M9 full specs and pictures are out. Let's discuss.

[adan]

To get back on topic. As an unreconstructed film-only user, who reads these threads purely out of interest, can I ask the following. Is there any indication on how Leica solved the formidable technical problems associated with the highly oblique rays of the short M system back-focus distance and a full frame sensor?

 

Pretty much the way they did with the M8 - only more so. Combination of offset microlenses above the pixels, plus in-camera processing of the data according to the focal length coded on the lenses. Apparently an advance in IR filtering technology as well.

 

I'm strongly considering running over to Salt Lake City, where there will be a Leica demo Wed. as part of the 9/9/09 rollout - worth a 15-hour round-trip drive to try out my 15 c/v, 21, and other lenses.

[gwelland]

To get back on topic. As an unreconstructed film-only user, who reads these threads purely out of interest, can I ask the following. Is there any indication on how Leica solved the formidable technical problems associated with the highly oblique rays of the short M system back-focus distance and a full frame sensor?

 

Micro lenses that are centred on the sensor in the middle of the imager but gradually offset as you move away from the centre. The example shown has the edge sensor/micro lens offset to the side and shows more light being captured by the offset micro lens to the side.

 

It should be interesting to see how smooth this transition for end-on micro lenses to offset micro lenses is in reality.

Edited September 5, 2009 by gwelland

[sps]

No mention of improved weather sealing, and the shutter release looks the same. I'm still hopeful.

 

Otherwise very excited. I used to live on slow film and really appreciate the 80 setting.

 

I can't wait to hear the new shutter. I like that changing ISO is like dialing exposure comp on my M7. Maintain a slight pressure and turn the dial. Once you get the hang of which direction does what, I'm guessing that each click will be one move across that grid.

 

The Lightroom comment doesn't only mention a 16 bit workflow, it says the 16 bit data captured by the sensor. I'm guessing this means 16 bit D/A's.

 

For sale shortly will be a pristine M8.2 in black paint.

[JHAG]

How usable have ISO 50, 64 and 100 been at times of film?

 

Of course, using mostly Summilux lenses, in broad daylight ISO 160 is often giving too many highlights. ISO 80 would be most welcome.

[sps]

Here's an observation. The black paint one on page 30 has the new M8.2 vulcanite. The anthracite one on page 34 has the old M8 cover.

[twittle]

I'm strongly considering running over to Salt Lake City, where there will be a Leica demo Wed. as part of the 9/9/09 rollout - worth a 15-hour round-trip drive to try out my 15 c/v, 21, and other lenses.

 

I may make the short drive to SLC, too, if I can find the time. I went to the Pictureline Leica Days event last year to see the new 21 Lux.

[Guest roey]

Apparently the M9 doesn't support the high speed sync feature they built into the SF-58 (the M7 does, though). Too bad...

[Overgaard]

The M9 has all it need to have to be a proper M9. Full frame and ISO and quiet shutter. That's all we need. And the grey even looks ok so I guess I'll be having that one after all.

 

The X1. Interesting little piece. Hope the price will be 1,999$ or less. Seem like an object of desire we almost all want one of

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[Fernmelder]

Is it sealed against dust/weather? I doubt that, since it is mentioned operating conditions from 0 to +40°C.

[stevelap]

Since this is the M8 forum I started an X1 thread in the Digital Forum, in the (perhaps vain) hope of keeping comments on the two new cameras separate in the interests of clarity.

 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/digital-forum/97325-leica-x1-discuss.html

 

I may be tilting at the wind here:).

Edited September 5, 2009 by stevelap

[lct]

Is it sealed against dust/weather? I doubt that, since it is mentioned operating conditions from 0 to +40°C.

No sealing mentionned in the 'technical data' so far.

[JHAG]

Is it sealed against dust/weather? I doubt that, since it is mentioned operating conditions from 0 to +40°C.

 

I shot with the M8 by minus 5°/10° without any problem.

Granted, it was at 2200 m, indry mountain air.

[UliWer]

Something completely different - and certainly not for some X1s

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Am I right that the current 35 Summilux Asph. weighs approx 250 g (black) and 415g (silver)?

 

How comes that some rumours tell us it weighs 320g ?

[Fernmelder]

Something completely different - and certainly not for some X1s

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Am I right that the current 35 Summilux Asph. weighs approx 250 g (black) and 415g (silver)?

 

How comes that some rumours tell us it weighs 320g ?

 

Grey paint to match M9?

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[yanidel]

Something completely different - and certainly not for some X1s

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Am I right that the current 35 Summilux Asph. weighs approx 250 g (black) and 415g (silver)?

 

How comes that some rumours tell us it weighs 320g ?

My black one weights 320g. I have seen that mistake many times (250g), wonder if some spec sheets were wrongly printed at some point.

[Bo_Lorentzen]

70 grams of paint... I believe in paint, sand, paint, sand.. but still... thats a lot of paint.

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[JHAG]

Something completely different - and certainly not for some X1s

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Am I right that the current 35 Summilux Asph. weighs approx 250 g (black) and 415g (silver)?

 

How comes that some rumours tell us it weighs 320g ?

 

Because rumours run underground (high pressure).

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[KM-25]

Pretty much the way they did with the M8 - only more so. Combination of offset microlenses above the pixels, plus in-camera processing of the data according to the focal length coded on the lenses. Apparently an advance in IR filtering technology as well.

 

I'm strongly considering running over to Salt Lake City, where there will be a Leica demo Wed. as part of the 9/9/09 rollout - worth a 15-hour round-trip drive to try out my 15 c/v, 21, and other lenses.

 

Andy, I might meet you out there, I am in Aspen, I am headed to Reno, Nevada to have my "Kodachrome-home" installed. I have to be in Reno Thursday morning. If the the M9 is around 6-7K and they have them to sell right away, I might just pull the trigger, sell my virtually unused D3 and Nikon / Zeiss primes.

 

Where is it in S/L?

 

It would also be a great time for me to petition to them to get sponsorship for my project, I am shooting 70-80% of it with Leica gear.

 

Drop me a PM.

Edited September 5, 2009 by KM-25

[Fotomiguel]

It was about 17:00 hours when I saw the M9 brochure and technical data. I'm really impressed and happy. The m9 samples seems to be taken under hard light conditions. Dinamique range seems to be incredible. The M9 has many identical components of the M8, but they change very important internal parts.So they can produce many m9 easily and soon. I've already preordered one but I'll call my dealer to rush him a little bit.

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[nugat]

Indeed the pics from Cuba are very nice. Makes me wanna pick up my MP and M6 along with Elmarit 21mm and Summilux 35mm and a bag of Velvia and...vamos!