wlaidlaw Posted November 4, 2015 Share #341 Posted November 4, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) That is great. The ultrasonic system comes from Olympus, and then Panasonic, very effective... maybe it explains the size of the body. I never fail to be amazed just how clean my Oly EP-5 keeps its sensor and I change lenses quite a lot with it. Excellent choice by Leica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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k-hawinkler Posted November 4, 2015 Share #342 Posted November 4, 2015 I never fail to be amazed just how clean my Oly EP-5 keeps its sensor and I change lenses quite a lot with it. Excellent choice by Leica. +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted November 4, 2015 Share #343 Posted November 4, 2015 I never fail to be amazed just how clean my Oly EP-5 keeps its sensor and I change lenses quite a lot with it. Excellent choice by Leica. Indeed! The incorporation of top-notch automatic sensor cleaning from the first Olympus E-System camera onwards shows how much thought they put into the first "designed from scratch" interchangeable lens digital-capture system. It's a wonder to me that all the other guys didn't do the same. Incorporating the same cleaning system into the M, S, and T cameras would be fantastic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted November 4, 2015 Share #344 Posted November 4, 2015 I never fail to be amazed just how clean my Oly EP-5 keeps its sensor and I change lenses quite a lot with it. Excellent choice by Leica. It is the best in the market! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted November 5, 2015 Share #345 Posted November 5, 2015 Looks like I will confirm my order for the SL, but not the lens at this stage. I have excellent M primes from 21 to 90, and I've acquired a 180mm R lens, and 2x extender. That gives me 21-28-35-50-75-90-180-360 all great lenses. Let's see how that works out ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted November 5, 2015 Share #346 Posted November 5, 2015 Looks like I will confirm my order for the SL, but not the lens at this stage. I have excellent M primes from 21 to 90, and I've acquired a 180mm R lens, and 2x extender. That gives me 21-28-35-50-75-90-180-360 all great lenses. Let's see how that works out ... Thanks John. I am looking forward to your findings. Do you also plan to compare the results with another camera, like the M240? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted November 5, 2015 Share #347 Posted November 5, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yes, that's the plan - M Edition 60, but not with the R lens as I have no live view. I'd have to say, Karl-Heinz, you were an inspiration for me. I read up about the R lenses, and the APO-Elmarit 180 looked like a good bet. Adding an extender and getting 360 @ 5.6 seemed a no-brainer. The camera performs well at higher ISOs, and so I'm getting two lenses for one. I look forward ward to trying the camera out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted November 5, 2015 Share #348 Posted November 5, 2015 Ah, another SLer. :-) i hope we all see our cameras soon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted November 5, 2015 Share #349 Posted November 5, 2015 Yes, that's the plan - M Edition 60, but not with the R lens as I have no live view. I'd have to say, Karl-Heinz, you were an inspiration for me. I read up about the R lenses, and the APO-Elmarit 180 looked like a good bet. Adding an extender and getting 360 @ 5.6 seemed a no-brainer. The camera performs well at higher ISOs, and so I'm getting two lenses for one. I look forward ward to trying the camera out. Thank you John. I am flattered! Two points. One has to be a bit careful about which lenses the APO-Extender-R 1.4x and 2x can be attached to. I don't have your lens but assume you are fine with that. But please make sure before you attach. The 1.4x is more of a problem as it protrudes. For example I can attach it to one of my lenses, but shouldn't. Why? Because its glass would collide with the last element of the lens when focusing. There are documents around that specify which lens can be used with which adapter. Good luck. Actually, you could use your R lens on your M Edition 60 if you had another EVF camera you could focus with. It's a bit cumbersome but it works very well with Novoflex adapters as they seem precisely made. I did that with my M9, NEX-5N, and APO-Telyt-R 280/4. Telyt on tripod - frame and focus with NEX-5N - switch out adapter and camera, focus should be maintained - then shoot with the M9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhsimmonds Posted November 5, 2015 Share #350 Posted November 5, 2015 If Leica are indeed using the Olympus sensor cleaning system; it is excellent. I use solely Oly mFT cameras, E-M1's mostly but I have also used the earlier E-M5. Although I use two bodies in the field, I change lenses in all environments without a moment's thought and have never needed to clean a sensor yet. These days I use mostly mZuiko Pro lenses which like the camera bodies are dust proof and water proof and capable of use in sub zero as well as desert conditions, both of which I have personally proved! Another goal for Leica to aim for as they introduce new lenses for the SL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 5, 2015 Share #351 Posted November 5, 2015 Thank you John. I am flattered! Two points. One has to be a bit careful about which lenses the APO-Extender-R 1.4x and 2x can be attached to. I don't have your lens but assume you are fine with that. But please make sure before you attach. The 1.4x is more of a problem as it protrudes. For example I can attach it to one of my lenses, but shouldn't. Why? Because its glass would collide with the last element of the lens when focusing. There are documents around that specify which lens can be used with which adapter. Good luck. Actually, you could use your R lens on your M Edition 60 if you had another EVF camera you could focus with. It's a bit cumbersome but it works very well with Novoflex adapters as they seem precisely made. I did that with my M9, NEX-5N, and APO-Telyt-R 280/4. Telyt on tripod - frame and focus with NEX-5N - switch out adapter and camera, focus should be maintained - then shoot with the M9. As far as I am aware there is no R lens that does not accept the 2x extender. One note of caution: Attach the extender to the body first and then mount the lens. Or toggle the aperture linkage when fitting to the lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted November 5, 2015 Share #352 Posted November 5, 2015 If Leica are indeed using the Olympus sensor cleaning system; it is excellent. I use solely Oly mFT cameras, E-M1's mostly but I have also used the earlier E-M5. Although I use two bodies in the field, I change lenses in all environments without a moment's thought and have never needed to clean a sensor yet. These days I use mostly mZuiko Pro lenses which like the camera bodies are dust proof and water proof and capable of use in sub zero as well as desert conditions, both of which I have personally proved! Another goal for Leica to aim for as they introduce new lenses for the SL. The only downside of the Olympus sensor cleaning system is that you cannot wet clean it yourself. This is for two reasons. Firstly your can damage the magnetic suspension system for the IBIS, so this needs to be powered up in a special way to lock the sensor prior to cleaning. Secondly, when you wet clean, you will remove the antistatic coating from the sensor cover glass. When Olympus themselves wet clean the sensor, they replace the anti static coating afterwards. Now the first obviously does not apply to Leica, as it has no IBIS but the second may. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted November 5, 2015 Share #353 Posted November 5, 2015 @K-H and @jaapv -- can you offer links to the documents that describe use of the 1.4X and 2.0X R extenders? I bought an 1.4X extender without sufficient research a while ago, and am still trying to figure out where to use it. thanks in advance, scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski542002 Posted November 5, 2015 Share #354 Posted November 5, 2015 Looks like I will confirm my order for the SL, but not the lens at this stage. I have excellent M primes from 21 to 90, and I've acquired a 180mm R lens, and 2x extender. That gives me 21-28-35-50-75-90-180-360 all great lenses. Let's see how that works out ... John, I am in a similar situation, but don't have the 90/M. I do have the 180 Apo-R. Use all with my M240 for 95% of my shooting, realizing splendid quality and usability. Eventually I'd like to get the voightlander 15. Initially I was cold to the SL, but if it provides even better image quality than the M240, with the ability to use my M & M/R lens with adapter, I'd strongly consider it. I also shoot with Canon Series cameras, so the size of the SL is a non-issue with me. Would like to hear a followup from you when you test your SL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted November 5, 2015 Share #355 Posted November 5, 2015 [...] if it provides even better image quality than the M240 [...] I see no reason why it would be better IQ wise but i may be wrong. At least the SL will be vastly faster than the M240 in EVF mode, there is no doubt about it. Less loud also if i understand well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski542002 Posted November 5, 2015 Share #356 Posted November 5, 2015 If I may ask. How does the in-camera metering system function with the M & R lenses on the SL? Is it similar to stop-down metering in the very old Canon SLR bodies; you would need to stop down the lens to your shooting aperture to take a reading in-camera, and then open the aperture to focus accurately? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted November 5, 2015 Share #357 Posted November 5, 2015 If I may ask. How does the in-camera metering system function with the M & R lenses on the SL? Is it similar to stop-down metering in the very old Canon SLR bodies; you would need to stop down the lens to your shooting aperture to take a reading in-camera, and then open the aperture to focus accurately? Yes, you meter at the 'taking' apeture, although with the EVF you should be able to focus at the taking aperture also and the viewfinder brightness level will compensate for smaller apertures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski542002 Posted November 5, 2015 Share #358 Posted November 5, 2015 Thanks James, for the clarification. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted November 5, 2015 Share #359 Posted November 5, 2015 Hmm. A 2x teleconverter sounds like a good idea ... that will bring my Telyt 250 out to a 500/8, just fine for occasional use. Maybe ... :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted November 5, 2015 Share #360 Posted November 5, 2015 Very shocking test results of the 28 lux on the SL at reidreviews. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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