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I agree about the Q's lens .

But the EVF and LCD are sub par .

 

The EVF of the Q has a resolution of 3.68m.  It is excellent and very sharp.  The only EVF that I personally am aware of that is better is the one of the SL.

 

I have never shot the Canon EOS M6 but I personally would be extremely surprised if it made the Q EVF look "sub par" as you put it. 

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Speculation does not make it a fact and predictable such that existing TL2 owners feeling disappointed by a subsequent TL with built in EVF have only themselves to blame..., pretty strong words...

 

I personally wouldn't be disappointed and welcome more bodies and especially better bodies and hopefully it will lead to more lenses (as rumored) as well.

Well, I don't base my buying decisions only on fact. I also make an educated guess (speculation) about what might be coming along in the future. Like most people on this forum though, I am continually surprised to find that others don't think the same way as me.

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The EVF of the Q has a resolution of 3.68m.  It is excellent and very sharp.  The only EVF that I personally am aware of that is better is the one of the SL.

 

I have never shot the Canon EOS M6 but I personally would be extremely surprised if it made the Q EVF look "sub par" as you put it. 

 

The Canon EOS M6 EVF has a resolution of 2.36m .

Despite the lower specs , in real world use , I preferred the Canon's EVF and LCD .

I have rented and used many different mirrorless cameras and found the Q's EVF / LCD sub par .

But it's a great camera .

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I have rented and used many different mirrorless cameras and found the Q's EVF / LCD sub par .

 

I am not of the same opinion.  If we all thought the same it would be a boring world though...

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Leica's X camera line has been discontinued, which suggests to me that the "Clooney" is to go in that direction.  Just a guess.

 

Really?  The X, X-U, X Edition Moncler, XVario and X-E are all still listed here - https://us.leica-camera.com

 

Granted, only the X-U seems to be listed for sale on B&H which raises the question for how long.

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You have large pockets!!

 

For me personally the TL2 is not pocketable, so I wouldn't be bothered by a small increase in size although I very much like the form factor of the TL2. 

 

Perhaps Leica needs to get the Audi guys in again to brainstorm the design...

 

 

Not at all.  With no viewfinder and no strap, the TL2 with 28 Summaron-M fits into my jacket pockets, my cycling jersey pockets and the back pocket of my jeans (at a squeeze).  The TL lenses make it bigger (I only have the 11-23 & 35).

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Really?  The X, X-U, X Edition Moncler, XVario and X-E are all still listed here - https://us.leica-camera.com

 

Granted, only the X-U seems to be listed for sale on B&H which raises the question for how long.

 

John,

 

Leica Miami only lists the X-U under the X camera line.  Maybe it has a longer life since it is such a specialty camera.

 

I cannot explain why Leica's site still list the X cameras, but there are suggestions throughout the internet that the other X cameras have been discontinued.

 

Rob

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Not at all.  With no viewfinder and no strap, the TL2 with 28 Summaron-M fits into my jacket pockets, my cycling jersey pockets and the back pocket of my jeans (at a squeeze).  The TL lenses make it bigger (I only have the 11-23 & 35).

Sitting down cannot be comfortable..

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Not at all.  With no viewfinder and no strap, the TL2 with 28 Summaron-M fits into my jacket pockets, my cycling jersey pockets and the back pocket of my jeans (at a squeeze).  The TL lenses make it bigger (I only have the 11-23 & 35).

Can you show us a photo of the TL2 in your back jeans pocket? It sounds like a good alternative to a Billingham.

 

Maybe we need an image thread for cameras in pockets.

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Sounds like porn ...

 

Try with your TL2 and body cap - the Sommaron barely protrudes beyond the grip. You’ll get the idea. I’ve posted a picture of the Summaron on the TL2 elsewhere on the forum - it definitely fits comfortably in a sensible pocket. Change pocket, not so much. Bigger than an iPhone? Yes. Smaller than a 1990s Motorola flip phone? Definitely.

 

Split hairs all you like, with a small lens, this camera is small and convenient.

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Next TL camera will be a "small" SL: EVF, black only, sealed, professional look, a more traditional small companion of the SL, at a price positioning about 3.000 Euros.

Do you wanna bet?

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If I had to guess, I would still think the "Clooney" is not going to be a TL2 with EVF, but rather some newly designed camera with a superb EVF and a more traditional user interface along the lines of the SL or Q.  

 

The TL lenses don't have aperture rings. The SL doesn't have a dedicated shutter speed dial. No 'traditional' interface to fit with a new TL mount camera.

 

I expect we will see a 'mini SL' - effectively a TL2 with built in EVF but something that looks more like an SL than a TL/2.

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The TL lenses don't have aperture rings. The SL doesn't have a dedicated shutter speed dial. No 'traditional' interface to fit with a new TL mount camera.

 

I expect we will see a 'mini SL' - effectively a TL2 with built in EVF but something that looks more like an SL than a TL/2.

 

Yes, I would be more inclined to see that as the "Clooney".

I just do not see a physical TL2 clone with built in EVF.

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