Leica Q3 Firmware V 2.0.1 (merged)

[Le Chef]

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32 minutes ago, reynoldsyoung said:

My install kept the profile set as well.  When you select a profile, is it retained when you move about the menu?  Or, do you have to reselected that profile each time you power on the camera?

The profile selected is kept as I move around the menu. If I just click on a setting on the summary page (eg AWB) and make no change it will revert to the summary page and the profile remains set. However…if I select AFS but make no change it goes to Default. If I change any setting the Profile goes to Default. If I reset the Profile (say #4) when I power up that profile comes back up.

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[BobsFirstLeica]

1 hour ago, SrMi said:

After 12 hours, mine takes about 2-3 seconds to start. After that, it is instant.

Yup. Same here.  I took a stopwatch (iPhone) and timed it.  I'm resigned to an "initial" slow startup.  The Q3's other attributes and qualities are what make it a pleasure to use.

[MikeD70]

1 hour ago, SrMi said:

After 12 hours, mine takes about 2-3 seconds to start. After that, it is instant.

Ditto.  Upgraded yesterday.  Just checked start time.  The same as you say, about 3 the first time, and instant thereafter.  I never really paid much attention to the start times before, but I think it is probably faster now.  I never had any problems with battery life either, but I know there have been a lot of folks complaining about that issue also.  Gotta say, having had all three Q's, this one is by far the best.  

[Stephen_C]

For those having apparent problems with user profiles I thought it might be worth repeating something I posted a long time ago (after a very helpful exchange of correspondence with Leica technical department). Please note I'm not denying some people are having problems after upgrading to the new firmware but merely felt it might be helpful to repeat this (having failed to find my original post using the forum search!):

1. If you select a User Profile and modify it it is not marked with an x on the status scree. Rather, on that screen, the user profile number on the icon disappears. If you check the current profile in the full menu it will show Active if a profile has been selected and not modified. Otherwise it does not show Active.

2. The profile marked with an x on the status screen is actually the Cancel function to get you out of the menu.

3. If you set a User Profile, modify a setting then turn off the camera and then turn it on again you start up with exactly the same settings (i.e., the modified User Profile).

Edit: I've not yet had the chance to check whether any of that iconography has changed with the latest firmware update.

Stephen

 

Edited January 13, 2024 by Stephen_C
Clarification

[adrianh]

1 hour ago, BobsFirstLeica said:

New Firmware Installed.  Allowed camera to sit unused for 13 hours, battery not changed.  Startup time:  4 seconds, no change from the past.  Only situations when startup time is virtually instantaneous is when it has been off for a very short time then turned back on. Bob

Same here. Instant after 2 hrs of not using it. As slow as before if unused for longer than 12 hrs. 

[wlaidlaw]

1 hour ago, Stephen_C said:

For those having apparent problems with user profiles I thought it might be worth repeating something I posted a long time ago (after a very helpful exchange of correspondence with Leica technical department). Please note I'm not denying some people are having problems after upgrading to the new firmware but merely felt it might be helpful to repeat this (having failed to find my original post using the forum search!):

1. If you select a User Profile and modify it it is not marked with an x on the status scree. Rather, on that screen, the user profile number on the icon disappears. If you check the current profile in the full menu it will show Active if a profile has been selected and not modified. Otherwise it does not show Active.

2. The profile marked with an x on the status screen is actually the Cancel function to get you out of the menu.

3. If you set a User Profile, modify a setting then turn off the camera and then turn it on again you start up with exactly the same settings (i.e., the modified User Profile).

Edit: I've not yet had the chance to check whether any of that iconography has changed with the latest firmware update.

Stephen

 

The Q3 is not actually behaving like that after FW update. Instead of reverting to the unmodified selected profile, it is reverting to the manufacturer default profile after being off for a number of hours. 

Wilson

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21 hours ago, M11 for me said:

And there are new bugs:

In the overview menu under your profiles all 6 profiles show up including the ones that are not used . . .

Indeed the unused profiles are imported as well. I noticed this too and deleted the unused profiles. After that they don't appear anymore in the overview menu.

[Carrot]

Not finding start up speed is improved. My Profile “1” is not retained after turning off and having made no setting changes, it comes back in with the non-numbered profile.

And status screen stayed on when turned off the camera, and unable to do anything when turned it back on. Had to remove battery. 

Edited January 13, 2024 by Carrot

[Cheesehead]

4 hours ago, Stephen_C said:

For those having apparent problems with user profiles I thought it might be worth repeating something I posted a long time ago (after a very helpful exchange of correspondence with Leica technical department). Please note I'm not denying some people are having problems after upgrading to the new firmware but merely felt it might be helpful to repeat this (having failed to find my original post using the forum search!):

1. If you select a User Profile and modify it it is not marked with an x on the status scree. Rather, on that screen, the user profile number on the icon disappears. If you check the current profile in the full menu it will show Active if a profile has been selected and not modified. Otherwise it does not show Active.

2. The profile marked with an x on the status screen is actually the Cancel function to get you out of the menu.

3. If you set a User Profile, modify a setting then turn off the camera and then turn it on again you start up with exactly the same settings (i.e., the modified User Profile).

Edit: I've not yet had the chance to check whether any of that iconography has changed with the latest firmware update.

Stephen

 

You are describing how the camera should behave.

My impression after doing the update is a bit more complicated.

Prior to the upgrade I had a custom profile for 1, 2 and 3. The others were unused.

I exported the profiles to my SD card and did an upgrade of the OS from the Lecia site using my SD card.

After the upgrade I imported my profiles back from the SD.

When I selected a profile, it pulled in the profile, but didn't give me feed back that the profile was selected. Anything other than the default profile, just showed my the little head and shoulders icon, but without the profile number. Turning the camera off, and then back on, kept the profile setting but again I could see the head and shoulders only, without the number indicating which profile was actually selected.

I went back to the profile menu and resaved them. (selected profile 1 and then saved it as profile 1, 2 as 2 and 3 as 3). once I did that the camera would once again show me which profile was selected by displaying the head and shoulders icon with the profile number next to it.

The other thing it did was added a profile 4 and 5 which are identical to the default profile (since I had never made a 4 or 5). I just have to avoid those profiles until I get around to saving something useful in them.

In the end it seemed upgrade was a bit sloppy, at least for the custom profiles. Easy enough for me to go back and correct the problem, but I should not have had to figure a workaround.

[reynoldsyoung]

5 hours ago, Stephen_C said:

For those having apparent problems with user profiles I thought it might be worth repeating something I posted a long time ago (after a very helpful exchange of correspondence with Leica technical department). Please note I'm not denying some people are having problems after upgrading to the new firmware but merely felt it might be helpful to repeat this (having failed to find my original post using the forum search!):

1. If you select a User Profile and modify it it is not marked with an x on the status scree. Rather, on that screen, the user profile number on the icon disappears. If you check the current profile in the full menu it will show Active if a profile has been selected and not modified. Otherwise it does not show Active.

2. The profile marked with an x on the status screen is actually the Cancel function to get you out of the menu.

3. If you set a User Profile, modify a setting then turn off the camera and then turn it on again you start up with exactly the same settings (i.e., the modified User Profile).

Edit: I've not yet had the chance to check whether any of that iconography has changed with the latest firmware update.

Stephen

 

Stephen, what I think I am seeing is...after FW update, I start up the camera and  select  profile #1 and the camera uses that profile.  I turn the camera off and back on again and the camera continues to use the selected profile #1.  So, the profile selection is retained.   With that in mind, I move about the menus and see no reference to profile #1 having been selected either next to the little person in the status screen or the "User Profile" section of the menus showing that profile #1 is "active".  At least I now understand that when I turn the camera off, I don't have to reselect a profile when I turn the camera back on....my prior selection is still in play.

The Status screen profile reference number next to the little person is what I miss the most.  That is my "go to" profile selection point routinely.  BTW, all of this is WITHOUT making any modification to a profile.

Am I making sense here??  Hope so!

Happy New Year everyone!!

Edited January 13, 2024 by reynoldsyoung

[reynoldsyoung]

Also, Stephen, if I select profile #1 in either the status screen or "User Profile" page, the #1 appears next to the little person on the status screen and "active" appears next to Profile #1 on the "User Profile" page.

Noting that,  when I turn the camera off and back on again, both the number  "1" and the word "Active" disappear.  The camera, however, is still functioning under the guidance of profile #1.

[Aram Langhans]

On 1/12/2024 at 12:21 PM, Pelu2010 said:

I am really wondering what the problem with the blackout is? 
why this is different to the Q2? 
I mean, I hope they didn’t think we would not notice 🤣 

I am very sensitive to this problem. 
can this be a processor issue? 
 

I hope that this gets finally solved somehow 

For me blackouts are a showstopper. 

I have not updated yet, but this blackout thing is a mystery.  I have been thinking about it lately.  My Q2 had none, as you know.  Now the Q3 has the blackout.  But the other day I was shooting with my father-in-law's Nikon D-600 and, of course, being a DSLR it has a viewfinder blackout when shooting as all DSLR's do.  Then it hit me.  I shot a Nikon D750 for years then added the Q2.  I think if I had not shot with the Q2, but rather went from the D750 straight to the Q3 I might not have noticed that the Q3 has that blackout.  It is really nothing different from a DSLR.  But having shot the Q2 for 2 years, the Q3 blackout is indeed annoying.

There is not that much difference between 48MP and 60MP and the Q3 has a lot more horsepower processor than the Q2 so I would think this should be an easy fix, or never should have happened in the first place. I guess there is a big difference in EVF resolution, so maybe that is where the programming needs to be improved.

 

[andrewphillipf]

25 minutes ago, Aram Langhans said:

I have not updated yet, but this blackout thing is a mystery.  I have been thinking about it lately.  My Q2 had none, as you know.  Now the Q3 has the blackout.  But the other day I was shooting with my father-in-law's Nikon D-600 and, of course, being a DSLR it has a viewfinder blackout when shooting as all DSLR's do.  Then it hit me.  I shot a Nikon D750 for years then added the Q2.  I think if I had not shot with the Q2, but rather went from the D750 straight to the Q3 I might not have noticed that the Q3 has that blackout.  It is really nothing different from a DSLR.  But having shot the Q2 for 2 years, the Q3 blackout is indeed annoying.

There is not that much difference between 48MP and 60MP and the Q3 has a lot more horsepower processor than the Q2 so I would think this should be an easy fix, or never should have happened in the first place. I guess there is a big difference in EVF resolution, so maybe that is where the programming needs to be improved.

 

I went from a D610 to Z8 and having zero blackout (or noise if selected that way) was a real shock to me and I don’t like it. I recently added the Q3 and I feel like I’m back to normal!

If they do fix it in the future I hope there’s an option to keep some form of it. 

Edited January 13, 2024 by andrewphillipf

[hoppyman]

10 hours ago, Manners said:

SNIP .... the touch facility options, either on or off, is it?.....

You may like to read the manual regarding how to manage preferences (I didn't at first find that intuitive, but a helpful member here answered that some time back) and how to control Touch AF option which is very easy.

[LocalHero1953]

I don’t have a Q3, just a Q2, but something similar to this profile problem happened before, either with the Q2 or the SL2-S - I don’t recall. Then I interpreted it as follows: the firmware upgrade makes a number of changes to functions that have been set in a pre-existing profile. When the profile is reloaded after updating firmware it can’t implement the profile properly because there is a mismatch between the coding/setting in the profile and the place in the firmware where the new, updated coding is and how the setting is to be ‘set’. So the old profile is not implemented properly. My solution was to load each profile in turn and then resave it. After that the profiles were loaded and displayed (with little numbers) as they should be. 

I don’t know if this would work with the Q3, and I certainly have no firmware coding knowledge to say that my empirical description of behaviour is correct, but it worked for me then, and I offer it now. 

[Miltz]

I’ve been following this thread closely and perhaps I’m the only person here who has no issue with blackout times or boot up. It feels the same as my Nikon Z system. Not sure what people are expecting. Have either of these “issues” affected anyone in a real life situation? Or is more like this camera cost $6,000 so I want it to be as fast as a Nikon Z8? Personally for me face detection is a feature that needed work. I’m looking forward to testing it out in the real world soon. 

[SrMi]

31 minutes ago, Miltz said:

I’ve been following this thread closely and perhaps I’m the only person here who has no issue with blackout times or boot up. It feels the same as my Nikon Z system. Not sure what people are expecting. Have either of these “issues” affected anyone in a real life situation? Or is more like this camera cost $6,000 so I want it to be as fast as a Nikon Z8? Personally for me face detection is a feature that needed work. I’m looking forward to testing it out in the real world soon. 

I have no issue with boot time and blackout, either.

[reynoldsyoung]

2 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said:

I don’t have a Q3, just a Q2, but something similar to this profile problem happened before, either with the Q2 or the SL2-S - I don’t recall. Then I interpreted it as follows: the firmware upgrade makes a number of changes to functions that have been set in a pre-existing profile. When the profile is reloaded after updating firmware it can’t implement the profile properly because there is a mismatch between the coding/setting in the profile and the place in the firmware where the new, updated coding is and how the setting is to be ‘set’. So the old profile is not implemented properly. My solution was to load each profile in turn and then resave it. After that the profiles were loaded and displayed (with little numbers) as they should be. 

I don’t know if this would work with the Q3, and I certainly have no firmware coding knowledge to say that my empirical description of behaviour is correct, but it worked for me then, and I offer it now. 

Thanks so much, Hero.  That could very well be a part of it.   How do you...."load each profile in turn and then resave it."?  You are dealing with someone who needs all the help he can get!  Ha!

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[Aram Langhans]

1 hour ago, Miltz said:

I’ve been following this thread closely and perhaps I’m the only person here who has no issue with blackout times or boot up. It feels the same as my Nikon Z system. Not sure what people are expecting. Have either of these “issues” affected anyone in a real life situation? Or is more like this camera cost $6,000 so I want it to be as fast as a Nikon Z8? Personally for me face detection is a feature that needed work. I’m looking forward to testing it out in the real world soon. 

I don't know what Z camera you have, but I have the Z7ii and it boots within a second every time, long off period or short off period.  Much much faster than the Q3 that has been turned off for many hours.  Of course, this may not be an annoyance to you, but it definitely is not the same.  The Z7ii is much much faster. 

Blackout time is also longer on the Q3.  Again, may or may not be an annoyance for you, but it does exist.  As I stated in a previous post, I might find it annoying only  because I had a Q2 before the Q3.  Most of what I take photos of it does not really matter, but is noticeable and at times annoying.  That said, for what the Q3 does it produces amazing photos, better than the Q2 and Nikon Z7ii, but the Z7ii is heads and tails above my what my D750 was for what i shoot and when something wider than 28 or longer than say 75 is needed, it is my go-to camera over the Q3.

[Miltz]

44 minutes ago, Aram Langhans said:

I don't know what Z camera you have, but I have the Z7ii and it boots within a second every time, long off period or short off period.  Much much faster than the Q3 that has been turned off for many hours.  Of course, this may not be an annoyance to you, but it definitely is not the same.  The Z7ii is much much faster. 

Blackout time is also longer on the Q3.  Again, may or may not be an annoyance for you, but it does exist.  As I stated in a previous post, I might find it annoying only  because I had a Q2 before the Q3.  Most of what I take photos of it does not really matter, but is noticeable and at times annoying.  That said, for what the Q3 does it produces amazing photos, better than the Q2 and Nikon Z7ii, but the Z7ii is heads and tails above my what my D750 was for what i shoot and when something wider than 28 or longer than say 75 is needed, it is my go-to camera over the Q3.

I have the original Nikon Z6. If anything the Q3 a bit faster at times. When it comes to speed, my Olympus EM1 Mark III was the fastest camera I ever used. Ironically it was the least accurate camera of the 3 when it comes to autofocus.