wildlightphoto Posted November 8, 2017 Share #321 Posted November 8, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Do you prefer the Silver version, as above, or the all-black one? All black for me. I'll be paying attention to the announcement. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted November 8, 2017 Share #322 Posted November 8, 2017 It seems to be a nice camera and it will probably revive the X-Series if the price is right, which is a good thing. But a milestone? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Gough Posted November 8, 2017 Share #323 Posted November 8, 2017 Two mic's on top so it will do video. Hopefully 4K and a better codec Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonatdonuts Posted November 8, 2017 Share #324 Posted November 8, 2017 my goodness it is kinda little like a barnack. Looks a bit funky but love the size. Good job. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiayeong Posted November 8, 2017 Share #325 Posted November 8, 2017 It is nice to have an EVF. But, it appears no built in flash. External flash will make this relatively small camera a lot bigger. Sent from my HTC U11 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmschuh Posted November 8, 2017 Share #326 Posted November 8, 2017 Who needs a flash? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belle123 Posted November 8, 2017 Share #327 Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) I agree, is funky looking. The way they did the EVF is a turn off for me, sorry. Would prefer more like the Q instead of looking like a pimple popped up. If this is Cloony, I will hold onto my Q and happy with it. Might now consider the TL2. Edited November 8, 2017 by Belle123 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted November 8, 2017 Share #328 Posted November 8, 2017 I agree, is funky looking. The way they did the EVF is a turn off for me, sorry. Would prefer more like the Q instead of looking like a pimple popped up. But have you looked through it? There is more to a camera than just its external appearance. dunk 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted November 8, 2017 Share #329 Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) nice..a mix of the x1/x-vario and the T...the eye-piece looks a bit strange.. hopefully it has some image stabilization built in Edited November 8, 2017 by frame-it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belle123 Posted November 8, 2017 Share #330 Posted November 8, 2017 But have you looked through it? There is more to a camera than just its external appearance. dunk No compelling reason for me vs the TL2 so far. I will hang onto my Q, and Ts over this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedalus2000 Posted November 8, 2017 Share #331 Posted November 8, 2017 I like it, together with the pancake and the option of the 23mm will be a nice/small camera to have with me that will give me 28mm or 35mm equivalent. I will go for a black one. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreasAM Posted November 8, 2017 Share #332 Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) I like it, together with the pancake and the option of the 23mm will be a nice/small camera to have with me that will give me 28mm or 35mm equivalent. I will go for a black one. I second that, if all the inner-specs are TL2 or better. I would like Leica also to introduce a small sized 40/50 mm. TL-Summicron-C, to form a nice small travel-set of 3 lenses. Edited November 8, 2017 by AndreasAM 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted November 8, 2017 Share #333 Posted November 8, 2017 What a let down. I can see people cancelling their attendance of “Das Unwesentliche“ and TL2 buyers asking for a refund. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedalus2000 Posted November 8, 2017 Share #334 Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) I like it, together with the pancake and the option of the 23mm will be a nice/small camera to have with me that will give me 28mm or 35mm equivalent. I will go for a black one. I was thinking that the new camera will be: -- with the 18mm pancake, a mini Q -- with the 23mm a new X -- with the 18-55 zoom a new X-vario and of course it will have all the options of using M lenses, R lenses and all the other TL lenses. Yes, the TL2 can do the same but I prefer this form to the TL2 form. Edited November 8, 2017 by Daedalus2000 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted November 8, 2017 Share #335 Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) What a let down. I can see people cancelling their attendance of “Das Unwesentliche“ and TL2 buyers asking for a refund. Why a let down? Just curious. Physically, it seems to be what you predicted. But of course performance will be key. A good EVF and fast AF would be nice. And this TL2 buyer will wait to ask for a refund till I hear how it performs. In terms of size, it looks like it might be a bit under 10mm taller (but difficult to judge), but the EVF bulge means it will catch on pockets more than the TL2. Edit: Q: is there any direct evidence that this is APS-C, and not FF? Edited November 8, 2017 by LocalHero1953 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted November 8, 2017 Share #336 Posted November 8, 2017 The black version looks nearly as nice as my I Model As, but not quite there. Definitely the best looking camera in the current Leica line up. If this has some compact primes, it will replace the X-series and will also, possibly, kill the TLs. I thought I would not be interested at all in this camera, but this first sighting has caught my attention. What would make it perfect would be traditional marked dials, but perfection is hard to find. Do I see a hint of nickel coloration in the lens mount? Now, that would be something for those of us who like the very early Leicas. William 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anickpick Posted November 8, 2017 Share #337 Posted November 8, 2017 It seems to be a nice camera and it will probably revive the X-Series if the ptice is right, which is a good thing. But a milestone? Most likely it will just be a TL with integrated EVF. Which is nice but nothing exciting. But maybe Leica surprises us: Something like In Body Image Stabilisation or external Mic port... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted November 8, 2017 Share #338 Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) Why a let down? Just curious. Physically, it seems to be what you predicted. But of course performance will be key. A good EVF and fast AF would be nice. And this TL2 buyer will wait to ask for a refund till I hear how it performs. In terms of size, it looks like it might be a bit under 10mm taller (but difficult to judge), but the EVF bulge means it will catch on pockets more than the TL2. Edit: Q: is there any direct evidence that this is APS-C, and not FF? No hints of new Clooney FF lenses and SL FF lenses would drown it dunk Edited November 8, 2017 by dkCambridgeshire 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreasAM Posted November 8, 2017 Share #339 Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) Why a let down? Just curious. Physically, it seems to be what you predicted. But of course performance will be key. A good EVF and fast AF would be nice. And this TL2 buyer will wait to ask for a refund till I hear how it performs. In terms of size, it looks like it might be a bit under 10mm taller (but difficult to judge), but the EVF bulge means it will catch on pockets more than the TL2. Edit: Q: is there any direct evidence that this is APS-C, and not FF? I would say this is a tad bigger than a X2. I measure (w-h-d): 140x87x45 m. including the EVF and140x75x35 mm, without counting the EVF The T measures134x107x33 mm. incl the Visoflex and 134x69x33 mm. without. That is quite a compact little gem, when the specs are comparable with the TL2 and a EVF of the Q or better. All depends on the size of the battery I think. Edited November 8, 2017 by AndreasAM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted November 8, 2017 Share #340 Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) What a let down. I can see people cancelling their attendance of “Das Unwesentliche“ and TL2 buyers asking for a refund. I'm not in love with its appearance, but if the EVF is equivalent to, or better than, the Q's and the user interface is more like the Q's/X line/ SL then I'm tempted to replace my TL2 with it. I'd be greatly disappointed if the EVF is like the Visoflex currently available for the TL2. For me, the EVF for the TL line is just not sufficiently good for using M lenses and nailing focus wide-open. Edited November 8, 2017 by ropo54 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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