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2 hours ago, DreiPunkte said:

 

The current Hugo line of LPL mount lenses has a few interesting anomalies compared to the base M lens set  https://www.leitz-cine.com/product/hugo

Will see in the future M mount  18/1.4 , 40/1.4 , 66/2 , and 135/1.8 ? 
( some of these might become f/1.2 lenses when de-spec’d to photo standards ; remember those 40/1.2 Noctilux images Leica rumours labelled as 35/1.2 - despite a 40mm depth of field scale printed on them )

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1 minute ago, DreiPunkte said:

Can a LTM lens with an M mount adapter be considered an M lens?
No its a lens that works on the M mount but with rangefinder coupling.

Wait. Those are the first M mount lenses. Plus the name starts with L(eica).

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28 minutes ago, DreiPunkte said:

Can a LTM lens with an M mount adapter be considered an M lens?
No its a lens that works on the M mount but with rangefinder coupling.

No. It’s an adapted lens. It will always be an LTM lens and not an M bayonet lens.

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15 minutes ago, algrove said:

Wait. Those are the first M mount lenses. Plus the name starts with L(eica).

Sorry, a clear NO.
The M mount was born with the first M camera and that was the M3 in 1954 and this is the first Camera with the m mouth bayonet.
And with this camera Leica shows first time the rangefinder und the viewfinder in one window.

LTM (Leica Thread Mount) is a m39 thread to screw lenses in the  first Leicas with interchangebel Lenses.

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54 minutes ago, DreiPunkte said:

Can a LTM lens with an M mount adapter be considered an M lens?
No its a lens that works on the M mount but with rangefinder coupling.

Adapted LTM lenses do work on the M mount and have RF coupling as well. They can be pen coded through the adapter too. A LTM lens is not an M lens because... it is an LTM lens :D

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32 minutes ago, BernardC said:

Unless it's one of the early M lenses that was actually an LTM lens with an M adapter attached?

Several Leica lenses used to be sold as both LTM and M variants in the 60s and some (one?) of them did include a built-in LTM to M adapter. The "Dual Mount" Summaron 35/2.8 springs to mind but there are perhaps other examples, i don't remember sorry. Dual Mount 35/2.8 below.

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42 minutes ago, DadDadDaddyo said:

I have to say, the cell phone call performance of my M11 is simply terrible. 

Not even dropped calls, but a constant failure to connect.

Can't anybody do anything right?

And the back screen is about the size of a 1998 Nokia and won't even send a text. Can't Leica do anything right???

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58 minutes ago, lct said:

Several Leica lenses used to be sold as both LTM and M variants in the 60s and some (one?) of them did include a built-in LTM to M adapter. The "Dual Mount" Summaron 35/2.8 springs to mind but there are perhaps other examples, i don't remember sorry. Dual Mount 35/2.8 below.

The first version Super Angolan 21/4 could do that, too.

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