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The 1951 Summaron continues to amaze and delight me- its combination of tonal range and sharpness is really something else, considering what it is! Here's the latest from it:

 

Discarded Tube, February, 2010

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If you click through and look at the full-size version, even more detail opens up. Amazed and delighted, I am!

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is even more fascinating IMO than the newest and sharpest...   Here a 28/5.6 Summaron on a cold winter morning.... I am convinced that old glass and digital M has something special, very subjective

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Maggie...great detail!

and a lovely lens indeed.....

 

Here one from yesterday with a 1957 50 Lux.....

 

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Well... that is matter of specialists... :o... 1.640.916 is a number of 1958, indeed (Laney, Lager, Sartorius, Rogliatti... all agree) : but the Summilux 50 SEEMS that started at 1.645.301 (the first number officially assigned to 1959): so yours is really one of the very very first... probably some little batch manufactured before general availability... really an interesting item: I surely never saw such a low number : there are protoypes numbered 0000xxx (typical prototype numbering of that era) that probably can be dated to 1958, and also some "Summarit 5 cm f 1,4" into 1.546.xxx range, also 1958 numbers (as you probably know, the first Summilux is at all a Summarit... design changed at 1.844.001).

If you want to make happy forum members that devote their attention mostly to the "Collectors and historical" section, post in it a pic of your item... you'll surely have some good observation about... :)

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luigi

 

thanks a lot!

 

will post an image of it in the forum you mention in coming days....the glass is perfect but with a small dent in the screw thread where I literally dropped it in my office a year or so ago:(

 

thanks for the info...the plot thickens;)

 

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Well... that is matter of specialists... :o... 1.640.916 is a number of 1958, indeed (Laney, Lager, Sartorius, Rogliatti... all agree) : but the Summilux 50 SEEMS that started at 1.645.301 (the first number officially assigned to 1959): so yours is really one of the very very first... probably some little batch manufactured before general availability... really an interesting item: I surely never saw such a low number : there are protoypes numbered 0000xxx (typical prototype numbering of that era) that probably can be dated to 1958, and also some "Summarit 5 cm f 1,4" into 1.546.xxx range, also 1958 numbers (as you probably know, the first Summilux is at all a Summarit... design changed at 1.844.001).

If you want to make happy forum members that devote their attention mostly to the "Collectors and historical" section, post in it a pic of your item... you'll surely have some good observation about... :)

 

Thiele lists the numbers 1.640.601 - 1.642.000 for the 50 Summilux of 1958 in his "Kleines Fabrikationshandbuch - Leica Objektive", 3. ed., 2007.

So Andy's number could proove him right.

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Thiele lists the numbers 1.640.601 - 1.642.000 for the 50 Summilux of 1958 in his "Kleines Fabrikationshandbuch - Leica Objektive", 3. ed., 2007.

So Andy's number could proove him right.

 

Thanks for the info... I didn't know that book... boy,1.640.916 is REALLY one of the VERY first !!! Nice... hope to see a pic of it...

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Well... that is matter of specialists... :o... 1.640.916 is a number of 1958, indeed (Laney, Lager, Sartorius, Rogliatti... all agree) : but the Summilux 50 SEEMS that started at 1.645.301 (the first number officially assigned to 1959): so yours is really one of the very very first... probably some little batch manufactured before general availability... really an interesting item: I surely never saw such a low number : there are protoypes numbered 0000xxx (typical prototype numbering of that era) that probably can be dated to 1958, and also some "Summarit 5 cm f 1,4" into 1.546.xxx range, also 1958 numbers (as you probably know, the first Summilux is at all a Summarit... design changed at 1.844.001).

If you want to make happy forum members that devote their attention mostly to the "Collectors and historical" section, post in it a pic of your item... you'll surely have some good observation about... :)

Erwin Puts, who has had access to the factory records gives as the first Summilux number 1640601. But as year 1959. So it would fit in with the official factory record. Very early indeed.
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M8 + Canon 50/1.2 - I was on the verge of selling this lens to fund a 35 Summicron ASPH or v4, but using it more, I can see it's quite a lovely lens... looks like my Summicron will take longer than expected:) Both shot in JPEG, first is cropped a little, second used Viveza to lighten up the face a bit. No other editing...

 

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1935 Carl Zeiss Jens 5cm F1.5 converted to Leica Thread Mount using a J-3 focus mount. This is the first one that I've converted, done about 2~3 years ago for my film cameras. No change in the shim was required for use on my M8.

 

Wide-Open at F1.5:

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This lens is unusual in that the front element is coated. I'm not sure if it was done after the lens was made, or if Zeiss was experimenting with the process. I have seen a few other lenses from this "175" block with coated front elements.

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