IkarusJohn Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share #221 Posted October 22, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) How many here who started with film SLRs, I wonder, used the advance lever as a thumb rest? Two things are counter intuitive about the film Ms for me, coming from Nikon, are (1) I'm used to the camera being "On" when the lever is in the stand off position, and "Off" and locked when the lever is closed, and (2) the feel of the lever. For some reason, the Nikon lever felt like it was made for your thumb to rest behind. The M3 and MA, somehow, not so much. I really don't know what to make of this lever on the M10-D ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Linford Posted October 23, 2018 Share #222 Posted October 23, 2018 2 hours ago, IkarusJohn said: How many here who started with film SLRs, I wonder, used the advance lever as a thumb rest? Two things are counter intuitive about the film Ms for me, coming from Nikon, are (1) I'm used to the camera being "On" when the lever is in the stand off position, and "Off" and locked when the lever is closed, and (2) the feel of the lever. For some reason, the Nikon lever felt like it was made for your thumb to rest behind. The M3 and MA, somehow, not so much. I really don't know what to make of this lever on the M10-D ... I guess tomorrow will tell the tale...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
low325 Posted October 23, 2018 Share #223 Posted October 23, 2018 If the rumors are right we will see it all in minutes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwn Posted October 23, 2018 Share #224 Posted October 23, 2018 Well here's my $2c of predictions/wants 😁: Lever: On switch. That's all. Pick up the camera, one stroke and it's on. Very nice feel to that. No need for off, as auto-shutdown will be set to eg 10 minutes. Rear dial : Red dot is (gasp!) video, as all red dots are. Left is Wifi. Centre white dot is neither, ie just off. How does one code in a wifi password though????? Is little LED in OVF fully alphanumeric? Or will it require the visoflex for setup? Or just use WEP? Looking forward to getting one of these ... oh wait, it'll be 2020 before I can actually get one in shop ... patience, patience ... :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF’sDelight Posted October 23, 2018 Share #225 Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) Regardless which function the lever will have or not have, 95% of my friends will think I'm totally stupid when I tell them that the camera I’m currently using (future vision), is a digital camera without a diplay but with an advance lever instead. And all this for a around 8,000 euros – without a lens. What a crazy, beautiful, exciting yet costly niche. 😁 Edited October 23, 2018 by RF’sDelight 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted October 23, 2018 Share #226 Posted October 23, 2018 2 hours ago, edwn said: Well here's my $2c of predictions/wants 😁: Lever: On switch. That's all. Pick up the camera, one stroke and it's on. Very nice feel to that. No need for off, as auto-shutdown will be set to eg 10 minutes. Rear dial : Red dot is (gasp!) video, as all red dots are. Left is Wifi. Centre white dot is neither, ie just off. How does one code in a wifi password though????? Is little LED in OVF fully alphanumeric? Or will it require the visoflex for setup? Or just use WEP? Looking forward to getting one of these ... oh wait, it'll be 2020 before I can actually get one in shop ... patience, patience ... 🙂 The Leica "Fotos" app, which is supposed to be universal, uses a QR code to link camera and device. They will have to provide a workaround for that somehow for a camera with no display. It would have to be something unique to the camera like serial number, or perhaps a long button press on the camera when in proximity to a phone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hey You Posted October 23, 2018 Share #227 Posted October 23, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) My understanding, is that this camera has a QR code on its base, visible when the base plate is removed. So, no workaround needed . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr237 Posted October 23, 2018 Share #228 Posted October 23, 2018 crickets ... announcement either postponed or never intended in the first place? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted October 23, 2018 Share #229 Posted October 23, 2018 Leica Rumors spread an uninformed rumor about the date of an announcement. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Bedford Posted October 24, 2018 Share #230 Posted October 24, 2018 10 hours ago, AlanJW said: The Leica "Fotos" app, which is supposed to be universal, uses a QR code to link camera and device. They will have to provide a workaround for that somehow for a camera with no display. It would have to be something unique to the camera like serial number, or perhaps a long button press on the camera when in proximity to a phone. It's possible that there may be a QR code somewhere on the bottom plate as someone else suggested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted October 24, 2018 Share #231 Posted October 24, 2018 47 minutes ago, UliWer said: Leica Rumors spread an uninformed rumor about the date of an announcement. Other rumors predict an announcement on the 24th at the NY PhotoPlus Expo. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share #232 Posted October 24, 2018 57 minutes ago, UliWer said: Leica Rumors spread an uninformed rumor about the date of an announcement. Rumour of a rumour? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted October 24, 2018 Share #233 Posted October 24, 2018 The silence is deafening. But expected. Leica would not such a silly thing: a camera that argues with its own fundamental intent of simplicity and essentials. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_big Posted October 24, 2018 Share #234 Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/22/2018 at 3:15 PM, IkarusJohn said: I really don't know what to make of this lever on the M10-D ... It's a thumb grip, nothing more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share #235 Posted October 24, 2018 To be fair, I was told the announcement would be tomorrow. But who needs to be fair? I have also been advised that my black MD would be with me before Christmas. Still some weeks to go! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted October 24, 2018 Share #236 Posted October 24, 2018 So there are people who want a classically minimalist M with no LCD and buttons etc, but still want WiFi, a phone app, visoflex, and maybe even the darkroom to go with that classically minimalist experience? 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted October 24, 2018 Share #237 Posted October 24, 2018 vor 5 Minuten schrieb rramesh: So there are people who want a classically minimalist M with no LCD and buttons etc, but still want WiFi, a phone app, visoflex, and maybe even the darkroom to go with that classically minimalist experience? Its all about emotion not logic 🙂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eckart Posted October 24, 2018 Share #238 Posted October 24, 2018 I did use the prototype of the M10-D for several years. The lever is with full function, tauten the shutter and transporting the SD-Card-Roll to the next empty file. Normally you are able to work out in that way 36 files per card, some of the real tricky fellows do have a technic while loading the new card and end with 38 to sometimes even 40 exposures! But this might be a rumour, I never had more than 38... BTW the video-function is fake news, this is not possible on SD-Card-Rolls! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted October 24, 2018 Share #239 Posted October 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, rramesh said: So there are people who want a classically minimalist M with no LCD and buttons etc, but still want WiFi, a phone app, visoflex, and maybe even the darkroom to go with that classically minimalist experience? I am probably one of those. I love the simplicity and look of old cameras, but I am too young to have any experience with analog film (and probably too lazy to learn). Instead I put on old lenses and I often edit my pictures so they look even more old. I think many digital images tend to look lifeless and boring. 😊 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted October 24, 2018 Share #240 Posted October 24, 2018 Anyone needs a kidney? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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