattison Posted September 16, 2022 Share #792 Posted September 16, 2022 a US military tender request for a "Leica type" Leica Rip-off more like !! John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 16, 2022 Share #793 Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, jpattison said: a US military tender request for a "Leica type" Leica Rip-off more like !! John At least R&S had most of the microfilms of the plans for the IIIb and IIIc. Albeit that apparently the geniuses at Military Intelligence (an oxymoron?) had managed to muddle up all the microfilms between the IIIb and IIIc and lost some of them. I was told but have no written evidence in my R&S files, that R&S asked their neighbour in Leicester, Taylor, Taylor and Hobson (the patent holders for the Xenon and Summarit lenses), who were in Leica's good graces, if copies of the missing microfilms could be supplied, which supposedly they were. The next time I am in Wetzlar, I will talk to someone like Lars Netopil and ask him if he can find any evidence of this in Leica's records. Certainly Leica seems to have raised no objections to the R&S cameras, not that they really could, after the 1946 London Agreement cancelled all pre 1946 German and Austrian Patents but oddly not trademarks. If you look at the total number of R&S cameras made, both civilian and military between 1951 and 1963 (#1000 serial first model to #3499 last serial i.e. 2499 cameras in total- the serial number on the internal body of my Model III series 2 is 3499, made by an R&S engineer for his own use, after production had ended), that would have been less than a months production for Wetzlar in 1950, when the prototype R&S cameras were shown to the UK military. For those unfamiliar the R&S are beautiful copies of the IIIb with an even finer degree of finish than the originals. R&S were high precision aircraft instrument makers, making at the time of camera production, inertial navigation gyroscopes for the British nuclear V Bomber fleet (Vulcan, Valiant and Victor) - ultra high precision equipment. Wilson Edited September 16, 2022 by wlaidlaw 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted September 19, 2022 Share #794 Posted September 19, 2022 On 9/16/2022 at 7:12 PM, wlaidlaw said: At least R&S had most of the microfilms of the plans for the IIIb and IIIc. Albeit that apparently the geniuses at Military Intelligence (an oxymoron?) had managed to muddle up all the microfilms between the IIIb and IIIc and lost some of them. I was told but have no written evidence in my R&S files, that R&S asked their neighbour in Leicester, Taylor, Taylor and Hobson (the patent holders for the Xenon and Summarit lenses), who were in Leica's good graces, if copies of the missing microfilms could be supplied, which supposedly they were. The next time I am in Wetzlar, I will talk to someone like Lars Netopil and ask him if he can find any evidence of this in Leica's records. Certainly Leica seems to have raised no objections to the R&S cameras, not that they really could, after the 1946 London Agreement cancelled all pre 1946 German and Austrian Patents but oddly not trademarks. If you look at the total number of R&S cameras made, both civilian and military between 1951 and 1963 (#1000 serial first model to #3499 last serial i.e. 2499 cameras in total- the serial number on the internal body of my Model III series 2 is 3499, made by an R&S engineer for his own use, after production had ended), that would have been less than a months production for Wetzlar in 1950, when the prototype R&S cameras were shown to the UK military. For those unfamiliar the R&S are beautiful copies of the IIIb with an even finer degree of finish than the originals. R&S were high precision aircraft instrument makers, making at the time of camera production, inertial navigation gyroscopes for the British nuclear V Bomber fleet (Vulcan, Valiant and Victor) - ultra high precision equipment. Wilson Wilson, if you contact Tim Goldsmith ( vintage camera auction consultant) he should be able to help you. He was involved with the disposal of the John Vincent R&S collection and he gave a wonderful Zoom talk to PCCGB on the subject of Reid cameras some months ago. I am sure that he has the answers to some or all of the questions which you have raised. Among the items which he has (or had) were taped interviews with former R&S staff, which included some of the staff who had been involved in the infamous ‘intelligence inspection’ visit to Wetzlar in 1946. These tapes included admissions by R&S staff that they had used counterfeit British military uniforms while visiting the Leitz premises in Wetzlar. There are a lot of other interesting aspects to this whole story including the fact that ‘Major Reid’ was not a major at all but rather was ‘Flying Officer Reid’. I can put you in touch with Tim if you wish. From my own point of view, while Reids look nice they are an awful nuisance when it comes to repairs, but I think that you have already found this out. William 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitroplait Posted October 14, 2022 Share #795 Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Al Brown said: Another STASI Robot, this one was hidden in a specially modified tin watering can and photos were made through the can’s barrel (seen behind). Robots are not exactly quiet cameras. Did they sound proof the hiding containers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 14, 2022 Share #796 Posted October 14, 2022 Presumably the STASI were buying Robots on the commercial market, as they were made in Schwelm near Köln in West Germany. I can't imagine large order from the STASI being looked on with favour, by a West German company. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 14, 2022 Share #797 Posted October 14, 2022 37 minutes ago, nitroplait said: Robots are not exactly quiet cameras. Did they sound proof the hiding containers? Lucky they were not using a Combat Graflex. Mine sounds like a large cailbre machine gun when running at the full 6 frames/sec on 70mm film. Wilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankap Posted October 21, 2022 Share #798 Posted October 21, 2022 Carl Zeiss monocular, 4 x 20mm, M.Blink16 According to the internet these monoculars were used to receive orders from the artillery staff during WW1. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! An heirloom; it should be lubricated again. Unfortunately, I have not found a way to take the eyepiece off. The glasses are very good still. 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! An heirloom; it should be lubricated again. Unfortunately, I have not found a way to take the eyepiece off. The glasses are very good still. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4541306'>More sharing options...
nitroplait Posted October 22, 2022 Share #799 Posted October 22, 2022 Not sure if this camera qualifies as historica? 30 years seems like yesterday when you reach my age, for most people it is more than than their adult life. 903 SWC from the local Botanical Garden loaded with Fujichrome 100F. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4541957'>More sharing options...
Pyrogallol Posted October 23, 2022 Share #800 Posted October 23, 2022 A caviar lens. Steinheil Cassaron 40mm f3.5 on Exakta to Leica screw adaptor. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 9 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4542954'>More sharing options...
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