egibaud Posted September 1, 2009 Share #281 Posted September 1, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Maybe this is not an M9 but a Mh or Mb for Hybrid or Bastard LOL A mix of several components of M cameras or what said earlier just a prototype.... If the M9 is THE M camera.... I guess a lever for optionally recocking the shutter would be there too... Leica is playing with us, the more and less they show the more expectation they create... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted September 1, 2009 Share #282 Posted September 1, 2009 Ok, but the "M9" in the video seems to be more quadratic. And why does leica elevate the top plate? Not for fullframe... it`s because of the quadratic framelines in the vf! Or just a larger window to remove some design restrictions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 1, 2009 Share #283 Posted September 1, 2009 Or just a larger window to remove some design restrictions. Or a larger window to allow for higher magnification and 28mm framelines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljclark Posted September 1, 2009 Share #284 Posted September 1, 2009 Ergonomically, the index finger of the left hand would rest in the cut out, in the same position as it would on the M8 series. The left index finger might be up there if this was a P&S. For a proper camera, the left index finger in the more correct shooting position is under the lens, closest to the front of the the lens as the left hand "palms" the camera...Just like we were taught in school, and shown in most user manuals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted September 1, 2009 Share #285 Posted September 1, 2009 For a proper camera, the left index finger in the more correct shooting position is under the lens, closest to the front of the the lens as the left hand "palms" the camera Is the camera in your signature photo not proper? Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 1, 2009 Share #286 Posted September 1, 2009 Bent left index finger under the focus tab to me. Are there other ways to use it really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamriman Posted September 1, 2009 Share #287 Posted September 1, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have a feeling we might see some more teasers in the up coming days. Perhaps a framed leak? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpstjp Posted September 1, 2009 Share #288 Posted September 1, 2009 I have a feeling we might see some more teasers in the up coming days. Perhaps a framed leak? Or maybe a leaked frame? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telyt2003 Posted September 1, 2009 Share #289 Posted September 1, 2009 Or just a larger window to remove some design restrictions. Please correct me, if this has been mentioned before: In sec. 36 of the video, the FRONT of the new camera (engraved as an M8!) can be seen in my opinion. Most interesting features are - as compared with the M8/M8.2 as we know it: All the proportions and distances of the front elements have changed, among them... - The top is much higher (all along its width) - The viewfinder window is much bigger/higher - The rangefinder base could be greater (M8 engraving closer to edge, small window closer to M8 engraving)?, - The step below the viewfinder window is greater (with the result that the window and the silver ring of the bayonet protruding from the body are in register; this probably allows for a 0.72x magnification of the viewfinder [the 0.68x of the M8/M8.2 probably resulted from the protruding bayonet ring without adapting the position of the viewfinder window]) Telyt2003 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/95052-m9-spotted-in-leica-youtube-video/?do=findComment&comment=1013515'>More sharing options...
ljclark Posted September 1, 2009 Share #290 Posted September 1, 2009 Is the camera in your signature photo not proper? Jeff Considering it is mounted on a tripod, I'd say VERY proper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 1, 2009 Share #291 Posted September 1, 2009 Let`s resume : 1. It is higher, but smaller and the viewfinder seems to be higher, too.2. It is thinner! 3. Leica said it`s difficult to implement a FF-sensor into a Leica M. 4. It is more difficult to implement a FF-sensor into a thinner Leica M. 5. It will be a revolution... Conclusion: The Leica M9 will be a digital rangefinder camera with a 27mm x 27mm CCD- sensor!!! Probably easier to implement a 27x27 than a 24x36... .... but Leica CANNOT do like this in a M camera, period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 1, 2009 Share #292 Posted September 1, 2009 but what could be the difference between a compact m-mount 18x27 sensor camera and the m8, except for the size of the body?less features? m8 already has the perfect minimum less image quality? i cannot imagine with the same size sensor, we are almost 4 years later, so i would sooner say better IQ (no uv/ir filters and better high iso performance) if a CLD would be the only new camera body leica introduces, it should be different (in sensor size) from the m8, or they kill m8 sales when two camera's will be introduced, a smaller and 'cheaper' (€1700) 18x27 CLD can exist very well next to an expensive (€5500) full frame m9 cheers sam That's exactly what I think : FF M9 + 18x27 "CLD" both to be annouced ... it could have something less than M8 in terms of VF, for instance (less frames ?), justified by compactness:my doubt is about the RF... if it would be the same as M8, there are strict limits on body width shrinking, but would it be worth to design a NEW RF ? (they made it for CL, but it was 35 years ago... ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markgay Posted September 1, 2009 Share #293 Posted September 1, 2009 Fair point about the left index finger being under the lens rather than on the top plate. I was wrong to talk about ergonomics. What I mean is appearance: the cut out on the left of the top plate giving the appearance that the camera is not so tall. As to the frame at 00:00:36, referenced above, I have a feeling the video editor has taken a crop for a close up and resized it: the M8 looks squashed, side to side, rather than tall. Look at the "M", it's more narrow than the squat typeface Leica uses for the M. I don't think that is a massive new rangefinder window on an M9. Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 1, 2009 Share #294 Posted September 1, 2009 Ergonomics do not appear to have gotten much consideration, I mean, an LCD so far to the left will be smeared with fingerprints all the time, and buttons on the left edge will be pushed inadvertently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpstjp Posted September 1, 2009 Share #295 Posted September 1, 2009 Ergonomics do not appear to have gotten much consideration, I mean, an LCD so far to the left will be smeared with fingerprints all the time, and buttons on the left edge will be pushed inadvertently. Those buttons would certainly present a conundrum to Luigi as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuco Posted September 1, 2009 Share #296 Posted September 1, 2009 That's exactly what I think : FF M9 + 18x27 "CLD" both to be annouced ... it could have something less than M8 in terms of VF, for instance (less frames ?), justified by compactness:my doubt is about the RF... if it would be the same as M8, there are strict limits on body width shrinking, but would it be worth to design a NEW RF ? (they made it for CL, but it was 35 years ago... ) yes, maybe only the fixed frames for the new version of the smaller and lighter F2.8 tri-elmar that will be anounced the 9th, the so called kit-lens for the CLD but there is still this design flaw, would have been easy to change, i did from the first week, not beautifully made, but it works so i didn't make a proper one cheers sam Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/95052-m9-spotted-in-leica-youtube-video/?do=findComment&comment=1013571'>More sharing options...
sfokevin Posted September 1, 2009 Share #297 Posted September 1, 2009 One should also note that the M8 is also strongly featured in this video... That would tell me that thay are not just going to discontinue it and replace it with an M9... So this new camera may not be the the second coming many are preaching... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephengilbert Posted September 1, 2009 Share #298 Posted September 1, 2009 Forgive me if this has been mentioned (there are 290 posts here!), but do people think this hypothetical entry level CLD is going to be manufactured in Germany, or even Portugal? I owned a Leica CL, and I doubt it was ever in Europe before I took it to Spain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 1, 2009 Share #299 Posted September 1, 2009 Nobody even knows anything about a CLD, let alone whether it will be made in Germany, Portugal, Ireland or India... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephengilbert Posted September 1, 2009 Share #300 Posted September 1, 2009 Nobody knows anything about anything, Jaap. My point was that people are speculating about a low priced "CLD" without appearing to consider the fact that the original CL was made in Japan by Minolta, and was arguably not a Leica at all. I guess I didn't understand all the rules that apply to this exercise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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