jaapv Posted May 21, 2023 Share #41 Posted May 21, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) 17 minutes ago, Robert Blanko said: Any idea which lens would be most suited? Elmarit 21 ASPH seems to be the best choice? I'm wondering whether there is any information available which parameters are actually affected (one or more and which of vignetting, distortion, color cast,...) by the respective lens profiles on the respective camera type or whether this is Leica's secret. For instance the following website lists some profiles, but does not seem to shed light on the aforesaid question: https://lavidaleica.com/content/leica-lens-codes You can experiment by using manual selection. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 21, 2023 Posted May 21, 2023 Hi jaapv, Take a look here What do you think about the Voigtländer Color-Skopar 21mm f/4?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Ouroboros Posted May 21, 2023 Share #42 Posted May 21, 2023 On 4/20/2016 at 4:20 AM, Poki said: I know there are already a few threads which briefly touch on this lens, but I want to know: What do you think about the little 21mm f/4 Voigtländer? Back to the OP... I bought he 1st iteration CV 21mm f4 in ltm when it was announced. I bought it as a small and lightweight option for backpacking the Pennine Way. Small and light is about the only positive thing I remember the lens for. Contrast somewhat masks the fact it isn't a razor, but, oh dear, it's ability to flare is a real pita. When I finished the Pennine Way and saw how many Velvia images I had lost because of that lens, I got rid of it. Fast. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFo Posted May 21, 2023 Share #43 Posted May 21, 2023 I had started a thread for images from this lens here if you haven’t seen it. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Blanko Posted May 21, 2023 Share #44 Posted May 21, 2023 vor 9 Stunden schrieb Al Brown: If you browse the topic you will see that most have had the best results with 11134. Indeed, Elmarit 21 pre ASPH seems to work best. Just tested several alternatives, including Elmarit 21 ASPH. Pre ASPH is also easier to code, as you only have to paint the outermost right bit... 😉 I do not see any magenta edges anymore with said coding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted May 21, 2023 Share #45 Posted May 21, 2023 On 5/20/2023 at 5:05 AM, Robert Blanko said: Saturation set to maximum: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! It is not an easy lens on digital. I have to increase exposure compensation (+2/3 if not more) to get rid of this defect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kivis Posted May 21, 2023 Share #46 Posted May 21, 2023 A really really nice lens but it ain't no Leica Super-Elmar-M 21 f/3.4 ASPH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernstk Posted May 22, 2023 Share #47 Posted May 22, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, kivis said: A really really nice lens but it ain't no Leica Super-Elmar-M 21 f/3.4 ASPH. Of course it's not. But you wouldn't expect it to be, given that it's only 15% of the cost of the Super Elmar. Ernst Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted May 22, 2023 Share #48 Posted May 22, 2023 (edited) I use this lens on my M-P typ 240 and I don't find using any preset lenses help take away the red edges...so called Italian flag. I am further disappointed having just moved to Lightroom Classic (paid subscription), Adobe Flat Field Correction does not work properly...used to work flawlessly in my past Lightroom version 6.24. Now it won't keep the original DNG file in Lightroom... I have to futz around finding it on the hard drive and force it back into the Lightroom Classic catalogue. Flat Field correction used to work easily and perfectly for wide angle lenses for me in my cheaper stand-alone Lightroom. Now have the pleasure of paying Adobe a fee close to $200 Aus per annum, to have this feature with a big bug. ... Edited May 22, 2023 by david strachan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted May 22, 2023 Share #49 Posted May 22, 2023 This lens is excellent on an M8 camera with a 39mm UV/IR filter. Gives the equivalence of a 28mm lens view. Because the sensor crops the field of view of the lens, it takes away the soft edges and Italian Flag problem...it has quite some pop on an M8. ... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 23, 2023 Share #50 Posted May 23, 2023 On 5/22/2023 at 5:00 AM, david strachan said: This lens is excellent on an M8 camera with a 39mm UV/IR filter. Gives the equivalence of a 28mm lens view. Because the sensor crops the field of view of the lens, it takes away the soft edges and Italian Flag problem...it has quite some pop on an M8. Indeed, i did no need any correction in PP for snaps like these (M8.2). Now better avoid shooting into the light with the Skopar 21/4, unless flare is the photog's cup of tea. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/259498-what-do-you-think-about-the-voigtl%C3%A4nder-color-skopar-21mm-f4/?do=findComment&comment=4777721'>More sharing options...
lct Posted May 24, 2023 Share #51 Posted May 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Al Brown said: I think hardly anything beats this lens paired with Summicron-C 40/2 for travel regarding BOTH size and IQ. +1 at f/2. At f/2.8 and above, there are some rare or more expensive contenders: Elmarit-C 40/2.8, Macro-Elmar 90/4 to name a few, besides non-Leica lenses. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 24, 2023 Share #52 Posted May 24, 2023 (edited) Sorry i was confusing this thread with another one about 90mm lenses. Edited May 24, 2023 by lct Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Posted May 26, 2023 Share #53 Posted May 26, 2023 Quite fascinating results for such a tiny lens. How does it work on M10 (non R) or SL2-S ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted May 27, 2023 Share #54 Posted May 27, 2023 (edited) It seems nothing has changed on the above version from the original ltm version I had and hated. The random magenta blobs of flare and mediocre resolution are not something I could live with. I definitely do not share your enthusiasm for it, but good luck with it anyway Edited May 27, 2023 by Ouroboros 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 27, 2023 Share #55 Posted May 27, 2023 As far as my M-mount copy is concerned, vignetting is moderate compared to S-A 21/3.4 or Biogon 21/4.5, and the Skopar 21/4 is only softer at full aperture. It has more distortion though but it is easy to adjust in PP. Main issues are flare and color shifts (red edge) on M240 and, supposedly, M9 (no experience with it). Those issues are mostly addressed on the later Skopar 21/3.5 but it suffers from color fringing contrary to the 21/4 version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegelli Posted May 27, 2023 Share #56 Posted May 27, 2023 I think it's brilliant on my M246M , can't beat the size and for my use sharp enough. I don't have a colour Leica but on my Sony's it indeed shows some colour shift towards purple in the corners, but nothing that a bit of simple PP can't solve. And from everything I've read its performance on colour Leica's is better than on Sony's. Other than that I find the rendering and colours it produces very nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 27, 2023 Share #57 Posted May 27, 2023 Skopar 21/4 at f/4 on M11: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/259498-what-do-you-think-about-the-voigtl%C3%A4nder-color-skopar-21mm-f4/?do=findComment&comment=4781019'>More sharing options...
Xavier Posted May 27, 2023 Share #58 Posted May 27, 2023 10 hours ago, Al Brown said: If you are looking for an UWA travel lens to accompany your tiny M arsenal (Summaron 28/5.6, Elmarit 28mm/2.8 ASPH, Color Skopar 35/2.5, Summilux 35 pre-asph, Summaron 35/2.8, Summicron-C 40/2, Nokton 40/1.4, Elmar 50/2.8 collapsible) this is the one! Thanks a lot for your replies! Indeed, I have a special liking for tiny lenses, and am looking to build up a set with several of those you mention here... (considering the two 28s and the 40s as well...). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted June 19, 2023 Share #59 Posted June 19, 2023 I got mine few years ago. Only recently figured out how to deal with magenta corners. It is not present if I set auto exposure metering with +1 compensation. On M-E 220, mine is LTM with its "hood": Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/259498-what-do-you-think-about-the-voigtl%C3%A4nder-color-skopar-21mm-f4/?do=findComment&comment=4797119'>More sharing options...
Huss Posted June 20, 2023 Share #60 Posted June 20, 2023 Huh, never thought about trying it on my 10r. Will do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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