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Noctilux M 50 1.2 ( aktuelle Version )

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Leica M6. Leica 50mm f1.2 Noctilux lens.  Tri-X rated at 800, developed 7:45 in XTOL stock with added Rodinal 1:100. 20 degrees Celsius. 

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I have been looking for a lens with "character", and have to say I like many of the images here that you've all taken.

I'm curious about the lens, because I find the high contrast and super resolving lenses (like the M and SL APOs) to be far too "sharp" on a digital camera for Portraits.

When I look at the images produced here, I was wondering what other lenses might provide a rendering similar to this reissued Noctilux 1.2?

For example, has anyone compared it to the Voigtlander 50mm Heliar Classic f 1.5 (or other lens that you might think is comparable)? ....or would you say the Noctilux 1.2's output really is quite unique and/or provides benefits like above-average micro-contrast etc?

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14 minutes ago, Jon Warwick said:

I was wondering what other lenses might provide a rendering similar to this reissued Noctilux 1.2?

You mean more "dreamy"? (=uncorrected aberrations, nice bokeh, sharpness falloff from the centre, etc.)

You should definitely check the "modern" fast Sonnar formulas. Like the 7artisans 50mm f/1.1 (bonus: super cheap). Or if you don't mind a stop slower, the f/1.5 Sonnars, either the original (and Jupiter-3 clones+modern reissues), or the new one reintroduced by Zeiss (bonus: small size).

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20 minutes ago, giannis said:

You mean more "dreamy"? (=uncorrected aberrations, nice bokeh, sharpness falloff from the centre, etc.)

You should definitely check the "modern" fast Sonnar formulas. Like the 7artisans 50mm f/1.1 (bonus: super cheap). Or if you don't mind a stop slower, the f/1.5 Sonnars, either the original (and Jupiter-3 clones+modern reissues), or the new one reintroduced by Zeiss (bonus: small size).

Yes, “dreamy” is exactly what I mean!

Thanks for your suggestions, including the heads-up about the reintroduced Zeiss, I’d never seen it before and will take a look.

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Mp + 50 1.2 noct

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11 hours ago, Jon Warwick said:

Yes, “dreamy” is exactly what I mean!

Thanks for your suggestions, including the heads-up about the reintroduced Zeiss, I’d never seen it before and will take a look.

You're welcome!

It's called the Zeiss ZM C-Sonnar 50mm f/1.5.

The jupiter-3 also got reintroduced as "Jupiter 3+", but I don't think it's worth the price given how cheap the original can be found.

Another thing you might wanna try, that is comparatively really cheap and can give great "dreamy" results on  demand, is a filter. You can check the Pro Mists and other haze filters in various intensities, or my favourite in terms of "dreaminess" of results, the Zeiss Softar (3 grades iirc) / Hoya Softener (A and B ), with small droplet sized "lenses" on it, that difracts light and gives a bit of a soft focus effect (not just haze).

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a few "character" lens that i know

1) Canon 50 / F0.95 aka Dream Lens

2) Nikon Noct Nikkor 58/1.2

3) Konica Hexanon 50 /1.2

 

14 hours ago, Jon Warwick said:

I have been looking for a lens with "character", and have to say I like many of the images here that you've all taken.

I'm curious about the lens, because I find the high contrast and super resolving lenses (like the M and SL APOs) to be far too "sharp" on a digital camera for Portraits.

When I look at the images produced here, I was wondering what other lenses might provide a rendering similar to this reissued Noctilux 1.2?

For example, has anyone compared it to the Voigtlander 50mm Heliar Classic f 1.5 (or other lens that you might think is comparable)? ....or would you say the Noctilux 1.2's output really is quite unique and/or provides benefits like above-average micro-contrast etc?

 

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Dogwoods at f1.2

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M10R, Lens at f/1,7

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M10R bp noctilux wide open with nd filter in Naxos and Amorgos 

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On 2/5/2022 at 9:28 PM, adan said:

Actually, what Leica (Well, the Reddot Forum of Leica Store Miami) says is:

To maintain the unmistakable, dreamlike rendering of the original lens and its hallmark bokeh, Leica strictly adhered to the historical optical calculation and construction, making only minimal changes when carefully adapting to the glass types and production methods available today. The re-issue still contains six elements in four groups with two aspherical lenses, all housed in a relatively compact package with a standard 49mm front filter thread. And according to Leica, performance is almost identical to the 1960s version.

Interesting.

I have the f/1.0 Noctilux (#11-822) and I'm beginning to prefer the rendering of the new copies of the "older" 50mm f/1.2 Noctilux to my more recent version.

In some of the images I'm seeing in this thread, the f/1.2 shot when wide open produces in focus areas that are more sharp than my f/1.0 produces wide open.  I think that difference in sharpness is what's attractive about the f/1.2 lens.

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On 6/9/2022 at 6:44 PM, Herr Barnack said:

Interesting.

I have the f/1.0 Noctilux (#11-822) and I'm beginning to prefer the rendering of the new copies of the "older" 50mm f/1.2 Noctilux to my more recent version.

In some of the images I'm seeing in this thread, the f/1.2 shot when wide open produces in focus areas that are more sharp than my f/1.0 produces wide open.  I think that difference in sharpness is what's attractive about the f/1.2 lens.

Herr Barnack, how do the two lenses compare if you stop your f/1 down to f/1.2?

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