piblondin Posted July 11, 2023 Share #1 Posted July 11, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Can anyone recommend a good, small, lightweight, padded bag that will fit only the M with an attached 35mm or 50mm lens and also protect against rain? I've long used these, but they've been discontinued: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000KZD73W Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kwesi Posted July 11, 2023 Share #2 Posted July 11, 2023 Billingham 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted July 11, 2023 Share #3 Posted July 11, 2023 1 hour ago, piblondin said: only the M with an attached 35mm or 50mm lens Billingham 72 or Fogg Flute. The Flute is a superb bag designed for what you want. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/379517-bag-to-fit-only-m10-with-attached-lens/?do=findComment&comment=4812281'>More sharing options...
Huss Posted July 11, 2023 Share #4 Posted July 11, 2023 I cannot recommend the Fogg bags. I have three of them, and they age horribly. Colours fade unevenly, straps fade, the loose flappy leather fasteners are not secure. Plus they do not seal adequately for rain protection - rain can get in on the sides. I bought them in my early days of Leica, when branding mattered to me more than functionality. They also are very expensive given their limitations! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/379517-bag-to-fit-only-m10-with-attached-lens/?do=findComment&comment=4812367'>More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted July 11, 2023 Share #5 Posted July 11, 2023 To show we’re all different, I disagree with every aspect of the previous post! I have three Fogg bags and recommend them. Mine have aged well, have protected my cameras in heavy rain (never a drop inside), and still fasten well. I have a b major, b minor and soprano. I previously had a Flute, but found it too small for the Q2. It was fine with a M (M240 in my case) - I could use it, just, with the Apo-Summicron-M 75, but it was a bit tight. The Fogg design features I like are the minimal use of metal, the strap that is broad and goes around the whole bag avoiding connector failure, the light weight, and the integral padding (no inserts). I treat the leather with neat’s foot oil from time to time to keep it supple. I also like Billingham for similar practical design. I have an Avea for carrying a Barnack on a belt - too small for my film Ms though. I avoid full leather bags because of their weight. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graphlex Posted July 11, 2023 Share #6 Posted July 11, 2023 Bea Fogg used to recommend Fiebing’s leather conditioner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugby Posted July 11, 2023 Share #7 Posted July 11, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) I too have gone off the heaviness of leather, and now use the following nylon version of this cross body front sling found on ebay for less than $10 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/379517-bag-to-fit-only-m10-with-attached-lens/?do=findComment&comment=4812400'>More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted July 12, 2023 Share #8 Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, graphlex said: Bea Fogg used to recommend Fiebing’s leather conditioner. bee berman (small case, as she preferred). Appropriate that she would have recommended a product with ‘bees’wax. Jeff Edited July 12, 2023 by Jeff S 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted July 12, 2023 Share #9 Posted July 12, 2023 4 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said: To show we’re all different, I disagree with every aspect of the previous post! I have three Fogg bags and recommend them. Mine have aged well, have protected my cameras in heavy rain (never a drop inside), and still fasten well. I have a b major, b minor and soprano. I previously had a Flute, but found it too small for the Q2. It was fine with a M (M240 in my case) - I could use it, just, with the Apo-Summicron-M 75, but it was a bit tight. The Fogg design features I like are the minimal use of metal, the strap that is broad and goes around the whole bag avoiding connector failure, the light weight, and the integral padding (no inserts). I treat the leather with neat’s foot oil from time to time to keep it supple. I also like Billingham for similar practical design. I have an Avea for carrying a Barnack on a belt - too small for my film Ms though. I avoid full leather bags because of their weight. Same experience, both Fogg and Billingham. My all-black Fogg Lyre is over 20 years old and still going strong. It was smaller back then compared with the current model (as with certain other Fogg bags), and remains my favorite small bag for a single body/lens, with room for another lens if desired. Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted July 12, 2023 Share #10 Posted July 12, 2023 Do you mind showing pics of your Fogg bags that have been so perfect? It seems incredible that only mine which are rarely used have aged so badly…. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted July 12, 2023 Share #11 Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) Another of my Fogg bags that aged very poorly. You can also see the dye transfer to the inner lining, and can also compare the much darker original colour where it has seen less exposure. And this is a bag that has not seen rain etc This bag was $1000! If a $100 bag did this I wouldn’t be happy…. Like I said, I bought these before I knew better. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited July 12, 2023 by Huss Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/379517-bag-to-fit-only-m10-with-attached-lens/?do=findComment&comment=4812499'>More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted July 12, 2023 Share #12 Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Huss said: Do you mind showing pics of your Fogg bags that have been so perfect? It seems incredible that only mine which are rarely used have aged so badly…. Too much work. If you don't believe me from what I say, that's up to you. I'm just passing on my experience to the OP - I'm not trying to convince anyone I'm right and you're wrong. Others are posting their own experience and the OP can make a call. In the end functionality is more important than appearance. I had an Ona Brixton in leather for a while: stunning looks, but heavy, difficult to get stuff in and out, attachments that were probably not up to the weight the bag could hold. On close inspection the leather was thin laminated stuff and would probably easily tear. I was glad to sell it while it still looked good. Edited July 12, 2023 by LocalHero1953 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted July 12, 2023 Share #13 Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Huss said: Fogg bags that aged very poorly Some of course prefer the aged look. The black probably ages fastest. My Flute above is 12 years old and has not 'aged' at all, 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodrog Posted July 12, 2023 Share #14 Posted July 12, 2023 Domke F-5XB Ruggedwear shoulder and belt bag. One of the few bags that looks better with age - far better at least than the Fogg (see above). Can be refurbed easily with the included wax. Holds an M with two lenses, a notebook and pen etc. All the Domke stuff is outstanding, IMHO, and the 'ruggedwear' finish is best of all. I have a Billingham Leica Special bag as a freebie from Leica Tokyo, which is stiff and clumsy in comparison. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almizilero Posted July 12, 2023 Share #15 Posted July 12, 2023 Probably a bit to big for your purpose, but the Compagnon Nano Messenger ist a real beauty. It is rather small, but it fits an M10 with lens attached and an extra lens easily. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WvE Posted July 12, 2023 Share #16 Posted July 12, 2023 Peak Design Everyday Sling 3L. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephan54 Posted July 12, 2023 Share #17 Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) I had two Fogg bags in black which I used quite a lot: Flute and Soprano. The Flute aged fast by fading like Huss showed. The Soprano suffered from the metal knobs getting loose and falling off (I was sent a replacement set free of charge which is excellent service) and the lining tore. I still have the Flute, but I threw away the Soprano. Now I use a Wotencraft Pilot 3.5, which looks good (not as elegant as the Fogg), but is very practical. Seeing the reactions above: YMMV Edited July 12, 2023 by stephan54 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich_ Posted July 12, 2023 Share #18 Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) I have one if these and I’m really pleased with it so far. https://www.wotancraft.tw/en/product/pilot-travel-camera-sling-bag-2L-khakibrownC edit. I just noticed v similar to the recommendation above! Edited July 12, 2023 by rich_ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studienkamera Posted July 12, 2023 Share #19 Posted July 12, 2023 Billingham 72 is perfect for this purpose and provides many years of trouble-free service. My favourite camera bag. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted July 12, 2023 Share #20 Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, nodrog said: Domke F-5XB Ruggedwear shoulder and belt bag. One of the few bags that looks better with age - far better at least than the Fogg (see above). Can be refurbed easily with the included wax. Holds an M with two lenses, a notebook and pen etc. All the Domke stuff is outstanding, IMHO, and the 'ruggedwear' finish is best of all. I have a Billingham Leica Special bag as a freebie from Leica Tokyo, which is stiff and clumsy in comparison. I have the Domke F5XB in waxed canvas as well - bought around 2011. I liked it mostly, but I find the padding a bit limited: it's essentially a rectangle of padding in a u-shape that covers both long sides and the base - nothing at the ends, so it was quite easy to knock kit inside from that direction. Is that still the same padding design? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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